Dress Code for Gold Crown Billiards, Erie, PA

I added your website to your pool hall listing at playpool.com. I look forward to stopping up and seeing it soon, it looks like a very nice room.

Ed Mercier
Playpool.com
http://playpool.com/links/list/poolhalls

I didnt know that poolhall list still existed. I assume it was dead based on the closed poolhalls on there last i looked years ago. Ill give it another try.

And Im gonna make a stop at GC first chance i get.
 
Nice post Three. So right. I don't agree with ALL the rules but at least 95 percent. It's his place and he has certain values. I rode bikes all my life but was really not what you think of as a biker. They call them one percenters for a reason. Only one percent are affiliated with true biker gangs. Kind of a shame a bunch of doctors and lawyers who play pool could not enter the establishment because of their leathers and boots which are by the way functional not some type of statement! I applaud the man for sticking to his guns. The whole bustin a sag gangster crap makes me want to puke! I wear a ball cap and that's about as wild as I get. Someone posted about the event held in Vegas ( APA BCA ) doesn't matter. They do enforce the dress code and I have seen it happen. Busted several ladies for open toed shoes!!!! Get real! But you have to have these rules or people would wear flip flops. The man said he had 500 people in his place. Hard to believe that. How many tables? How long do you wait? Never seen a pool hall that holds 500 people. Tell me he fat fingered that number!

look at the pics he posted, it is not your run of the mill pool hall, places to sit and eat a huge bar, very high class place, 500 is not hard to believe
 
Never seen a pool hall that holds 500 people. Tell me he fat fingered that number![/QUOTE]


What about Fargo Billiards? Gold Crown is huge! Could definetely hold 500 people. I'm sure they were not all shooting pool.
 
I have only addressed one side of having a dress code in this thread. Posting and enforcing a dress code is the easy part. Now comes the hard part.

A room owner must show respect to the patrons and earn the respect of their community and must give their business proper care in order for patrons to buy into the dress and conduct code. It is a lot of thought, effort, and work on the part of a room owner and staff to maintain a room to this level.

Here are just a few of the hundreds of items we attend to regularly (we have done this for decades):

clean the parking lot once a day (every last cig butt and piece of paper)
clean the front door a number of times a day
maintain spotless restrooms
clean every pool table and wipe down the rails after every use
polish all the pool balls every day
re-cloth the tables no less than once a year
on and on…

I can write a 300 page manual on this subject. We have maintenance lists for every shift and job description that must be checked and signed daily. Our restrooms are cleaner than most kitchens.
 

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Paul really knows how to get tons of replies on his threads. Wether it be break rules, break styles, or dress code.

Very nice pool room!
 
Pool Hall Link Pages

I didnt know that poolhall list still existed. I assume it was dead based on the closed poolhalls on there last i looked years ago. Ill give it another try.

And Im gonna make a stop at GC first chance i get.

Too many links are dead but we have been working hard to try and get it up to date. Most of the links are functional. If anyone knows of a pool hall website in the US or Canada that we don't have, please let us know with an email to ed at playpool dot com

I am curious is there a comparable US pool hall links page on the internet? Is there any website that has a rather complete pool hall listing like playpool.com that has fewer closed rooms than ours does? It is a huge effort to try and stay current. I would like to congratulate anyone who is doing a better job. And if they are, lets see if they still are 5 years from now. Our listings were very accurate once. Keeping them accurate is the challenge.
 
One true measure of a quality pool room

I have only addressed one side of having a dress code in this thread. Posting and enforcing a dress code is the easy part. Now comes the hard part.

A room owner must show respect to the patrons and earn the respect of their community and must give their business proper care in order for patrons to buy into the dress and conduct code. It is a lot of thought, effort, and work on the part of a room owner and staff to maintain a room to this level.

Here are just a few of the hundreds of items we attend to regularly (we have done this for decades):

clean the parking lot once a day (every last cig butt and piece of paper)
clean the front door a number of times a day
maintain spotless restrooms
clean every pool table and wipe down the rails after every use
polish all the pool balls every day
re-cloth the tables no less than once a year
on and on…

I can write a 300 page manual on this subject. We have maintenance lists for every shift and job description that must be checked and signed daily. Our restrooms are cleaner than most kitchens.

The cleanliness and quality of the bathrooms are an excellent measure of the owners dedication to their business, and let me know if it is a place worth frequenting. The last time I was in Romine's bathroom in Milwaukee it would have made a gas station bathroom look plush and clean. What a shame what can happen to a nice room after a few decades when you are more focused on selling drinks then running a quality room.
 
Paul, feel free to come to the Denver area and start up a pool room any time you like.
 
No way!

That can't be the mens room. Where's the hose bib and garden hose for wash down at closing? Where's the multiple generations of one upmanship graffitti?

Ladies room maybe.

Semi-kidding aside. Judging from the restroom pics-you run a tight ship-no wonder you have a lot of happy customers. Be they non pool playing diners or poolplayers alike.

Congratulations. Outstanding establishment. Do you do managerial consulting?

Good to see tough love can work.
 
That can't be the mens room. Where's the hose bib and garden hose for wash down at closing? Where's the multiple generations of one upmanship graffitti?

