Do you know which eye is dominant? READ!!!

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8onthebreak

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Not knowing which eye is dominant can lead to "bad days" with no explanation. 3 years ago, after a couple decades of playing pool I attended gun safety with my teenage son where I discovered that I was "left eye" dominant. (I play pool right handed!!!). My entire life I've done everything rt handed, write,throw,...anything that's 1 handed...but played hockey, batted, golfed left handed!!!

In the next couple weeks, I realized that when I was "off" on my cuts, I moved my face over so that my left eye is directly over the cue, which leads to an immediate correction on accuracy...every time.

I don't believe in bad days. I believe that something causes them. We do something a little different that causes it, and when you find that certain thing, it's a blessing!!!

Has anyone out there ever discovered anything about their game like this?

Are there any left handed or ambidextrous players out there who play pool right handed?
 
8onthebreak said:
Not knowing which eye is dominant can lead to "bad days" with no explanation. 3 years ago, after a couple decades of playing pool I attended gun safety with my teenage son where I discovered that I was "left eye" dominant. (I play pool right handed!!!). My entire life I've done everything rt handed, write,throw,...anything that's 1 handed...but played hockey, batted, golfed left handed!!!

In the next couple weeks, I realized that when I was "off" on my cuts, I moved my face over so that my left eye is directly over the cue, which leads to an immediate correction on accuracy...every time.

I don't believe in bad days. I believe that something causes them. We do something a little different that causes it, and when you find that certain thing, it's a blessing!!!

Has anyone out there ever discovered anything about their game like this?

Are there any left handed or ambidextrous players out there who play pool right handed?
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I'm a lefty that plays right handed.
Pretty sure gene albrecht has a dvd about this very subject. Do a search about perfect aim lol. There are plenty to choose from.
 
Yup, Gene's perfect aim covers exactly this. He has some good techniques to keep you in the right spot.
 
I throw, write and do just about everything with my right hand.
I'm a lefty when it comes to holding a hockey stick or golf club.

If I bridge my cue with my left hand, am I a lefty or righty?
I can't believe I haven't realized this before.
 
I had similar issues when I first started playing pool. My issue was that after a few tests, we found that I didn't have a dominant eye. In other words, neither my right or left eye favored. However, it's still a fact that at any given time, yor're always favoring one or the other eye. We found that in my case, I was switching back and forth between both eyes with equal frequency. So in order to correct my issue, I had to train myself to be aware of what eye I was seeing with at any given moment, and if needed, based on my cue position, correct and switch to the proper (in my case, left) eye.
dave
 
DoubleD said:
Eye dominance is a stupid thing to be preoccupied with.

The brain is far more complex than stupid people give it credit for. When I was in psych class in HS, we did an experiment which involved reading Braille. Being that none of us read Braille, we were just using our fingertips to match what the pattern was. We did this for about five minutes with our eyes open, then five minutes with our eyes closed, then for five minutes after being blindfolded for thirty minutes. Everybody who would go through the thirty minute blindfold session was nearly ten times as accurate at telling what dots were on the cards.

The brain adjusts for what it needs. It does it very quickly. We usually stand in the way of allowing the brain to adjust.

So, to paraphrase a great book: Shut up self one, self two is working now.

dld
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So you're saying you don't need to practice, just get up and you will play your best (as long as you get your mind out of the way)? Come on man you're making it awful hard to take you serious lol.
 
8onthebreak said:
Jason, have you messed with this, do you line up left eye over cue?
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No I line up pretty much dead center. I have played around with it a lil and it is useful. I do know a right handed guy that lines up over his left eye. Looks awkward as shit, but you can't argue with results.
 
DoubleD said:
Lolz.

That isn't what I said at all. I simply said that the brain overcomes obstacles if we enable it to do so.

Reading Comprehension 101 should be on your list of classes to take. I never said anything about practicing or not.

Have fun.

dld
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If you break it down he is basically tweaking mechanics to remove flaws no? You said it's dumb to mess to even mess with it and you should just work on getting your mind out of the way because the brain will overcome stupid obstacles like getting lined up over the cue correctly no? Isn't practice where you work on your game?
That H.S. degree in psych has prolly made you a million dollars by now lmfao. Tell the other lemmings to follow you :)
 
DoubleD said:
Eye dominance is a stupid thing to be preoccupied with.

The brain is far more complex than stupid people give it credit for. When I was in psych class in HS, we did an experiment which involved reading Braille. Being that none of us read Braille, we were just using our fingertips to match what the pattern was. We did this for about five minutes with our eyes open, then five minutes with our eyes closed, then for five minutes after being blindfolded for thirty minutes. Everybody who would go through the thirty minute blindfold session was nearly ten times as accurate at telling what dots were on the cards.

The brain adjusts for what it needs. It does it very quickly. We usually stand in the way of allowing the brain to adjust.

So, to paraphrase a great book: Shut up self one, self two is working now.

dld
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Not setting up in a dominant position or at least addressing it during your initial aiming is far far stupider than being preoccupied with it... Being preoccupied with anything tho is still a bad thing... You need to have worked on it until it is second nature.....

Stupid people tend to be lazy and will not work on fundamentals or gathering information so they will never truly give their complex brains the data that will help it to perform at it's highest level.... Saw lots of these people flunk out of my college psych class....

