What do you think of this absurd comment

SJDinPHX said:
Well Spidey, it sounds like you know everything there is to know about...well everything. So I hope I won't bore you with completing my little tale. By the way, do you know my level of play, in my prime ?

Here is the start of my story>>>http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=3385682&postcount=171

I doubt you were even born when Don Cherry was prominent..The man was an enigma..Johnny Carson, (as usual) did his homework, and found out, that Don did everything he tried, exceedingly well...He even uncovered his skill at pool and bowling. (and believe me, he could have played Jack Gleason 150 to 50, at 14.1)

Someway, Johnny steered the conversation around, to which game he thought was the most difficult to master...here was his 'very intelligent' response.

Well Johnny, they are all very demanding to learn at a high level...but I would say this, If you took 150 kids, each at their most formative years, and took 50 kids each, and gave them to a highly qualified instructor, at golf, pool and bowling...At maturity, out of those 50 each kids, you would probably get
15-- 200 avg. bowler's...The golf group, Don said..You would probably get 8 or more, scratch golfer's...The pool group..different story, you would be lucky to find even ONE, world class pool player.

Hope you enjoyed this little story, as Mr. Cherry, was no slouch, at any game, and his analysis carried a lot of weight with me.
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I don't doubt Mr. Cherry's assessment but according to your statement he is making a comparison of a scratch golfer to a world class pool player. So Mr. Cherry thinks it is easier to be fairly decent at golf than be the best in the world in pool. I don't see your point.
 
If golf is so much easier than pool, then that means Earl should be able to play golf at a higher level than he plays pool (using his logic). If that is the case, why isn't he on tour playing golf and winning millions of dollars instead of beating his brains out on the road playing pool in $5K challenge matches and tournaments that pay $2K for first place??????
 
risky biz said:
... as I recall, Earl didn't say one was harder than the other. ...
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At approximately 4:10 of Part 1 of the Strickland/Rogan video, Earl says (while pointing at the pool table): "I'm telling you right now -- this game is way harder than golf; it ain't even close."
 
SJDinPHX said:
Well Spidey, it sounds like you know everything there is to know about...well everything. So I hope I won't bore you with completing my little tale. By the way, do you know my level of play, in my prime ?

Here is the start of my story>>>http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=3385682&postcount=171

I doubt you were even born when Don Cherry was prominent..The man was an enigma..Johnny Carson, (as usual) did his homework, and found out, that Don did everything he tried, exceedingly well...He even uncovered his skill at pool and bowling. (and believe me, he could have played Jack Gleason 150 to 50, at 14.1)

Someway, Johnny steered the conversation around, to which game he thought was the most difficult to master...here was his 'very intelligent' response.

Well Johnny, they are all very demanding to learn at a high level...but I would say this, If you took 150 kids, each at their most formative years, and took 50 kids each, and gave them to a highly qualified instructor, at golf, pool and bowling...At maturity, out of those 50 each kids, you would probably get
15-- 200 avg. bowler's...The golf group, Don said..You would probably get 8 or more, scratch golfer's...The pool group..different story, you would be lucky to find even ONE, world class pool player.

Hope you enjoyed this little story, as Mr. Cherry, was no slouch, at any game, and his analysis carried a lot of weight with me.
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8 scratch golfers doesn't equate to 1 world class golfer let alone 1 world class pool player.

Um, the 8 scratch golfers don't equate to one world class golfer either. It's hard to figure pool's equivalent to a "scratch golfer." Is that someone who can run 50 consistently at 14.1? I dunno.

I think his comparison is flawed. You wouldn't get 1 world class golfer out of a random sampling of 150 kids (regardless of the instruction). I think you'd have a lock to have a 50 ball runner in there.

Look, I know pool is your baby and all since it's the game you're good at. Like I said earlier--- Don Cherry isn't the "bottom line" on this topic and for every person who thinks pool is harder, there are prob 10 who think golf is tougher.
 
You guys are arguing something that will can never be solved to everyones satisfaction. It's a matter of opinion.

If you read between the lines, Earls comments aren't really about which is harder. It is an attempt to make himself look better.
 
If your talking ,9ball,10ball not snooker, any bum could beat a world champion at least one game could be a 9 off the break and he wins.There's no way in hell is a bum golfer going to beat a pro 18 holes.There are way more upsets in pool than a slag beating all the pros and winning a green jacket......well except for Mike Weir:wink:
 
scsuxci said:
If your talking ,9ball,10ball not snooker, any bum could beat a world champion at least one game could be a 9 off the break and he wins.There's no way in hell is a bum golfer going to beat a pro 18 holes.There are way more upsets in pool than a slag beating all the pros and winning a green jacket......well except for Mike Weir:wink:
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Easy!!!That was a great day for us canadians.:thumbup:
 
SpiderWebComm said:
There are NOWHERE near as many variations in pool as in golf. I can run a rack 1 handed. Can you par a hole 1 handed? C'mon.
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There are MORE variations in pool than in golf. How often is there loud music distracting you in golf? Huh?

