What's the difference between a laminated shaft and a reg Maple shaft and what's the advantage if any
laminated shaft vs reg maple shaft
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Regular maple shafts have won more world titles.
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you have to compensate less with LD laminate shafts
gpeezy
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fiberglass has done oddly well also though.
Uh well, Joey is right! A laminated shaft, could be lower deflection, could be more consistent radially, could be less likely to warp. . .
I say could be cause each of these thing will depend how the lamination is handled. In theory, regular maple, has one grain aligned and one grain crossing axis. In theory, it should makes a difference in playability how this is aligned. 2 solutions were developed. Radial lamination would make the grain consistent no matter the orientation. Also, there are doted shafts for the player to align. You could dot your own also.
Deflection. . .ask someone who cares. regular maple is fine for me.
Warp. . .well, regular maple shaft cuemakers have this issue figured out for the most part, but still, radially aligned grains have potential to improve this more.
I say could be cause each of these thing will depend how the lamination is handled. In theory, regular maple, has one grain aligned and one grain crossing axis. In theory, it should makes a difference in playability how this is aligned. 2 solutions were developed. Radial lamination would make the grain consistent no matter the orientation. Also, there are doted shafts for the player to align. You could dot your own also.
Deflection. . .ask someone who cares. regular maple is fine for me.
Warp. . .well, regular maple shaft cuemakers have this issue figured out for the most part, but still, radially aligned grains have potential to improve this more.
I shot with a Predator 314 2 for over year and half and got used to it... the use of more english is nice.. but lost all skills with masses. I talked to a very talented and local pool legend and advised me its my LD shaft is why i cant masse..he said the LD shaft is too light at the business end(tip) because it is hollow. You got to have the weight to get the cue ball to spin.. I dont know if any of this is true.. but it makes sense and I notced a HUGE difference. I switched just a month ago and the first day I could masse again, and a few situations I could tell where i wasnt compensating enough with right or left hand spin because I was used to the LD shaft, but who cares?! I got used to it and I can frikin Masse again!
So are you saying that in your game masse is more important than the confident and accurate use of English? Are you an artistic billiards player?
I mean seriously...I hit maybe 1 masse shot in like 500 regular shots...if you are depending on that skill playing 8,9,10 ball or straight pool, I'd say you are seriously off in your approach. No offense intended.
KMRUNOUT
I have no problem getting any amount of english without a LD shaft, so when I need to get what I need to, and expect out of my shaft, I Want it to be there(masse etc..).. whenever I need it even if it is 1 in 500. The amount of english exchanged between the two is barely measurable. I was giving my opinion, I would rather have complete confidence in my shaft that I learned the game with.
i never had a problem masseing with my old 314. i could never do anything real extreme but small basic stuff was pretty easy
all i can say after switching back and forth between laminated shafts and regular maple about ten times is that i'm currently playing with a regular maple shaft. However, I am thinking about going back to a laminated shaft.. And then back to a regular maple..
There are several types of laminated shafts. There are those that have the plys layed on top of each other, like ply wood. This is called a FLAT LAMINATE. Then there are others that the pieces of wood are pie shaped. Then there are several that are laminated, but the segments are not either flat or pie shaped. Being LAMINATED does not mean, that it will give you a low deflection hit. If the shaft is hollowed out & filled with something lighted than the original wood, then the figures show that it will produce less deflection of the cue ball. Most so called low deflection shafts are also thinner diameter. Which in itself making the tip end lighter & producing less deflection. For myself, I prefer a smaller diameter, solid Maple shaft with a shorter ferrule. It plays great & costs $200 less & it's made in the good ol' USA...JER
i hear you offer a LD shaft. can you tell us a little about them?
Laminated shafts resist warping, so manufacturers can use lower quality, less seasoned maple in their shafts. It doesn't change performance in any significant way - it doesn't make the shaft deflect less or deflect more consistently. It's just a cost-saving technique for manufacturers. The "advantages" of laminating are just marketing puffery to avoid admitting the real reason.
pj
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pj
chgo
That's one man's opinion
Which part do you refute?
1. Laminated shafts resist warping
2. Manufacturers can use lower quality, less seasoned maple in their shafts
3. It doesn't make the shaft deflect less
4. It doesn't make the shaft deflect more consistently
These have all been demonstrated.
Maybe you mean the conclusion that "The 'advantages' of laminating are just marketing puffery to avoid admitting the real reason." OK, draw your own conclusion.
pj
chgo
IMHO There appears to be little if any difference between the LD and regular Maple Shafts including deflection. I say play what feels right for you, I have tried them but gone back to good old Maple as it feels better to me.