Another thing to note is that when deprived of one of our senses the other senses compensate... If you lose your sight you will have an increase in hearing, smell and touch.... 100% positive in the fact that the blindfold lesson was to illustrate that phenomenon...

The brain adjusts based on the information you feed it... feed it bad info watch it give you bad results.....

Getting out of your own way IS great advice... but you had better be pretty solid in all areas when you go on autopilot......

8onthebreak... Call Geno and he can work with you on how to stay dominant so you can make the issue totally second nature... Knowing which eye is dominant is only half of the battle.........
 
It all depends on where the eyes are naturally on a straight in shot.

Blue Hog ridr said:
I throw, write and do just about everything with my right hand.
I'm a lefty when it comes to holding a hockey stick or golf club.

If I bridge my cue with my left hand, am I a lefty or righty?
I can't believe I haven't realized this before.
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Your dominant eye will be most likely in the correct position when you aim a straight in shot. Just not the perfect position.

Give me a call and i'll help you figure this out. It won't take long.

Have a great day geno...715-563-8712

Once you find out which eye is dominant, then you need to learn how to use it to the most of your ability.
 
8onthebreak said:
Not knowing which eye is dominant can lead to "bad days" with no explanation. 3 years ago, after a couple decades of playing pool I attended gun safety with my teenage son where I discovered that I was "left eye" dominant. (I play pool right handed!!!). My entire life I've done everything rt handed, write,throw,...anything that's 1 handed...but played hockey, batted, golfed left handed!!!

In the next couple weeks, I realized that when I was "off" on my cuts, I moved my face over so that my left eye is directly over the cue, which leads to an immediate correction on accuracy...every time.

I don't believe in bad days. I believe that something causes them. We do something a little different that causes it, and when you find that certain thing, it's a blessing!!!

Has anyone out there ever discovered anything about their game like this?

Are there any left handed or ambidextrous players out there who play pool right handed?
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FYI - Willie Mosconi was left eye dominant - and he played pretty fair.

My personal experience - for years I played WAY out of good alignment.

When I was able to consistently set up with the shaft directly under
my right eye(the dominant one) my ability as a shotmaker improved
dramitically.

Dale
 
8onthebreak said:
Not knowing which eye is dominant can lead to "bad days" with no explanation
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In the next couple weeks, I realized that when I was "off" on my cuts, I moved my face over so that my left eye is directly over the cue, which leads to an immediate correction on accuracy...every time.
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The importance of dominant eye in pool is debatable (for more info, see the dominant eye resource page). Now, what is important is that your vision center be located over the line of the shot. Your vision center might happen to be aligned with your dominant eye, but this isn't the case for most people. For more info, see the vision center resource page.

Regards,
Dave
 
8onthebreak said:
Are there any left handed or ambidextrous players out there who play pool right handed?
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Mike Sigel (you may have heard of him) is an example of a right-handed person who plays pool left-handed.

Billy Incardona is an example of a right-handed player who's left-eye dominant and very noticeably lines up with his left eye over the cue.

Those guys can play this game pretty well. I think the moral of the story is, know which eye is dominant, experiment with how the cue lines up underneath your eyes, and find out what works for you. There's no one answer that's optimal for all players.

-Andrew
 
Andrew Manning said:
Mike Sigel (you may have heard of him) is an example of a right-handed person who plays pool left-handed.

Billy Incardona is an example of a right-handed player who's left-eye dominant and very noticeably lines up with his left eye over the cue.

Those guys can play this game pretty well. I think the moral of the story is, know which eye is dominant, experiment with how the cue lines up underneath your eyes, and find out what works for you. There's no one answer that's optimal for all players.

-Andrew
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There is no position that is optimal for all players but there are reference points that most people are totally unaware of.... Without the reference points it's pretty easy to cross yourself up and not even know it.... You can experiment for 25 years but you still may not know what you don't know... If you knew what you didn't know you wouldn't not know it.....
 
The Renfro said:
There is no position that is optimal for all players but there are reference points that most people are totally unaware of.... Without the reference points it's pretty easy to cross yourself up and not even know it.... You can experiment for 25 years but you still may not know what you don't know... If you knew what you didn't know you wouldn't not know it.....
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And the reference points are?
 
Available to anyone with 20 minutes that will call Gene...

I will not say that a player cannot develop their own... I just think if you have yet to do so you would be far better served calling someone who has already studied and developed solid references...

I am not saying this is top secret info. I just don't feel like I should steal Geno's thunder when he is more than happy to share it......
 
The Renfro said:
Available to anyone with 20 minutes that will call Gene...

I will not say that a player cannot develop their own... I just think if you have yet to do so you would be far better served calling someone who has already studied and developed solid references...

I am not saying this is top secret info. I just don't feel like I should steal Geno's thunder when he is more than happy to share it......
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No problem
 
Playin pool my whole life, and have to learn this on my own...after 20 yrs of being inconsistent...makes me realize how much we'll never know about the game after a lifetime of serious play!!!!!!!!
 
dr_dave said:
The importance of dominant eye in pool is debatable (for more info, see the dominant eye resource page). Now, what is important is that your vision center be located over the line of the shot. Your vision center might happen to be aligned with your dominant eye, but this isn't the case for most people. For more info, see the vision center resource page.

Regards,
Dave
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very true, head position plays a big role in level of eye dominance. what appears to be your eye dominance can shift from left eye to right eye or vice versa based upon that alone. it all has to do with your brain deciding for you what information from which eye it would rather process more of.
 
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