Are you sure these guys are "Amateurs"?

There is nothing amateur about this tournament. Even the guys you have never heard of are running racks out from everywhere! I love this event!
 
It is a little surprising to see Stan this deep in, just because I don't remember seeing it before.

Glenn Atwell, on the other hand, is a killer on the small track. Considering two years ago, he got 2nd in 10 ball, 1st in 9 ball, 2nd in 8 ball, and won the all around, it is no surprise to see him beat anyone in the field.
 
It is a little surprising to see Stan this deep in, just because I don't remember seeing it before.

Glenn Atwell, on the other hand, is a killer on the small track. Considering two years ago, he got 2nd in 10 ball, 1st in 9 ball, 2nd in 8 ball, and won the all around, it is no surprise to see him beat anyone in the field.

You're right about Glenn. I think you may be wrong about Stan though, he seems to place high every year out here. I think he even won one of these things before.
 
Sounds like Shane may have taken them for granted.

Gotta figure, it's barbox. Most people play better on the box, especially 9ball.

Barbox favors the lesser player.
 
i saw the music city open some day ago and they were using the magic rack for 9 ball on a barbox. Also the format was winner breaks and rack your own LOL.
The magic rack for 9 ball is stupid, but also winner breaks and rack your own in a barbox is even more! I could have run packages on that tournament and I'm a banger lol..
 
The US bar table championships. Stan Tourangeau and Glen Atwell took SVB out of the nine ball bracket.

If it was an "amateur" event, what was he doing playing in it anyways? And....if it wasn't an amateur event (which we all know that it wasn't) he should have expected the competition to be tough.

It just goes to show you that the game of 9-ball in short races can be an "equalizer", so-to-speak. It's not fit for serious professional play. Anyone, and I mean anyone (anyone except a hack like me, of course) can catch a gear and win a short race against a pro, especially if that pro catches a few bad rolls or is having an off night.

Maniac
 
For the record...

In Shane's loss to Stan on the winner's side, it was hill/hill, and Shane played a great safety on the 4 ball. Stan had only one option, a one rail kick to the top side of the table. He hit it nicely, and left Shane some distance and a tough cut. Shane took the shot and missed. Shane had at least 3 unforced errors in that set and he knows it. I highly doubt Shane blames anyone but himself for losing that set.
 
You're right about Glenn. I think you may be wrong about Stan though, he seems to place high every year out here. I think he even won one of these things before.

I know Stan does well, I just don't recall him ever being that deep in. I didn't consider him on the same threat level as Glenn. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong though. I will refer to your judgment as you have been there playing multiple times and I am sitting on my couch.

Stan plays good. I drew him in the one pocket a few years ago at derby and he squeaked out a victory. I had no idea who he was, so I looked him up after the match. Pretty good player.
 
If it was an "amateur" event, what was he doing playing in it anyways? And....if it wasn't an amateur event (which we all know that it wasn't) he should have expected the competition to be tough.

It just goes to show you that the game of 9-ball in short races can be an "equalizer", so-to-speak. It's not fit for serious professional play. Anyone, and I mean anyone (anyone except a hack like me, of course) can catch a gear and win a short race against a pro, especially if that pro catches a few bad rolls or is having an off night.

Maniac

I definitely agree with this. And it's not just the fact it's "the game of 9-ball" being the equalizer. The fact that it's being played on barboxes to boot, cements this as a contest not fit for professional consumption.

However, some pros like to try and see if they can outrun the "equalization" factor of this non-professional game played on non-professional equipment. It certainly is a test for sure!

-Sean
 
I know Stan does well, I just don't recall him ever being that deep in. I didn't consider him on the same threat level as Glenn. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong though. I will refer to your judgment as you have been there playing multiple times and I am sitting on my couch.

Stan plays good. I drew him in the one pocket a few years ago at derby and he squeaked out a victory. I had no idea who he was, so I looked him up after the match. Pretty good player.

If you almost beat Stan, that speaks volumes for your game. One thing to add about Stan and Glenn, they are both gentleman. I have never seen them get out of line, and they are a pleasure to know.
 
i saw the music city open some day ago and they were using the magic rack for 9 ball on a barbox. Also the format was winner breaks and rack your own LOL.
The magic rack for 9 ball is stupid, but also winner breaks and rack your own in a barbox is even more! I could have run packages on that tournament and I'm a banger lol..

Agreed. The Magic Rack for professional 9-ball is a joke. Hell, the game is easy enough for them already without getting an advantage of making a ball on the break every rack (or two or three). Hell, last night here at the house my weak-armed wife was making a ball on EVERY break using the MR and made three balls on the break twice (she broke about a total of 7 times).

It looks like modern day 9-ball has evolved to where 7-ball (the T.V. version) was 10-15 years ago. Maybe they should start awarding BIH after a missed shot like they did in 7-ball (unless a safety is called, and then only 1 per game). That would be a perfect mix with the MR for quickening-up the matches :rolleyes:, which is what they seem to be trying to do.

Maniac
 
It is a little surprising to see Stan this deep in, just because I don't remember seeing it before.

Glenn Atwell, on the other hand, is a killer on the small track. Considering two years ago, he got 2nd in 10 ball, 1st in 9 ball, 2nd in 8 ball, and won the all around, it is no surprise to see him beat anyone in the field.

Stan's specialty is the barbox, when he finds his groove he's very tough to beat. He was a teammate of mine at the VNEA quite a few years ago and in back to back years won the open singles and then both masters 8 and 9 ball...if memory serves me right he was the first person ever to do it. The funny thing is that a few years back someone else managed to win both masters singles events, his name was SVB.
 
I definitely agree with this. And it's not just the fact it's "the game of 9-ball" being the equalizer. The fact that it's being played on barboxes to boot, cements this as a contest not fit for professional consumption.

However, some pros like to try and see if they can outrun the "equalization" factor of this non-professional game played on non-professional equipment. It certainly is a test for sure!

-Sean

Sean, just wait until the 8-ball starts. Race to 5!!! I still think the pros have the edge in these tournaments all day long. Look at the final 3 of the 10-ball (SVB, Stevie Moore, Larry Nevel).
 
If it was an "amateur" event, what was he (SVB) doing playing in it anyways? ....

Maniac

That is what I was thinking...along with: SVB may never complain about playin a non-handicapped event ever. He plays better than everyone, so where's the beef?
 
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