race to 25 2 out of 3 sets

JasonCrugar said:
No disrespect meant, but I think the better player still gets there more often than not. Sure the underdog has a chance to win, but it isn't nearly as brutal for the better player as a short tourny race to 7 or 9.
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The better player will get there "more often than not" whether it's a race to 100, race to 25 two out of three sets, race to 11, race to 7, or a race to 1. It's just that the shorter the race, the greater the chance of an upset.

I think the race to 25 two out of three format is fine (I would even be fine with a race to 21, two out of three format).
 
The comments about "no pressure..." etc. are bullshit. If a player were getting staked, would there be pressure? Very few bet there own and even the ones that do, have been staked in big games.

And they get caught making a saver, they in trouble. I also believe TAR is doin or will be doing (or should be) giving players a 1099 so if you make $4k, you report $4k to the IRS. You chop up money that your paying tax on and your gonna end up loser when you won.

As far as the better player... I don't know. It's close. Agreed, and ahead set is better but this format is easier on the viewers and better for betting. Any format, you can out run the nuts.

I like this format, but wish it was race to 30. Those 5 extra are a big difference.
 
Twenty five is an awfully long race in ten ball, bordering on being too long.

Thankfully, the interminable race to 100 format is becoming a TAR dinosaur, making these TAR matches more watchable than in the past.
 
champ2107 said:
you want to know about my gambling habits? :thumbup::thumbup: or were saying he pushes them but they dont come back :grin:
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No, that would be MY chips that don't come back.
Every once in a while, I think I can make a guy fold.....
...but they read me like a book..:angry:

pt..<..Brunson never calls me for advice
 
i think 25 is good, it keeps the pressure on and players and focused, they cant afford to slack off or they will fall to far behind. Skill and mental toughness wins these matches.
 
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I think the TAR format is perfect. The better player is not going to neccessarily win in any race. It comes down to who performs better.....thats what makes it a contest...anyone can win. Races to 25 playing 10 ball on that table..no one is going to accidently win.

On a side note...I'll use these 3 matches to illustrate the following point.

JA-SVB...Oscar-Raj...Hatch-Dechaine

The player that won had the most mechanically/fundamentally sound game. I think in this format..and on the TAR table that will hold true 90% of the time.

One more point...I would like to see Oscar get another shot. I think his game is tailored for this table. In fact Oscar and Dechaine would be a nice matchup.
 
real bartram said:
wow guess you dont read much od the thread
just what you want to?
i never said i liked my side in fact
i said i know im an underdog vs all
of them.
i was asked if i thought i could ever win
in that format and yes i can.
i will say it once again im an under dog for sure.
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i'm confused.

since you'd be the underdog,wouldn't the 2/3 format play in your favor then?
but in an earlier post,you said you preferred the "one long set" format.

which is it then?
 
seven_7days said:
i'm confused.

since you'd be the underdog,wouldn't the 2/3 format play in your favor then?
but in an earlier post,you said you preferred the "one long set" format.

which is it then?
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He's saying he prefers race to 100 but not looking to play those guys even. But in a 2 of 3 format he has a chane (which is the whole point of this thread) He's the dog in either format but has a better shot in 2 of 3.
 
cleary said:
He's saying he prefers race to 100 but not looking to play those guys even. But in a 2 of 3 format he has a chane (which is the whole point of this thread) He's the dog in either format but has a better shot in 2 of 3.
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It is fairly sad when you have to explain it as you read it........:scratchhead:
 
real bartram said:
to find out who is really the best player
you have to play like a race to 300 or 30 or 40 ahead.
the reason players are playing this 2 out of 3 sets
is they are not betting anything.
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Bingo,this is where the truth lies,when u dig in your pockets and you empty everything you got in the pot,you would not be playing best 2out of 3 sets,and i did this many times when i empty my pockets,they r going to have to beat me by winning more games as in a ahead set,but we are talking two totally different ways of playing, Tars way is best for them and their business,but gambling will always be different,when players are gambling if they lose they are losing their money,which brings many more aspects to the game(pressure wise),What TAR does is awesom (in their own ways of doing things)i beleive its the best n only way they can do what they r doing in their business!
 
seven_7days said:
Okay cool.

off topic but what adjustments do you make when applying inside english on a table with new cloth?

thnx in advance.
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Jack up, just a little and hit it a lot harder than normal. And it helps if you have one foot off the ground, not sure why.
 
Make the game!

I'm sure JA or SVB, Busta will play anybody anywhere any time, so I hope those that think they can get there in any format need only make the game...., it would be cool to see it on TAR with whatever rules the two players come up with, but the game is out there to be made.
 
Cracks me up when people contend after a marathon match that the match was too short to mean anything.

Including the US Open 10-ball, Shane and Archer have played four sets and 143 racks of 10-ball in the last couple of weeks. Archer won in an aggregate score of 75-68 and won three out of four sets.

My guess is that even if they played 100 ahead, some on this forum would contend it wasn't enough.

Making your way in the world of pool is about learning how to win short races, not long races. As both Dennis Hatch and Mike Dechaine commented when they participated in a TAR podcast, with winner breaks, there is much more pressure in a short race because you know that your next mistake may be your last. Dealing with late match pressure is the true measure of a champion. The Derby City Nine Ball event, consisting of races to seven has given us Orcullo and Van Boening as our last two champions. No, the short race doesn't get in the way of the cream rising to the top, but is instead a great way to identify the true champions.

Time to give Johnny his full due. He, for practical purposes, won a race to 75 against Shane.
 
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