Do you play good and make your cue an asset, or does your cue play good and make you an asset? Some people think a cue makes or breaks them! I think the player makes the cue good!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
Does a good cue make the player or does a good player make the cue?
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A good cue is an asset, but without good skills, it's just a stick. The cue making business is in hopes the you might think a nicer cue will make you a better player. We are a consumer nation, "the great Paper Plate Society", buying new & newer good makes the world go around.
If you ever witnessed a great player beat someone with a broom, you'd instantly know the answer to this question.
And there is is this commonly used phrase, "It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian".
Merry Christmas to everyone, hope you all have a great day.
If you ever witnessed a great player beat someone with a broom, you'd instantly know the answer to this question.
And there is is this commonly used phrase, "It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian".
Merry Christmas to everyone, hope you all have a great day.
Once upon a time way off in Pool School:
I had a student who claimed he had the best "drawing" cue ever produced. I took his cue and set it on the table, right behind the cue ball. After about 5 minutes he asked me what I was doing? I told him I was waiting anxiously to watch his cue "draw' the cue ball.
Enough said
randyg
I had a student who claimed he had the best "drawing" cue ever produced. I took his cue and set it on the table, right behind the cue ball. After about 5 minutes he asked me what I was doing? I told him I was waiting anxiously to watch his cue "draw' the cue ball.
Enough said
randyg
same question posed in business. does the suit make the man, or does the man make the suit. one without the other produces nothing. the two working together can make beautiful things happen. merry Christmas to all.
I currently use a $100 EBay cue of unknown origin that I tinkered with a bit in the shop. The shaft was given to me when the hall that we played in closed its doors.
I do have a couple of more expensive cues but I play with this one for two reasons.
One is that I hate taking a good cue to the bar with me for league night.
The other being that I figure if I can't pocket balls properly with a $100 cue,
then I won't let a more expensive cue do it for me.
Until I am satisfied that I have learned some of the more intricate parts of the game
and I can do it with my cheaper cue, I will leave the expensive ones in the closet.
I do take the nice ones out to the hall to give them some air time on occasion.
The shaft always has a top notch tip on it tho. Thats one thing I won't scrimp on.
Might not be the proper way to see it but its just a small quirk I have.
I believe that you have to have the right equipment for the job, so finding
that cue that fits you right is the way to go in the long run.
If it happens to be a $100 cue or a $1500.00 cue, either way mission accomplished.
On the other hand, I know guys that can play with bar wood and kick just about anyones buttski.
I do have a couple of more expensive cues but I play with this one for two reasons.
One is that I hate taking a good cue to the bar with me for league night.
The other being that I figure if I can't pocket balls properly with a $100 cue,
then I won't let a more expensive cue do it for me.
Until I am satisfied that I have learned some of the more intricate parts of the game
and I can do it with my cheaper cue, I will leave the expensive ones in the closet.
I do take the nice ones out to the hall to give them some air time on occasion.
The shaft always has a top notch tip on it tho. Thats one thing I won't scrimp on.
Might not be the proper way to see it but its just a small quirk I have.
I believe that you have to have the right equipment for the job, so finding
that cue that fits you right is the way to go in the long run.
If it happens to be a $100 cue or a $1500.00 cue, either way mission accomplished.
On the other hand, I know guys that can play with bar wood and kick just about anyones buttski.
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I like this very much.. great answer. Without knowing all science behind the game, neither players nor their cues will make them good
So long as a cue meets some basic requirements ie: being somewhat straight, good tip, reasonably balanced, not way too thick or thin in the handle or taper, ect. the rest is all the player. At around $40 you can acquire a cue good enough to play world class pool.
it's the cue
It's the cue for sure. But you need to get it before all the the good shots
are gone. I have purchased cues from some very good players just to find
that they started to miss not long after I got them. Probably the reason
they sold them. think about it.
JP
It's the cue for sure. But you need to get it before all the the good shots
are gone. I have purchased cues from some very good players just to find
that they started to miss not long after I got them. Probably the reason
they sold them. think about it.
JP
A better question would be, how much difference can a cue make? On a percentage basis, I'd say less than 10% as long as the "bad cue" was reasonable($100). A really bad cue, like a $20 dollar graphite budweiser cue with a soft, crappy tip, could be over 30% depending on skill level.
Utellme
I listened to a harmonica player play a beautiful song from a plastic toy harp.
