JA asked me to post this, He wants to play Darren for $50,000

How about this 21 races to 5, seven a day for three days, first one to win 11 sets win the match.

Pressure on every game and it still concludes in three days. The people who are talking about playing for four days does not realize that trying to schedule three days betwen tournaments is tough enough, but four days would cause even more scheduling problems.

And through out the win by 2 sets angle !
 
How about this 21 races to 5, seven a day for three days, first one to win 11 sets win the match.

Pressure on every game and it still concludes in three days. The people who are talking about playing for four days does not realize that trying to schedule three days betwen tournaments is tough enough, but four days would cause even more scheduling problems.

actually this is a better format than what came up with and it would be a lot more exciting. I would prefer to see this over the long races also hopefully we can get a match going to try it out. 1 question for themarsman would you make this alternate break like the Mosconi Cup or winner break and see some packages?
 
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If you want them to really gamble?

actually this is a better format than what came up with and it would be a lot more exciting. I would prefer to see this over the long races also hopefully we can get a match going to try it out. 1 question for themarsman would you make this alternate break like the Mosconi Cup or winner break and see some packages?

Just have them toss a coin and call it. Race to 25, 4 sets ahead? You're still asking for a grind match.

Races to 7 for 5000 a set, and either party can quit after 3 sets are played, winner or loser, now that's gambling. Play winner breaks, with a neutral racker, because both players are capable of running out a set.


Thats just my opinion. I have always found it a lot more fun watching 2 guys really gamble, with the shorter sets. Like JA running out the set on Bustamante a few years back.
 
Races to 11, 3 races a day, first one to win 6 matches wins. If it goes hill/hill @ 5 matches a piece, race to 15 win by two.
 
I would like to respectfully add my views on the above post and some other points.....

As a past player who yearly enjoyed trips to the US in the early 90's to learn and enjoy
"Your" game on the big tables, play tournaments and get play money games.
I am often disappointed by the stuff you guys post..

Lets begin with the above "Quote"..
You guys trot this line out time and again..
but I personally do not see why you think race to 150 is the "Champions" game?

9 ball or 10 ball for large sums of money is "Gambling" is it not?
Why then is a player who wins by outlasting his opponent a race to 150 the better gambler?
When it is possible the match was won through better stamina rather than ability!
In a long race , it gives a player the opportunity to recover from a poor start from maybe nerves..
or a poor patch thru a little inconsistency midway for example..

BUT... in a race to say 15 or 21 there is NO SUCH CUSHION!
You must have the game, firepower and mental strength to play tough from the get go..
Recover VERY quickly if you lose a couple of early racks and NOT fold under pressure..
OR YOU LOSE!!!

That is GAMBLING!
That shows HEART
And IMO is a serious test of a players ability.

I am sure if Darren can line up his backers, he will be very happy to post $50k
and play races to 21 for $10k a set for 24hours if Johnny likes the idea.

As Darren posted after the Bartrum game, one long race to 150 is simply a grind.

Btw...
For the "I Don't think Darren can win" posters...
Think again before you post...

Unlike Karl Boyes in the other thread..
Darren "IS" a gambler and can handle the pressure for the "cash"
Also...
Darren comes from a background of English Pool..
(7ft tables, potting 2" balls into 3" pockets with tighter "Snooker" shaped openings.)

Because of the "Tight" pockets English straight pool requires no "Break Ball" to be left.
You just make all 15 balls, rack them all up and break from where the cue balls lie.
On this equipment Darren has run 466 balls!!!!

Do you really think 2 1/2" balls into US style 4" pockets are in JA's favour?
Hmmm... :rolleyes:

Not such an easy game to call!

Regardless...
I'm not trying to upset anyone...
Just my views, as I, like everyone else hope it goes ahead..

Two Top Class players and Sportsman in a great matchup... :smile:


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How about this 21 races to 5, seven a day for three days, first one to win 11 sets win the match.

Pressure on every game and it still concludes in three days. The people who are talking about playing for four days does not realize that trying to schedule three days betwen tournaments is tough enough, but four days would cause even more scheduling problems.

Keep going, soon you will be at 199 races to 1, first person to win 100 sets wins!

Ermm Wait....
 
I would like to respectfully add my views on the above post and some other points.....

As a past player who yearly enjoyed trips to the US in the early 90's to learn and enjoy
"Your" game on the big tables, play tournaments and get play money games.
I am often disappointed by the stuff you guys post..

Lets begin with the above "Quote"..
You guys trot this line out time and again..
but I personally do not see why you think race to 150 is the "Champions" game?

9 ball or 10 ball for large sums of money is "Gambling" is it not?
Why then is a player who wins by outlasting his opponent a race to 150 the better gambler?
When it is possible the match was won through better stamina rather than ability!
In a long race , it gives a player the opportunity to recover from a poor start from maybe nerves..
or a poor patch thru a little inconsistency midway for example..

BUT... in a race to say 15 or 21 there is NO SUCH CUSHION!
You must have the game, firepower and mental strength to play tough from the get go..
Recover VERY quickly if you lose a couple of early racks and NOT fold under pressure..
OR YOU LOSE!!!

That is GAMBLING!
That shows HEART
And IMO is a serious test of a players ability.

I am sure if Darren can line up his backers, he will be very happy to post $50k
and play races to 21 for $10k a set for 24hours if Johnny likes the idea.

As Darren posted after the Bartrum game, one long race to 150 is simply a grind.

Btw...
For the "I Don't think Darren can win" posters...
Think again before you post...

Unlike Karl Boyes in the other thread..
Darren "IS" a gambler and can handle the pressure for the "cash"
Also...
Darren comes from a background of English Pool..
(7ft tables, potting 2" balls into 3" pockets with tighter "Snooker" shaped openings.)

Because of the "Tight" pockets English straight pool requires no "Break Ball" to be left.
You just make all 15 balls, rack them all up and break from where the cue balls lie.
On this equipment Darren has run 466 balls!!!!

Do you really think 2 1/2" balls into US style 4" pockets are in JA's favour?
Hmmm... :rolleyes:

Not such an easy game to call!

Regardless...
I'm not trying to upset anyone...
Just my views, as I, like everyone else hope it goes ahead..

Two Top Class players and Sportsman in a great matchup... :smile:

Way too logical and thoughtful for this thread.
 
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