Custom cue observation

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measureman

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First off I am going to talk about hit and feel only.
For the last six months or so I have had the opportunity to hit balls with a lot of custom cues from many makers.
And so far I have not played with one that hit better enough then my Pechauer to upgrade to a custom.
This is not to say that some day I will not get one but I see no reason to spend the money simply for an upgrade in hit and feel where I see no difference that amounts to anything.
 
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I think I have to agree. I hit a Pechauer the other night and it felt great. I am no expert, but there are a few production companies that play as good as a custom, and the only reason to have the custom is because it is your own cue. Made for you and you are the only one that has it, which means alot. BTW, which model Pechauer do you have?
 
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I am a fan of pechauers from the 90's.Todays Pechauers hit like a wet noodle ....try hitting a scruggs with a ivory joint and radial pin let me know what you think ...for the most part jacoby's are a notch of above pechauer in that genre of cues ...but thats my opinion .......someone can finish opinions are like ___lol
 
i have played with custom cues that suck and production cues that play great. One thing that applies to all cues is the older they get the sweeter they play.
 
I have a p03 and it is not completely stock.
It has an ivory ferule and a layered tip so it probably hits a bit different then one straight from the maker. Should have said that in my original post.
Also I said "hit better enough to upgrade"
Some did hit better but not enough to spend the money required to upgrade. I hope this is clear now.
 
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I think the reason why you find nothing better than you current cue is because of your current cue! LoL!

You know that cue like the back of your hand. It's like an old friend whenever you pick it up to play. you feel confident with that cue. Until something comes along to really knock your socks off...it's gonna be a tough sell to get you into anything else.

I have seen some people play some pretty sporty pool with a total POS cue. But to them, it's 'their' cue, so they are going to play well with it.

Eric is right, the more a cue is played, the better it plays. Just the act of stroking a ball resonates a cue, therefore 'opening' up the woods...allowing the cue to 'talk' to you even better. Even a newer cue, with quality woods, is going to play better as long as it is getting played all the time. Not much different than how acoustic guitars 'age'.

Lisa
 
ridewiththewind said:
I think the reason why you find nothing better than you current cue is because of your current cue! LoL!

You know that cue like the back of your hand. It's like an old friend whenever you pick it up to play. you feel confident with that cue. Until something comes along to really knock your socks off...it's gonna be a tough sell to get you into anything else.

I have seen some people play some pretty sporty pool with a total POS cue. But to them, it's 'their' cue, so they are going to play well with it.

Eric is right, the more a cue is played, the better it plays. Just the act of stroking a ball resonates a cue, therefore 'opening' up the woods...allowing the cue to 'talk' to you even better. Even a newer cue, with quality woods, is going to play better as long as it is getting played all the time. Not much different than how acoustic guitars 'age'.

Lisa
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You have a good point there about it being "my" cue.
I also have a Lucasi which on it's own hits well but not up to the Pechauer so I do have a reference point. Also this cue was in Fatboys collection for about 6 years and maybe the wood has "aged" a bit.
 
I did hit a Scruggs for a few games a couple weeks ago and it felt great...... really great (wish I could afford one), when I was done the guy put it up and pulled out a new Predator P3 golden oak and played with it. He said that was his favorite cue.
 
measureman said:
. . .where I see no difference that amounts to anything.
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Amen, brother.

It is an immutable law of AZ Billiards that a certain phrase must appear in any thread like this. It has yet to be posted, so I'll step to the plate:

"It's not the arrow, it's the Indian"​

Truth be told, there are damn few cues on the market (including the lower end such as Players, Fury, etc.) that won't get the job done. Buy what you like, get accustomed to the feel, and don't obsess over what you don't have / can't afford.
 
ChazL said:
Amen, brother.

It is an immutable law of AZ Billiards that a certain phrase must appear in any thread like this. It has yet to be posted, so I'll step to the plate:

"It's not the arrow, it's the Indian"​

Truth be told, there are damn few cues on the market (including the lower end such as Players, Fury, etc.) that won't get the job done. Buy what you like, get accustomed to the feel, and don't obsess over what you don't have / can't afford.
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So much truth in what you say. But, If you've got it and you want it, then spend the cash and flaunt it. :)
 
Measureman, don't force the issue. If you've got a cue that you love to play with and play well with, then leave it alone. I've got some customs and they sit on the wall while I play with a Predator. I actually think a few of the cues that sit on my wall, including a Pechauer, feel and hit better than the Predator I play with, but I "know" the Predator.
 
measureman said:
First off I am going to talk about hit and feel only.
For the last six months or so I have had the opportunity to hit balls with a lot of custom cues from many makers.
And so far I have not played with one that hit better enough then my Pechauer to upgrade to a custom.
This is not to say that some day I will not get one but I see no reason to spend the money simply for an upgrade in hit and feel where I see no difference that amounts to anything.
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I have been saying this for years, the hit of any cue is subjective to the person holding the cue, it doesn't matter if it is a Kmart special, production cue, or a custom. When you find a cue that feels good to you, it is not necessary to look any further, and never make the mistake of selling that cue because you may never find another like it.

Each of us has their likes and dislikes and some (Very Rarely) have no clue what is even good or bad for them, but in the end how a cue feels will effect to some degree how you will play. This is because with time you will learn to trust you equipment and when you acheive this you can focus on the person holding the tool, in place of being concerned about issues that are only a small part of your game anyway.

JIMO
 
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Measureman, you're a faster learner than I am. Many of the custom cues Ted doesn't own I do (or did) especially Rundes. In my collection I have many and they do not all play well regardless of the maker or price. Even the cues from the same maker have a wide variation. This sample includes Richard Black, Rundes, Scruggs, Phillippi, AE, Davis blanks, SW, etc. In fact the best cue I ever used was a Mezz I got off the rack in a poolhall in Japan. When it comes to making balls it's a simple matter of what works. That being said, there are other reasons to own a custom cue just as there are reasons to own nice cars, nice clotes, shoes, golf clubs, or other things you truely can afford and appreciate. (bourbon comes to mind) The cue I play with was built by Kenny Murrell and it plays great. However, the best part is that it was designed jointly between the two of us. Every time I take it out of the case I enjoy the experience of having it made, it's simple elegence, craftsmanship, and and the way it plays. I play as well with a Schon ball for ball, but I really enjoy the Murrell none the less so that's waht I use. You don't need a Rolex to know what time it is but they sure sell a lot of Rolexes. (Damn, wish I had one!)

barryc
 
"You can make the drive to Wal-Mart in a '76 Nova, or make the same trip in a brand new BMW. Both rides will get you from point A to point B. But in the BMW you're most likely gonna look better, and as a result it might be a little more fun."
dave
 
Tokyo-dave said:
"You can make the drive to Wal-Mart in a '76 Nova, or make the same trip in a brand new BMW. Both rides will get you from point A to point B. But in the BMW you're most likely gonna look better, and as a result it might be a little more fun."
dave
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So my Pechauer is a '76 Nova and your Sugartree is a brand new BMW? :grin:
We need an intervention here by Ted.
(Please note that Tokyo Dave and I are friends.I think.)
 
measureman said:
First off I am going to talk about hit and feel only.
For the last six months or so I have had the opportunity to hit balls with a lot of custom cues from many makers.
And so far I have not played with one that hit better enough then my Pechauer to upgrade to a custom.
This is not to say that some day I will not get one but I see no reason to spend the money simply for an upgrade in hit and feel where I see no difference that amounts to anything.
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In a similar vein, MY daughter is the prettiest girl I know.

Dale<who claims at least second place in the meaningless statement competition>
 
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