poolcuenews.com What's this dudes deal?

[JB Cases]

Mike is a very intelligent and capable guy. From what I've seen and heard, he's also extremely nice person face to face.

The catch is what he says when he's not accountable. So in this case, giving a public apology is nice, but it just doesn't hold much weight with me.

At the same time, I'm not really all that concerned. He's an anonymous bully...not a horrible person. It's not like any of this really mattered to begin with.

It matters. If it didn't then no one would have given the PCN blog a moment's worth of "ink".

This all comes back to something I have said all along.

WORDS ****ING HURT.

You can beat me up physically and the wounds will heal and more than likely I will be fine at some point. But continuing to beat someone up psychologically remains forever and is much harder to forget or forgive.

People like to spew pure crap sometimes with no other intention than to hurt another person as much as possible. They don't care about facts or the real story. They just say whatever they want knowing that at least half the readers will believe it at face value.

That's the problem with anonymous accusations and even with accusations from people whose names are known. It forces the accused to go on the defensive. We all SAY that we should just ignore trolls but all of us know that when we are the target of a troll then it's just not that easy to ignore them.

Sticks and Stones is so out of date. In a world where we interact using mostly words, words are the weapons of choice. And they hurt when used abusively.

 

[Hungarian]

ABall Red Repped me for my post below...

Too wordy, sorry can't invest the time to read

Good luck being understood

ABall, it's on. This is a Chat Room .... not a Novel Room. My chat was quick and to the point. If I want to read a book I will. If I want to chat that the post was too long I can. You are a jerk for red repping me.

Chat Board, Please tell me what you think.:
1.) Do I really deserve red rep for saying that the post was too wordy?
2.) Does anyone else think that the post was too wordy?
3.) Should I red rep ABall or be a better person?
4.) Should I just forgive and forget?

 

[Hungarian]

I don't like this thread anymore....thanks Cleary...LOL

 

[miah g.]

I got to the part about him basically being a hired pen. I stopped reading after that. I couldnt imagine being a blogger and blogging about stuff for other people. Plus I've known Justin for many years and know what a good guy he is.

Bald miah g.

p.s. Im not really bald but i do use a rusty spoon to shave with.
I could grow my hair out but then i'd look like Fryar Tuck.

 

[MahnaMahna]

ABall, it's on. This is a Chat Room .... not a Novel Room. My chat was quick and to the point. If I want to read a book I will. If I want to chat that the post was too long I can. You are a jerk for red repping me.

Chat Board, Please tell me what you think.:
1.) Do I really deserve red rep for saying that the post was too wordy?
2.) Does anyone else think that the post was too wordy?
3.) Should I red rep ABall or be a better person?
4.) Should I just forgive and forget?

1.) Who cares?
2.) Who cares?
3.) God, really? Who cares?
4.) Just forget it, no one really cares. It's freaking rep. Get over it.

ABall, you big meanie.

 

[Melissa Herndon]

Seems so. To sum it up:

- I said Mike Fieman was the mastermind behind poolcuenews.com
- poolcuenews.com & facebook taken down
- His friends stood up for him and said they don't think it is.
- I stood my ground, the evidence was too much.
- He came out and admitted it was him and that he's sorry he took it too far.


Hopefully it puts a rest to the anonymous bad mouthing of my friends.

Well...color me surprised at the outcome here.

That being said...Mike is still my friend and a good guy in my book. He has apologized for letting his words get out of hand. The bickering between him and the "clique" as he has called it...well, that is between them as far as I am concerned. There has been name-calling on both sides...so it's even in my book now that everyone knows who everyone is.

Again...I reiterate that it is too bad we all just can't get along...LOL.

Melissa

 

[cleary]

Well...color me surprised at the outcome here.

Lot of surprise in this joint.

 

[derekdisco]

ABall, it's on. This is a Chat Room .... not a Novel Room. My chat was quick and to the point. If I want to read a book I will. If I want to chat that the post was too long I can. You are a jerk for red repping me.

Chat Board, Please tell me what you think.:
1.) Do I really deserve red rep for saying that the post was too wordy?
2.) Does anyone else think that the post was too wordy?
3.) Should I red rep ABall or be a better person?
4.) Should I just forgive and forget?

 

[UrackmIcrackm]

Chat Board, Please tell me what you think.

Since you asked... I think you shouldn't post (multiple times no less) in a thread if you are not willing to read what is posted in the thread. If you're uninformed as to what is said then you can and do make uneducated posts in said thread. I also think that I find you to be kind of annoying.

