Si Meng Chen

i4pool said:
Jay- Thanks for the report. Sounds like no doubt we'll be hearing more about this young lady. Any vids on youtube? I haven't checked yet.

Hope to catch up with you soon.

Take care,
Abe - i4pool
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Look for the 2011 Philippine Open. Her final match with Kelly Fisher should show up there soon, if not already. She missed the nine ball in the side in the first game, and I wondered if she would be nervous on TV. That's the only ball she misses! One beautiful run out after another, with a few excellent safties thrown in.
 
jay helfert said:
Look for the 2011 Philippine Open. Her final match with Kelly Fisher should show up there soon, if not already. She missed the nine ball in the side in the first game, and I wondered if she would be nervous on TV. That's the only ball she misses! One beautiful run out after another, with a few excellent safties thrown in.
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Great write-up Jay. I had to see what the hype was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQiwwIwi3M&fmt=18
 
Is China the answer???

If China is providing Govt. backing and training for these players, perhaps it is just a matter of time before the Olympic commitee receives a petition to adopt pool as a santioned olympic sport. Especially if China feels their players would dominate.
 
Well according to the Raya article she has been playing since age of eight. Nine years of experience with who knows how many years of world class instruction coupled with the Chinese discipline. Result = world class player.
 
KoolKiller said:
not trying to be a spelling police but her name is actually Si Ming Chen. "Meng" is totally a different character in Chinese:wink:
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If the family name is Chen (which I would guess it is) then a Chinese person would say that their name is Chen Si Meng. Westerners turn this around so the given name is first as in the West which I don't think they should do.

Chen, obviously, is a very common family name in China but when the family name is less common you can't guess whether the person who wrote it is putting the family name last or first and you have no idea what their real name is.
 
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Si Meng is a product of the fabled government sponsored training. When she won in Shanghai over Allison in the finals the minister of sport in that area made a point of telling everyone that the Ministry's investment in pool training had paid off. Not all Chinese players enjoy government sponsored training camps.

Wu Jing who got in the top six plays in Xiamen and as far as we know trains in the club she is house pro in.

Liu Sha Sha who got in the top four in this event put a six pack on Karen Corr in the 2010 World 9 ball Championships when she was down 5:1 against Corr.

The discipline that the Chinese show, men and women is at a very very very high level. rarely do you see serious players with floppy strokes and lazy attitudes. This country is benefiting from being at a crossroads for pool and snooker with world class players in both disciplines for the youth to look up to. They have the influence of the Taiwanese for pool and of the British for Snooker.

If there were a women's tour worth dominating then the Chinese are forming their own great wall of talent to dominate it. They don't see pool as a sport that has to be dominated by men and the women here work very hard to insure that they have every skill on the table that any man has. The aforementioned Wu Jing regularly wins citywide events here in Xiamen against very tough male competition. In a recent countrywide event she took 4th place, only losing to Fong Pang Chao.

Also in China for some reason it seems as if the sponsors are more keen to support the women's game. That could be some social thing or sexist thing but right now a lot of money is flowing into the women's game in China.
As one who has recently been threatened on and off this forum by John Barton with being punched in the face, kicked in the nutz and being confronted at my home several times I take it rather personal that's he's allowed to overtly laugh at the banning process by using his wife's login.
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Hey.... Leave that woman alone..

Your issue is with John...not his wife. Are you NOT MAN ENOUGH to solve your problem with a man and decide to "sharking a woman".
Shame on you:angry:

Anyway.. it's a very good review thread from Jay Helfert...
 
sengkun108 said:
Hey.... Leave that woman alone..

Your issue is with John...not his wife. Are you NOT MAN ENOUGH to solve your problem with a man and decide to "sharking a woman".
Shame on you:angry:

Anyway.. it's a very good review thread from Jay Helfert...
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Thank you Dedy. We appreciate your support and perspective. We understand that all people have their own motivations that drive them and we understand that many people have limitations which make it difficult for them to participate in a discussion without spoiling it.

We look forward to more cooperation with you.

As to the proper address for this young lady it is 陈思明 or Chen Si Ming.

First name Si Ming, last name Chen. Formal way to write it is last name first.

Affectionately known as "Killer" on tour. :-) (just kidding)
 
danquixote said:
If China is providing Govt. backing and training for these players, perhaps it is just a matter of time before the Olympic commitee receives a petition to adopt pool as a santioned olympic sport. Especially if China feels their players would dominate.
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That's our best hope. It's how table tennis got in.
 
She sure can cut balls gets angles and not hook herself...not so Kelly. She has her break down. she gets CB under control off the rails.:thumbup:
 
She seems like she's taking a walk in the park in the final. Like Jay said, nobody has to like playing her...NOBODY. Johnnyt
 
We just watched the match and think that Si Ming got a lot of fortunate rolls. She did play some fantastic shots and was steady and calm. But Kelly missed 2 shots and hooked herself once which amounted to 3 games out of nine. Only once did Si Ming play a deliberate safety which converted to a win when Kelly failed to hit the object ball on the kick shot.

The rest of the games were decided on Si Ming getting the better rolls. This match could have easily gone the other way due to the rolls. Kelly got outplayed in the sense that Si Ming made fewer mistakes and she came with great shots at key points. But Kelly gave away 1/3 of the match with unforced errors that were uncharacteristic.

Still we do agree that Si Ming has proved herself as a valid force. We think we remember seeing her in a Fury Cues sponsored tournament four years ago in Xiamen when she was 13.
 
sengkun108 said:
Hey.... Leave that woman alone..

Your issue is with John...not his wife. Are you NOT MAN ENOUGH to solve your problem with a man and decide to "sharking a woman".
Shame on you:angry:

Anyway.. it's a very good review thread from Jay Helfert...
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Do you actually believe in your heart that the person typing all this information is Karen? Why does Karen start posting only when John is asked to take a break by the forum moderators?

Personally I could care less. It is just a mockery of this forum. The same rules should apply to all members.

I have purchased a few cases from JB Cases and it was difficult at best to watch John arguing online and missing promised delivery dates. Unfortunately I put John on another level in my head as a case maker. Meaning, I assumed he was as passionate as making customers happy by his commitment to them. I was wrong because he was truly addicted to AZ. The feeling I got with my dealings with John was that he would rather argue about some aiming system than follow through on his word to paying customers.

Either way, I do not plan on buying another case from John because I can't rely on his hollow promises.



Just my opinion,
Chris


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Karen Barton said:
We just watched the match and think that Si Ming got a lot of fortunate rolls. She did play some fantastic shots and was steady and calm. But Kelly missed 2 shots and hooked herself once which amounted to 3 games out of nine. Only once did Si Ming play a deliberate safety which converted to a win when Kelly failed to hit the object ball on the kick shot.

The rest of the games were decided on Si Ming getting the better rolls. This match could have easily gone the other way due to the rolls. Kelly got outplayed in the sense that Si Ming made fewer mistakes and she came with great shots at key points. But Kelly gave away 1/3 of the match with unforced errors that were uncharacteristic.

Still we do agree that Si Ming has proved herself as a valid force. We think we remember seeing her in a Fury Cues sponsored tournament four years ago in Xiamen when she was 13.
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This is not the match I saw. Chen out played Kelly not letting her to the table. Kelly felt the pressure. Just sour grapes on your part. Johnnyt
 
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