Derby City Favortism...
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Forgive me if someone has already said this but what would have happened if the roles were reversed? What if JA came to the tournament desk at 11:05 and asked where his opponent was?
Forgive me if someone has already said this but what would have happened if the roles were reversed? What if JA came to the tournament desk at 11:05 and asked where his opponent was?
This OPINION has nothing to do with the rules and everything to do with the fact that he wouldn't have been mad if he would have won. He thought he dodged a bullet and didn't have to play JA.
I'm not the one who didn't forfeit Archer, I had nothing to do with it, if I did, I may have forfeited him. But that doesnt change the fact that his thread was started because the OP lost and is bitter. Rightfully so, but it doesn't change the fact.
When you are driving 15mph over the speed limit and you see a cop up the road, do you slow down? I would image you don't since you have so much integrity and its only 'right in life' that you get a ticket. But I'm sure you have never broke the rules like that.
So what? What does this have to do with what happened? It is totally irrelevant. If I didn't have heart issues I wouldn't be seeing a heart specialist. Again, so what. Is it that you are a "great pool player" suck up or do you actually think you found something deep? JA was given special consideration because of who he was, plain and simple. It violated the rules that the TOURNAMENT COMMITTEE established. The guy got screwed. Period.
Bob
Why enter a tournament like DCC if you want to win by forfeit? You gonna tell your grandkids how you got 7/8th at DCC nineball one year and that you forfeited out one of the greatest all time to get there because he was 20 minutes late? This reminds me of all the handicapped tournaments where a kid doesn't want to win because his handicap will go up and he never gets better. I just don't get why some of you even play pool.
Flip that around. Do you think the OP would get a break from JA if he were that late? Would JA want to win the whole thing, even knowing he had forfieted someone for "just being late"?
I don't think any of this is relevant to the OP's question, which is, "Do you think favoritism is the reason JA was not forfeited, as he would have been if the rules were strictly enforced?"
I agree. Why did you go to the derby? To play top players or try to win you entry fee back?
Is it a big deal for JA to beat a nobody in a tournament? He's won hundreds of big tournaments and this is his livelihood. He's trying to make a living. Amateur players should try to get to his level and you're never going to do it unless you play better players.
I can't understand how any of you could feel good about forfeiting JA or any other top tier player that's trying to make a living for being a little late. I'd wait until it was obvious he wasn't going to show up for the chance to beat one of the best all-time. It's sad that players just don't care about getting better these days, they'd rather win a few bucks by any means neccessary.
You couldn't even brag to your friends about finishing well in the DCC because they'd all know about the asterisk next to your name and how you got there. There's no feeling of accomplishment.
Would it be easier if I sent you a list of all the threads Im going to post in so chasing me around is easier?
How do you determine which rules are to be followed and which are OK to break?
Please tell me what you think JA would do if he/ you were hill-hill and you fouled the cueball on the final 9. By your 'feel good' opinion, you should still get to shoot, right? Wouldn't make Johnny better to take BIH, right?
To quote dld, " You, sir, are absolutely wrong".
First of all, I expected every APA 2 to start twisting around what I was getting at in my original post...
Second, I am far from an amateur and can win the Derby if things go my way.
Third, I have no problem playing against anyone and have no personal vendetta against anyone, but just how long would YOU sit there and wait for an opponent to show up?? I only expected to be treated like anyone else.
Fourth, if I had won the match and JA had not been forfeited, I just as well may post the same thing on AZ.
Its not about the win or loss at all.... its about respect for all players equally.
Rules are for everyone not just some of the field. JA should have forfeited.
And this is the crux of the matter. When you start giving the legends room to not follow one rule, why have the rule at all? How do you pick and choose which rules apply, and to whom they apply?
Yeah, I'm just a lowly league player, so I'm a nit. I'm not here saying I'd be watching the clock tick off the seconds, seeing him race across the room or anything. But when the player is obviously not there, and he has been put "on the clock" under the same rules that EVERBODY ELSE has to follow, what is a player supposed to do? Oh yeah, whatever the "legend" wants, after all, he"s there to make a living. The lesser players money doesn't matter to them...
You got to be kidding me. I'm sure your friend is an inspiration. But you need to chill. There was no intent to insult your friend. You seriously think that MOST APA 2's have an in depth knowledge of how pool should be played and what goes on at an open event? I think not.
Bob
I am pretty sure
Pretty sure he ain't trying to put anyone down, on their playing ability. He is just using the APA 2 term, as a guide for people to understand, he is NOT a lower level player when it comes to skills. I have a lady right here in town, who had a stroke at age 31. A year and a half later, she is playing almost as well with 1 hand as she did with 2. Absolutely incredible amount of heart.
But his point is, if a roll or 2 goes his way, he is capable of winning the tourney too. He's a very competitive player, with high level skills, and maybe he's planning to be a touring Pro should a decent tour evolve. I believe the whole point is, he DID NOT go to just play for fun. He went with the intention of winning the tourney. He has a right to be treated fairly too. And this was not an example of fairness.
Pretty sure he ain't trying to put anyone down, on their playing ability. He is just using the APA 2 term, as a guide for people to understand, he is NOT a lower level player when it comes to skills. I have a lady right here in town, who had a stroke at age 31. A year and a half later, she is playing almost as well with 1 hand as she did with 2. Absolutely incredible amount of heart.
But his point is, if a roll or 2 goes his way, he is capable of winning the tourney too. He's a very competitive player, with high level skills, and maybe he's planning to be a touring Pro should a decent tour evolve. I believe the whole point is, he DID NOT go to just play for fun. He went with the intention of winning the tourney. He has a right to be treated fairly too. And this was not an example of fairness.