 

[justadub]

Too wordy, sorry can't invest the time to read

Good luck being understood

Since you asked... these are the actual words you used.

The very first lines he wrote warned you that it would be long.

It was a complicated issue, and a lot of things had to be addressed. He used many paragraph breaks, which makes reading easier. His writing was quite easy to read, at least to me.

If you can't invest the time to read a few paragraphs, probably forums aren't the best use of your time. That's likely why you are getting the response that you have received.

 

[nathandumoulin]

Well...color me surprised at the outcome here.

That being said...Mike is still my friend and a good guy in my book. He has apologized for letting his words get out of hand. The bickering between him and the "clique" as he has called it...well, that is between them as far as I am concerned. There has been name-calling on both sides...so it's even in my book now that everyone knows who everyone is.

Again...I reiterate that it is too bad we all just can't get along...LOL.

Melissa

Rational thinking went out the window during this post.

Try to think of it this way:

A guy in a mask randomly runs up and punches you in the face. How do you respond to the gesture? According to you, you're no longer the victim as soon as you confront him for the hateful action.

Mike is your friend, which seems to be making this hard for you to see the issue from an objective perspective. I mean, even Mike has apologized. You're the only one remaining who doesn't acknowledge that anonymously writing spiteful words is in poor character.

 

[Cutthroat]

The catch is what he says when he's not accountable. So in this case, giving a public apology is nice, but it just doesn't hold much weight with me.

At the same time, I'm not really all that concerned. He's an anonymous bully...not a horrible person. It's not like any of this really mattered to begin with.

I am afraid the catch is that you think he should be "accountable" only when you disagree with his opinion.

Reading this thread, all I have really seen from those who have had a problem with the blog in question are racial and sexist insults, false suggestions to corporate behavior and unsubtle threats of employment repercussions to the blogger.

I think this blogger has been subjected to a smear campaign, if not by design, then by the instinctive reaction of a bunch of real bullies.

 

[Melissa Herndon]

Rational thinking went out the window during this post.

Try to think of it this way:

A guy in a mask randomly runs up and punches you in the face. How do you respond to the gesture? According to you, you're no longer the victim as soon as you confront him for the hateful action.

Mike is your friend, which seems to be making this hard for you to take see the issue fron an objective perspective. I mean, even Mike has apologized. You're the only one remaining who doesn't acknowledge that anonymously writing spiteful words is in poor character.

If a guy in a mask runs up and punches me in the face...his action is no less repugnant simply because he is wearing a mask. A little scarier...maybe...but no less repugnant.

Are you more angry that he wrote spiteful words that harmed your friends...or that he did it anonymously?

And are you now targeting me as your enemy now that Mike has come clean? I have a right to speak my mind...just as you do. Yet I didn't insult you.

I never said how I felt about his actions. And I have nothing to apologize for Nathan. What I said was...now that everyone knows who they are dealing with...the fighting is between them. What Justin has said to Mike, what Mike has said to Justin, what Mike has said to Sarah/Cleary/you...those are battles that maybe you can now sort out amongst yourselves now that you know who to call. That's all I am saying.

As for my feelings about his actions...I have let him know where I stand. I maintain that people make mistakes, get carried away sometimes...and they always get a second chance in my book.

Melissa

 

[tank69]

1.) Who cares?
2.) Who cares?
3.) God, really? Who cares?
4.) Just forget it, no one really cares. It's freaking rep. Get over it.

ABall, you big meanie.

By far, the most meaningful post in this entire thread!

Someone talked about my friends...get over it!

Words hurt....Because you choose to let them.

I can't believe how many whiny babies are inhabiting this site. Shouldn't you be playing pool?

I can't believe I took the time to read, yet another, internet war. Shame on me!

 

[akaTrigger]

ABall, it's on. This is a Chat Room .... not a Novel Room. My chat was quick and to the point. If I want to read a book I will. If I want to chat that the post was too long I can. You are a jerk for red repping me.

Chat Board, Please tell me what you think.:
1.) Do I really deserve red rep for saying that the post was too wordy?
2.) Does anyone else think that the post was too wordy?
3.) Should I red rep ABall or be a better person?
4.) Should I just forgive and forget?

While red rep doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, you shouldn't have been red repped for speaking your opinion when it didn't even hurt anyone!

I'm surprised anyone would red rep you for that comment. WOW!

 

[nathandumoulin]

Are you more angry that he wrote spiteful words that harmed your friends...or that he did it anonymously?