Hope this helps. LOL
I listened to a harmonica player play a beautiful song from a plastic toy harp.
Hope this helps. LOL
OMG that's so true. You hit the nail on the head.
In fact....you just reminded me....my turn signal fluid is low......
Also reminds me....a number of years ago I was playing a guy in a bar. I had my cue and he was using a house cue. The guy simply wasn't very good at all, though he went on about how good he is....somewhere else...at some other time.... Ultimately he blamed all of his misfortune on the cue and of course he had a "custom made" Meucci at home. I finally had enough at one point, asked for the house cue he was using. I looked at the bumper and gave it a twist, then ran the rest of my 8 ball rack off the table (all but one ball).
I explained to him the the bumper was not properly indexed and if he really knew anything about cues he would have known that. I demostrated this by twising the bumper, missing a couple of cut shots, then twisting it back and making them. I elaborated on how bumper indexing can alter how a cue spins the ball and demonstrated this with a few shots, each time adjusting the bumper for the shot. Of course I refused to show him how to index the bumper. I told him that if he wanted to meet me the next evening with his Meucci I would be happy to index it for him as well.
I am certain he is still to this day twisting away at bumpers..... :thumbup:
Red Caddilac
Reminds me of the interior decorator we knew who finally bought herself a new red Caddilac just like she always wanted. She was doing well. She lost customers after that purchase. Customers probably felt like they were paying for the Caddy. She went back to a mini van and is doing well again. Perception is everything.
Reminds me of the interior decorator we knew who finally bought herself a new red Caddilac just like she always wanted. She was doing well. She lost customers after that purchase. Customers probably felt like they were paying for the Caddy. She went back to a mini van and is doing well again. Perception is everything.
Well being a cuemaker I only partially agree. While I agree with the "arrow & Indian" analogy I also know quite well that a good cue can also make a difference. A better arrow can make the indian play up to his ability whereas a POS can make them play badly. There's also a psychological advantage in playing with a cue that feels good to YOU.
Sherm
+1 sort of.
IMHO - ANY player, at any level will play better with a good cue than
he/she will with a bad cue.
As Mr. Adamson indicated, the best cue for an individual can vary widely.
Dale(just less hot air)
From a golfer's perspective. Equipment can make a difference, but not always.
I'm a 9 handicap with my Mizuno straight blades,
........7 with my muscle back MP30's (favorite and most used)
........and a 4 with a set of supper forgiving MP 23's.
To make a long story short, I would rather plat the muscle back forged MP 30's with steel R300 TT Dynamic shafts than my older set of cast cavity backed "cheater sticks" I used to call them.
........Back to billiards, I'm about to make the leap to a Joss butt, OB-1 shaft because I think that the decreased deflection will help me get to the next level.........I think
Maybe it will be a whole other animal altogether, I dunno.
I think it will help me in the med-firm strokes with english, but maybe it's just another set of deflection adjustments I'll need to make after learning the new shaft's tendencies.
Not to hijack, but does BHE work the same with a LD shaft same as a regular shaft?
I'm a 9 handicap with my Mizuno straight blades,
........7 with my muscle back MP30's (favorite and most used)
........and a 4 with a set of supper forgiving MP 23's.
To make a long story short, I would rather plat the muscle back forged MP 30's with steel R300 TT Dynamic shafts than my older set of cast cavity backed "cheater sticks" I used to call them.
........Back to billiards, I'm about to make the leap to a Joss butt, OB-1 shaft because I think that the decreased deflection will help me get to the next level.........I think
Maybe it will be a whole other animal altogether, I dunno.
I think it will help me in the med-firm strokes with english, but maybe it's just another set of deflection adjustments I'll need to make after learning the new shaft's tendencies.
Not to hijack, but does BHE work the same with a LD shaft same as a regular shaft?
My son and I were locked out of the house the other night (long story) went to closest bar and played with the house cues (our cues both SW were locked in house). Was quite pleasantly surprised how well we both played. Decent tips on cues. NO ours are not for sale. Just saying played OK with house cues. Merry X-Mas everyone.
A guy named Skibo is one of our stronger players. And he runs out great with a Players cue or anything else with a decent feel
you can play good with a bad cue and as the game wears on the bad cue will show its true self. the good cue will show its ability to stay repeatable late in the game with comfort and commitment in your shots. it is hard to play good shape late in the game with a cue that grows a hollow tin can feel.
bill
bill