Flip This Flip That (Long)

Johnnyt

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Pool related. I watch some of these reality shows that the roots go back to the old horse traders and buy low sell high theory that’s been around for centuries. Shows like House flippers, Car flippers, Pickers, and many others.

Back in 1955 when I was working on my Dad’s ice truck and coal truck for $2 a day I started buying old junk cars and fixing them myself, getting them painted by Earl Shriebe ($19.95), and then flipping them for a nice profit. Actually I began doing it with bikes at around 10 years old. I’d pick old bike frames and bike parts on rubbish day, making one bike out of a few, painting them and selling them. Buy the time I was almost old enough to drive legal (16) I had built a 1940 Merc coupe with a 1954 Caddy engine in it, a fire engine red 1951 Ford Convertible (3/4 race flathead), and a 1951 Indian Chief and 1941 Harley with the past 3 years profits.

I had phony proof at 16 to start going in the bars. At this time the Bar Boxes were in most Long Island, NY bars. It was like the old gold rush days for the better than average pool players. You could keep the table for a few hours a night playing for a $1 and a beer and walk out with a $20 profit most every night. $100 to $140 a week was more than most good blue collar jobs paid back then. Almost all the profit I made on pool for about 25-30 years I bought cars and other stuff at a steal and fix or had them fixed and flipped at a nice profit.

I bought my first Racing Greyhound pup in 1987 with pool winnings. I was lucky. The Greyhound became a stakes racer in Wisconsin making me enough money to buy a litter of 6 more pups. Long story short, when I sold my Greyhound business in 2002 I had almost 200 dogs (about 75 racing around the country), pups, and the #1 sire in the USA. All from a “B” players profits. Johnnyt
 
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great story

Thanks Johnny , I droped by the dog tracks when I was at a pool tournament in the tampa ,fl area .It was my first time watching that ,pretty amazing animals.
 
I watch some of these reality shows that the roots go back to the old horse traders and buy low sell high theory that’s been around for centuries. Shows like House flippers, Car flippers, Pickers, and many others.

Reading the title of this thread and its first couple of sentences, I thought this was gonna be about people buying/selling cues :wink:.

Cool story though, Johnnyt. Thanks for sharing it!!!

Maniac
 
Don't know much about racing, but would you say it's a good investment? Do you need to get lucky to make money at it? Can you go broke trying to get into it?
 
Thanks Johnny , I droped by the dog tracks when I was at a pool tournament in the tampa ,fl area .It was my first time watching that ,pretty amazing animals.

I had many dogs race at Tampa and Derby Lane in ST Pete. Derby Lane was the best dogtrack in the nation for many years. You never knew what sports star, hollywood acters, and of coarse my friend George "The Boss" of the NY Yankees. I sat with Bon Jovi and his crew one night...that was a night to remember. We had Dodgem By Design win a $75,000 stakes race there. Johnnyt
 
Creedo...If you're talking about the dogs, I'd say no, as many of the dog tracks around the country have closed, due to a systematic downturn in business (may or may not be related to gambling laws). Many of the old dog tracks are now casinos with OTB parlors.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Don't know much about racing, but would you say it's a good investment? Do you need to get lucky to make money at it? Can you go broke trying to get into it?
 
Creedo...If you're talking about the dogs, I'd say no, as many of the dog tracks around the country have closed, due to a systematic downturn in business (may or may not be related to gambling laws). Many of the old dog tracks are now casinos with OTB parlors.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Animal rights groups like peta and the indian casinos killed dog racing and have hurt horse racing. That's why I sold out in 2002. Greyhound pups, auction dogs, and farm bills were costing more each year and purses were about half of what they were when I got into it. Johnnyt
 
Thanks for a great personal story.....(MAS, por favor)

That's the kind of "inside" story I like to hear about other AZBers.

Johnnyt learned to hustle at an early age. :yeah:
 
I had many dogs race at Tampa and Derby Lane in ST Pete. Derby Lane was the best dogtrack in the nation for many years. You never knew what sports star, hollywood acters, and of coarse my friend George "The Boss" of the NY Yankees. I sat with Bon Jovi and his crew one night...that was a night to remember. We had Dodgem By Design win a $75,000 stakes race there. Johnnyt

I recall my dad's friend telling me he was in Tijuana years ago and went to the dog track where he was introduced to the city's mayor. The mayor told him dog #3 was going to win the next race. He asked how he knew and the mayor told him the race was fixed. He asked him "How on earth do you fix a dog race?" And the mayor said "Simple, keep the dogs thirsty then just before the race let all but one drink water. The one that doesn't get the water will be the winner."

Always wondered if that was for reals.
 
I recall my dad's friend telling me he was in Tijuana years ago and went to the dog track where he was introduced to the city's mayor. The mayor told him dog #3 was going to win the next race. He asked how he knew and the mayor told him the race was fixed. He asked him "How on earth do you fix a dog race?" And the mayor said "Simple, keep the dogs thirsty then just before the race let all but one drink water. The one that doesn't get the water will be the winner."

Always wondered if that was for reals.

It happens at the smaller dogtracks. But the trainer must be careful that his waterdog isn't over at weigh in. As a dog runs out of the money 3 races in a row he/she drops a grade next time. When he drops its better to know if he is ready to run and if he is breaking from his favorite box. One of the reasons I could take a shot at the Steve Cooks, Buddy Halls, Mike Segal's, and others was because I had an in with dozens of trainers + I knew when mine were ready to pop. It was free money for me. Johnnyt
 
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