And are you now targeting me as your enemy now that Mike has come clean? I have a right to speak my mind...just as you do. Yet I didn't insult you.

I never said how I felt about his actions. And I have nothing to apologize for Nathan. What I said was...now that everyone knows who they are dealing with...the fighting is between them.

I'm not angry at all actually. Although I feel that Mike should be accountable for his words, I really don't feel that what he did was that big of a deal. In poor taste, yes, but nothing overly serious either way.

As for you apologizing....for what? To my knowledge, no one ever requested one.

Lastly, my intent wasn't to insult you. If I did then I apologize. I'm merely baffled at how you've defensively shifted the blame to those that Mike slandered, arguing that both parties are somehow even now, simply because they confronted him. Last time I checked, requesting accountability is not on par with slander.

Even if it were, Florian, Sarah, Justin, and countless others that Mike picked on haven't even posted in the thread or said a single word about him. You've lumped everyone together, laid judgement without cause, and then dismissed everyone as 'even'.

 

[Bigtruck]

Mike is a very intelligent and capable guy. From what I've seen and heard, he's also extremely nice person face to face.

The catch is what he says when he's not accountable. So in this case, giving a public apology is nice, but it just doesn't hold much weight with me.

At the same time, I'm not really all that concerned. He's an anonymous bully...not a horrible person. It's not like any of this really mattered to begin with.

I wonder how many of these there are around these parts??? I'm guessing lots.

 

[Bigtruck]

ABall, it's on. This is a Chat Room .... not a Novel Room. My chat was quick and to the point. If I want to read a book I will. If I want to chat that the post was too long I can. You are a jerk for red repping me.

Chat Board, Please tell me what you think.:
1.) Do I really deserve red rep for saying that the post was too wordy?
2.) Does anyone else think that the post was too wordy?
3.) Should I red rep ABall or be a better person?
4.) Should I just forgive and forget?

Sorry, I only made it to Chat Room....

Ray
(waiting for the movie)


ps. I'll send you a little green to make you feel better

 

[maldito]

i am afraid the catch is that you think he should be "accountable" only when you disagree with his opinion.

Reading this thread, all i have really seen from those who have had a problem with the blog in question are racial and sexist insults, false suggestions to corporate behavior and unsubtle threats of employment repercussions to the blogger.

I think this blogger has been subjected to a smear campaign, if not by design, then by the instinctive reaction of a bunch of real bullies.

tap tap !!

 

[Melissa Herndon]

I'm not angry at all actually. Although I feel that Mike should be accountable for his words, I really don't feel that what he did was that big of a deal. In poor taste, yes, but nothing overly serious either way.

As for you apologizing....for what? To my knowledge, no one ever requested one.

Lastly, my intent wasn't to insult you. If I did then I apologize. I'm merely baffled at how you've defensively shifted the blame to those that Mike slandered, arguing that both parties are somehow even now, simply because they confronted him. Last time I checked, requesting accountability is not on par with slander.

Even if it were, Florian, Sarah, Justin, and countless others that Mike picked on haven't even posted in the thread or said a single word about him. You've lumped everyone together, laid judgement without cause, and then dismissed everyone as 'even'.

I never shifted blame to anyone...and I don't see where you get that. Did I say that anyone deserved the words written about them? No. What I said was...words have been exchanged on both sides. If you don't think that is true...then I will need to do some searching here on AZB to find some of the posts where PCN guy went back and forth with Justin. It happened many times.

My point was...the way I have read it...the main problem everyone had with PCN guy was the anonymity. If he'd been upfront with who he was and then insulting to people...there wouldn't have been such huge drama. The parties involved would've argued, exchanged insults...and then been done with it.

I never said you asked for an apology...but your post makes it pretty clear that you think I'm in the wrong.

As for me "lumping everyone together"...I guess I just didn't take the time to create a list of names. Laid judgment? Who on? I have judged no one here. Perhaps when I said "even"...I should have been clearer. What I mean is...everyone is on even footing now that all is revealed. There has been transgressions on both sides...at least in the argument with Justin. Although I have to say...Justin gave up his end of the feud awhile back..refusing to engage....which is admirable. But in the end...hurtful words were exchanged...and when I say it's even...I mean that both sides are now aware of who was actually hurling those insults.

Anyhow, Nathan...it feels like you don't like me...or you need someone else to argue with. I wish you all the best of luck in your future endeavors. I think I'm pretty much done defending myself for defending my friend and not jumping on the bandwagon.

Melissa