Ladies room maybe.

Semi-kidding aside. Judging from the restroom pics-you run a tight ship-no wonder you have a lot of happy customers. Be they non pool playing diners or poolplayers alike.

Congratulations. Outstanding establishment. Do you do managerial consulting?

Good to see tough love can work.

Actually, this is only one stall in one of the men's rooms (each stall has an oak door). We have three ladies rooms and two men's rooms in my facility. Here is the point. I am going to maintain a clean place and in return, I require that the patrons maintain a clean appearance and conduct themselves appropriately. It really does go both ways. We walk the walk too.
 
Well done.

Im a little disappointed about the backwards hat rule.

I have to turn mine around when im shooting, otherwise I cannot see the object ball..... =[

I still cannot believe that is a photo of the mens room.
 
I wouldn't go your place, that's just me. I wear a hat everywhere, to cover up my bald head and keep it warm. Wearing a hat forward and pool doesn't work. If as you say how you dress defines who you are. Most suit and tie guys are the scum of the earth, I'm just a commoner. All those fancy clothes turn things into too much one upmanship. Stocking cap is that what Santa claus wears? What is a wave cap? ski cap it's winter time lol. No satanic T-shirts reminds me of 6th grade school teacher when Ozzy came out. Also read something about if you had bankers come to your place, sounds pretty creepy to me.

Really, ?!? Thanks, Squinty. Me and all my scummy co-workers thank you.

Of course, all hat wearing bald guys are losers, so I guess we should just ignore you. :wink:

Maybe you should get out of the sticks a little more often.
 
The list seems excessive, but I wouldn't have a problem with it. I would be ecstatic to have a room like that nearby. Too bad Erie is freaking cold ;)
 
Note that I place standards on both sides: the patron and the room owner. I did notice the number of negative comments coming from people resisting a dress code. I also noticed that there was no resistance from the patrons on the concept of pool rooms maintaining higher standards. Everyone has to do their part so that there are decent places to play and at the same time, foster a respectable image for our game.
 
Note that I place standards on both sides: the patron and the room owner. I did notice the number of negative comments coming from people resisting a dress code. I also noticed that there was no resistance from the patrons on the concept of pool rooms maintaining higher standards. Everyone has to do their part so that there are decent places to play and at the same time, foster a respectable image for our game.

Paul:
I have really enjoyed this thread but for the record I prefer slimy, down and dirty pool halls as opposed to the Dave and Busters look.

Some of my top nasty rooms that I have visited per my recolection at the time):
  • Romines on Franklin...not High Pockets on 27th
  • Starlight in STL
  • Bogie's 1960 (before Bobby Rone took over)
  • Some place in Owenboro, KY but not Nick V's place
  • Community Center in Hollsopple, PA
  • Bank Shot Houston
  • Cue and Cushion, Houston very late in it's life
  • Some rat hole in Johnston, PA
  • Spring Branch Billiards, Houston
  • Rack and Roll, Alief, TX
 
Note that I place standards on both sides: the patron and the room owner. I did notice the number of negative comments coming from people resisting a dress code. I also noticed that there was no resistance from the patrons on the concept of pool rooms maintaining higher standards. Everyone has to do their part so that there are decent places to play and at the same time, foster a respectable image for our game.

To be fair, Paul, I expect that most of us earlier in the thread had no idea what your place looked like. Or what kind of establishment that calls itself a "pool room" would be able to get away with the rules you spoke of at the beginning of the thread.

If we had seen the photos at that point in time, I believe many of us would be like me, in that I can understand your rules in the context of the type of room that you operate. In short, I'm stunned. Your place is beautiful, and it seems more to me like a nice resturant that has pool tables, rather than a "pool room". In this context, I can understand your rules a lot better than when you started the thread.

Again, your "room" looks fabulous. Continued good luck.
 
Yeah if it were just a regular old poolroom I wouldn't have a problem dressing like a slob with my underwear sticking out and my hat on sidways with a wife beater shirt and sneakers with holes in them.

I'd never want to be the guy that brings a touch of class to a regular old poolroom. God forbid. :killingme:
 
I took a few pictures tonight. We show respect for our clientèle in many ways and they reciprocate by adhering to a dress and conduct code. This is just a good way to do business.

Nice looking place. It's a little easier to understand your dress code now, first impression was more "pool hall" like.
 
Yeah if it were just a regular old poolroom I wouldn't have a problem dressing like a slob with my underwear sticking out and my hat on sidways with a wife beater shirt and sneakers with holes in them.

I'd never want to be the guy that brings a touch of class to a regular old poolroom. God forbid. :killingme:

Not everyone that dresses in a manner that doesn't fit Pauls rules dresses the way you describe here. Not everyone has a problem with a ballcap on backwards when playing, in and of itself it isn't a major big deal in bars most places.

Not everyone is a gang-banger.

And dressed in dickies and loafers might be a bad idea in many pool rooms.

I get why Paul has his rules in place. His place is a higher class establishment, clearly. But you must agree that the image you get when you think "pool room" is not an image like what you see in Pauls photo's.

Again, the way I dress pretty much every day, I wouldn't have a problem walking into Pauls room. I get why others might not dress that way going into many places in this country.
 
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