Open Offer to Danny Harriman and John Schmidt from TAR

Wait, so now Danny wants to play? I thought he was wanting more than $1000 show up money to play. If he want to play then why is he not contacting Justin? I am only saying this since Danny originally 'PM'ed Justin to decline the match offer.

S.G.

Sunny, Im confused but it sounds to me like Danny is in the negotiation stage of things.
 
I realize that TAR was trying to create prematch hype. But there's also an element of high-pressure sales tactics at work here too. By announcing this match challenge on AZB, it puts more pressure on both parties, especially Danny, to participate. If Danny declines, which he did, than he gets criticized by everyone on AZB for his decision (regardless of what factors influenced his decision).

That's why I commented earlier that it would have been so much better to negotiate this match challenge quietly using back channels.

I know you dont get it.

I have spoken with Justin before and he does do that.

You seem not to get the hints he is giving you.

Ken
 
I know you dont get it.

I have spoken with Justin before and he does do that.

You seem not to get the hints he is giving you.

Ken
No question that these types of match ups are better off negotiated quietly without the distractions of the AZB rail birds. The two match ups that Justin is currently working is ample proof that a behind the scenes approach works better for all parties.
 
Nice to see the usual dead horse beaters beating this thread to death. Nice work. You know who you are.. Keep posting...
 
Sunny, Im confused but it sounds to me like Danny is in the negotiation stage of things.

Negotiation stage? With whom? Far as I know, Danny has not contacted Justin to "Negotiate".

And yes, Mark Griffin is easy going and would like to see this match happen but if it does, it will be under original offer... if Danny were to contact Justin :rolleyes:

S.G.
 
The only thing I might add is once you decide to leave "matching up," promoters want you! I’m amazed at how many pros this has happened too.

It is sad because while the pros were active, nobody showed any interest. But as soon as they put their titles and talent away, everyone wants them playing again.

It just shows how promoters have nothing to sell without the players.
 
Just watched it and it was good. I dont think Mark Griffin is 100% opposed to the idea of this match going off.

Because he is a wise businessman. :cool:

One thing I have learned in business is one should never slam the door, because they just might have to use it again. ;)
 
delete!

will someone please delete this thread! it's over, done, finished. danny #ucked it up by running his mouth at justin( don't bite the hand that feeds you). justin told him to go pound sand. get this thread out of here1
! IMO Danny needs his ego stroked before he can play, suck it up and don't be such a premadonna. let's get some people that are thankful for the opportunity to play and showcase their talents, instead of people that think they deserve to be pampered.
 
will someone please delete this thread! it's over, done, finished. danny #ucked it up by running his mouth at justin( don't bite the hand that feeds you). justin told him to go pound sand. get this thread out of here1
! IMO Danny needs his ego stroked before he can play, suck it up and don't be such a premadonna. let's get some people that are thankful for the opportunity to play and showcase their talents, instead of people that think they deserve to be pampered.

Point well taken, but I don't think this thread should be deleted. Mainly for the reason that this thread shows us true colors of people we are dealing with.

1. Justin is a fair & straight shooter.
2. Mark just loves the game and doesn't sweat the little stuff.
3. Danny holds grudge and pulls trigger too soon.
4. John... well, well, John...if you don't love him by now at least you love goats :p

S.G.
 
will someone please delete this thread! it's over, done, finished. danny #ucked it up by running his mouth at justin( don't bite the hand that feeds you). justin told him to go pound sand. get this thread out of here1
! IMO Danny needs his ego stroked before he can play, suck it up and don't be such a premadonna. let's get some people that are thankful for the opportunity to play and showcase their talents, instead of people that think they deserve to be pampered.

Frick it, let's kick this horse a little further for the sake of prosperity.


Allow me to break this down for you all:

1.) Bottom line this match will and needs to happen.

2.) Danny knows this and so he started the process of healing with his heart felt post No. 486. Well, it was kind of an apology but then he tried to be funny at the end and it might have become an insult. But it doesn't even matter. Money is money.

3.) I also listened and watched Podcast 14. It is clear exactly how Justin sees the whole situation.

4.) It is fair for him to feel like frick it. Can't give money away. Well come get it then mofos. But you got to play Shane even. We will see how that goes.

5.) BTW, you can read a lot with Mark and Justin's body language.

6.) I agree that today Justin may not be a good negotiator but if he could learn more about human behavior and appear to be more tolerant it would help him get things done.

7.) Justin is not a closer...he is an opener. Opener's are usually entrepreneurs and leaders.

8.) Closers are usually sales folks. Mark is a closer. So they make a good team.

HAHAHA

Mark in Houston, TX
 
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Ok Justin if u say u would have given me the same offer then I guess I

will take u at your word I have never known u to be dishonest. I will say that if u would have given me a private

message that u had a total amount of 4 dimes ($2000.00 a piece for this

match and John turned it down - past tence) then I would have understood. I just did

not like reading in your open public post that u had an outside party for John and no mention for me almost as if I did not exist - after all - in your

short post there was nothing about how u had $2000.00 a piece for John

and I. It was however saying only that you had found $2000.00 for John (private campeign so to speak.) I

won't call u names as u did me, I just wanted to let yall know that I will

play when I am ready and I really never liked playing teeter totter with

someone who is three times my weight - I like it a little more evenly

balanced than that sir. Plus it's easy for the little guy to get 'bucked' hard.

Im just curious why you keep referring to my weight ? Do you think its funny? I mean we all have different things about us that one can pick out to make fun of. I'm fat, you're crazy as a shithouse rat. Why keep going back to the well ?

If Mark or someone else wants to jump in the quagmire and try to do this match more power to them. I wont have anything to do with you. No bloody way am I spending a second working to put money in your pocket. I gave it an honest fair shot numerous times and all you do is spout nonsense.

Everyone seems to think this match is a huge moneymaker. If thats the case I'm sure there will be plenty of people willing to put up the money and deal with the metric shit ton of bullshit that will be required to possibly get it to go. According to more than a few people its easy so anyone should be able to do it.

For the people who think I'm being harsh... you have absolutely no idea what has went into trying to make this stupid match over the years. At one time I wanted to see the end of the story and thought we could make some money. Now I simply do not care.
 
For the people who think I'm being harsh... you have absolutely no idea what has went into trying to make this stupid match over the years. At one time I wanted to see the end of the story and thought we could make some money. Now I simply do not care.

I agree with you Justin, but the problem is with this world is sometimes you have to deal with shit. That is life, and especially business. I don't mean you have to lay down to anyone but sometimes you have to just bite your tongue and go with it. You said it as well as alot of people, this would draw a BIG audience, especially now that all this drama has taken place. It might be something to reconsider just this once if both parties, well one party finally agrees. You did state that you want to give people (PPV buyers) what they wanted. I think this would definately be a huge success. If this goes off I think you will be remembered for what you were able to bring together not the petty drama shit that has been happenning with trying to get this together. But it is YOUR business and you do what you feel is best. I just think this hype has gotten this showdown to potentially be the biggest you ever had at TAR.
 
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