Chinese decal cues.
Most people who buy them think they are beautiful.
Most people who buy them think they are beautiful.
What Is The Most Over Rated Cue?
- Thread starter Bill Yerd
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Over and under rated
ALL cues are over rated OR under rated depending on who is holding them at the time. What I enjoy, you may not and vice versa. This is one of those threads where there probably is no right or wrong answer but it is interesting to see different opinions.
ALL cues are over rated OR under rated depending on who is holding them at the time. What I enjoy, you may not and vice versa. This is one of those threads where there probably is no right or wrong answer but it is interesting to see different opinions.
Not at all...I own 2 customs and I am not wealthy. Just saved up on the side....you'd be surprised what a little discipline with money will get you
I have 3 Varneys, 2 players and a j/b. I have other more expensive cues also. In my case right now is one of my Varney players and my Varney j/b. I will never sell either. I have a Little Al Romero shaft that I am using on the player currently. I also have a 1st gen pred shaft for it that needs a new tip. I'm going to put one of the Milk Dud tips I got from Nathan Tavarez on it. I can really spin the cue ball with those tips. I have one on one of my Varney shafts and really like them. I'm interested in seeing what happens when I put one on my predator shaft. Nathan is an AZ member. Varneys are really great cues for the money. I keep coming back to mine.
This illustrates the point I was trying to make in my post on page 1. Take a Lee Peppers cue (@$600.00 or so) as opposed to a Southwest cue (@$5,000.00 and a ten-year wait). The Lee Peppers cue is made with fine woods, fine materials, has nice veneered points, are beautiful, and play very nice (especially if you like a stiff-hitting cue). A Southwest offers the same quality cue. If you think the difference in workmanship and materials in a Southwest cue are $4,400 better than the Lee Peppers cue, then I've got some fertile farmland near Chernobyl that I'd like to sell you :wink:.
Your paying for a name. If cuesports continue in their current nosedive you may not ever recover the $$$ you thought you were investing in an expensive custom. They may be nothing more than a high-dollar rake handle some day.
Like I've said in other threads when the subject arises, I don't care how anyone chooses to spend their money. It's none of my business. But I have opinions and I think Americans are some of the biggest fad-chasing, name-dropping, most gullible culture of human beings on the planet.
Maniac
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That pretty well sums up a large percentage of them:thumbup:
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I'm going to paint my cue matt black so nobody will know who made it or what it costs. Then none of that noise will matter. I only care about one thing-thats how good it plays.
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Other cues are great if you pay $10,000 and sell it for $12,000 then its a $2000 cue. Thats how I see it.
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I do have cues that I dont think about the $$$, its the history or art that i care about.
Why is everyone sweating the $$$ so hard?? enjoy the wood, be glad your alive and didnt have a heart attack last week. This thread is so negitative, look at the bright side, at least you have a choice in cues.
I'm going to paint my cue matt black so nobody will know who made it or what it costs. Then none of that noise will matter. I only care about one thing-thats how good it plays.
#2:
Other cues are great if you pay $10,000 and sell it for $12,000 then its a $2000 cue. Thats how I see it.
#3:
I do have cues that I dont think about the $$$, its the history or art that i care about.
Why is everyone sweating the $$$ so hard?? enjoy the wood, be glad your alive and didnt have a heart attack last week. This thread is so negitative, look at the bright side, at least you have a choice in cues.
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I'm going to paint my cue matt black so nobody will know who made it or what it costs. Then none of that noise will matter. I only care about one thing-thats how good it plays.
#2:
Other cues are great if you pay $10,000 and sell it for $12,000 then its a $2000 cue. Thats how I see it.
#3:
I do have cues that I dont think about the $$$, its the history or art that i care about.
Why is everyone sweating the $$$ so hard?? enjoy the wood, be glad your alive and didnt have a heart attack last week. This thread is so negitative, look at the bright side, at least you have a choice in cues.[/QUOTE]
eric i agree
everyone should stop and smell the roses
i think to a degree and i could be wrong people who cant afford higher priced cues will of course defend their cue and say you pay extra for a
name
a kia and a mercedes both get you to work
and it takes a certain price point for the quality of the materials and the reasonable cost for the atrisans time to be in the upper levels of quality
the price you pay for a name is the reputation and reliablilty they have EARNED over many years of production
the confidence in buying one of those cues to be well made with no shortcuts is the premium in price you pay
does the emperer wear no clothes ??
thats the gist of this thread
when does the markup exceed the quality???
thats the question
jmho icbw
sorry for the ramble its getting to be past my bed time
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Good post. I agree. Essentially, there's no such thing as an overrated cue. It's all a matter of opinion and supply/demand. You may think South West is overrated, but a 10 year waiting list says not. You may think a Tasc, a Searing or a Black Boar is overrated, but what they bring on the market says not.
It's all about what you like and what you're willing to pay for.
-J
the length os a waiting list is not a sign of how many people want a cue, its a sign of how inefficient a shop is in fulfilling its orders. Thats not a knock on SW or anyone with a list, it takes a long time to build cues, and depending on construction proceedures and time between cuts it can take a very long time to fill orders, thats not efficant. A 10 year wait at SW might be 300 people, the same 300 people might be a 500 year wait with Barry or 2 weeks with Predator,
Its not accurate to gauge anything by a wait list, other than the efficancy of a cue maker. and truth be told i dont want a efficant shop building my cue, i want a top old school cue maker, not a factory. So yeah IMO waiting lists are a good sign. Not a measurement of anything.
Nobody knows how many people are on SW waiting list but Laurie and I know it would take Predator a week to fill that list. Which is meaningless, what matters is the quality of the wood the cues are made with, and is often the weak link of new cue makers-building cues with green wood and biting off more than they can chew. Leaving only pissed off customers and repair work. It takes years to age wood and cut down shafts the correct way, while that happens the list grows. A useless guage.
All that matters is good cues. Paint them all black and play for big $$$, then decide whats important-or own one for 3 years and see if it stays straight.
And on the opposite side of this coin is that there are people that CAN afford expensive cues, buys them, and look down their noses at those that play with inexpensive cues.
And......don't fool yourself into thinking that there aren't members on this forum that feel this way.
Maniac (likes all cues, just thinks some make more sense than others)
cues
I really enjoy all the cues I have ever owned.
No one should needs to be put down for what cue they play with.
MMike
I really enjoy all the cues I have ever owned.
No one should needs to be put down for what cue they play with.
MMike
From my perspective, if you pay $10K and sell for $12K, the cue not only didn't cost you anything, you made $2K profit. If you sell for $10K, it was free.
The difficult part of thinking about cues as investments is that more cues keep being made each year and there appear to be fewer players who want them. The list of cue makers for whom you would not take a loss is narrowing and shifting all the time.
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