And, yes, I can par a hole one-handed as long as it's after the windmill.

Silly comparison. Like asking if a baseball player can hit a home run without a baseball bat if you can throw a football for a 40 yard pass without a baseball bat.
 
scsuxci said:
If your talking ,9ball,10ball not snooker, any bum could beat a world champion at least one game could be a 9 off the break and he wins.There's no way in hell is a bum golfer going to beat a pro 18 holes.There are way more upsets in pool than a slag beating all the pros and winning a green jacket......well except for Mike Weir:wink:
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Fail. A golf bum can make a hole in one just like a pool bum can make a nine on the break. A pool match is more than one rack.

That isn't relevant anyway. Don Cherry has it right.
 
jason said:
You guys are arguing something that will can never be solved to everyones satisfaction. It's a matter of opinion.

If you read between the lines, Earls comments aren't really about which is harder. It is an attempt to make himself look better.
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No it isn't. He is simply disdainful about the unjustly low regard in which pool is held. He put a huge amount of work into it and the rewards were a relative pittance.
 
risky biz said:
That is an obviously false statement.
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Whether it be 18 holes or a 72 hole tourney, the best golfer is guaranteed to win (fewest strokes). The best pool player doesn't have to win a pool tournament.

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CaptiveBred said:
Didnt sports illistrated do an article many years ago saying that pool was the hardes game to master of all non physical sports?

Golf is for pretentious suckers. Most people play it because that game is on the radar. And we know how important it is for followers to "look" like they are living life correctly :-)

Kind of like starbucks...
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You're an idiot. Until they have pool played outdoors and in all elements, it isnt even close. Look at how much length there is in a golf swing. Compare it to a pool stroke. Pool is in a much more confined area. Not to mention the fact in pool games you have "Patterns" to know that make it easy to get out. There are no patterns in golf. This subject has been beaten to death. Those who think pool is harder are just in denial or blinded by their ego as to how they view their own game. I played golf as an amateur and professional. I have played in a couple pro pool tournaments in Fla and I know I finished better in the pool tournaments than I did in the golf tournaments.
 
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risky biz said:
Fail. A golf bum can make a hole in one just like a pool bum can make a nine on the break. A pool match is more than one rack.

That isn't relevant anyway. Don Cherry has it right.
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True enough but a hole in one doesn't end the game where a 9ball does.I'm not a golfer but its not even close enough to debate.Golf is just a tougher game hands down.
 
scsuxci said:
True enough but a hole in one doesn't end the game where a 9ball does.I'm not a golfer but its not even close enough to debate.Golf is just a tougher game hands down.
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Not to mention the absolutely absurd rarity of a hole in one. A golf ball has a HUGE area it can potentially land on when struck. To even have a CHANCE at a hole in one a ball has to be struck phenomenally well, and even then it is almost certainly NOT going in the hole. I have golfed hundreds of games over 2 decades always in groups of usually 4 people and in my entire life I have seen ONE person get a hole in one ONCE, and it was not me. Most people go a lifetime without getting a hole in one, there are plaques on the walls of most golf courses that herald the very rare event and the frequency of people getting them is completely insignificant.

Let a golf bum got out and play 500 rounds of golf, the chances of his getting a hole in one just once are extremely remote. Guys who actually suck at the game have a tough enough time hitting the green on a par 3, let alone actually getting the ball anywhere near the hole.

And Don Cherry was an idiot in that quote, he tried to prove his point by saying you would get 8 scratch golfers out of 50 and only one "world class" pool player. Sorry but that is apples and friggin bananas. Want to compare apples to apples then how many of those 50 kids playing pool will become the next Efren? Probably none. How many will become the next Tiger Woods? Almost guarenteed none. And you will get alot less scratch golfers then you will get 100 ball runners on todays equipment if you want to compare apples to apples at the other end. But Don goes and tries to compare a scratch golfer as the equivalent to a world class (aka top 10) pool player? That is just dumb, you compare a world class pool player to a world class golfer and that is a top 10 golfer on the PGA and in those 50 kids you are almost sure as heck not getting one of those.
 
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Slh said:
according to this article on espn billiards is the easiest sport in the world lol
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills?sort=total_rank#grid
golf which is the hardest game in the world according to many people is only 51. I think this article is bs.
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Haha...I just looked at this list. Whoever came up with this is a moron. So let me get this right...table tennis requires more analytical aptitude than 1 pocket...sure that makes sense. Unreal lol. No wonder I hate ESPN.

KMRUNOUT
 
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