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Who had the greatest Break in History?
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He lost his cueball in everyone of these breaks. He scratched once and almost scratched three other times.
You know, I've been around pool a long time and have never seen anyone bust a ball in half, and this guy has done it many times!
Yeah Having worked with pool balls and using them in cues and other projects...he is full of it unless they were clay balls. Modern phenolic balls no way.
For a long time I thought Sigel had the most effective break ever,very nice control,way more often than not he squatted it and made a ball or 2 at 26MPH on the slower cloth,over 100 major titles gives this theory weight in my book.
However,I haven't seen Sigel break 1500 times and only scratch like 20 times where it was the result of a bad stroke either.
The owner of that break was the late Pete Horne.
Of all the players I've ever seen,he was the best at executing this type of break even on diff equipment. His cue ball was typically in a dead straight line and about halfway between the head string and where it contacted the one ball. Bar table,8 footer,or 9,made no difference,the cue ball jumped right at a foot every time,sometimes more,and jumped back and when it came back down it made 2 quick bounces and died like you shot it in the head.
Visually,it looked a lot like Sigel's,and the 2nd break by Chang Yu Long in the link posted at about 6:12. There was almost NO movement,like the cue ball had absolutely zero spin on it.
I give credit where it's due to guys like Corey and Donnie that "created" new ways of getting the job done.
As far as just killing them with some measure of control,Jon Kucharo in the 2000 U.S. Open Youtube vid. The one you see in that vid is what I saw for 2 hours,and rarely did he not make a ball like the vid.
CJ,do you still have that Mace you almost lost at the U.S. Open practice room when it was still at the Holiday Inn? Tommy D.
However,I haven't seen Sigel break 1500 times and only scratch like 20 times where it was the result of a bad stroke either.
The owner of that break was the late Pete Horne.
Of all the players I've ever seen,he was the best at executing this type of break even on diff equipment. His cue ball was typically in a dead straight line and about halfway between the head string and where it contacted the one ball. Bar table,8 footer,or 9,made no difference,the cue ball jumped right at a foot every time,sometimes more,and jumped back and when it came back down it made 2 quick bounces and died like you shot it in the head.
Visually,it looked a lot like Sigel's,and the 2nd break by Chang Yu Long in the link posted at about 6:12. There was almost NO movement,like the cue ball had absolutely zero spin on it.
I give credit where it's due to guys like Corey and Donnie that "created" new ways of getting the job done.
As far as just killing them with some measure of control,Jon Kucharo in the 2000 U.S. Open Youtube vid. The one you see in that vid is what I saw for 2 hours,and rarely did he not make a ball like the vid.
CJ,do you still have that Mace you almost lost at the U.S. Open practice room when it was still at the Holiday Inn? Tommy D.
Nice control on his break, but one of the best in the world? NOT. After all he is using the Magic Rack. Anybody can look good using this. Wu breaks them harder with just as much control.
Yeah Having worked with pool balls and using them in cues and other projects...he is full of it unless they were clay balls. Modern phenolic balls no way.
I have broken modern phenolic balls and documented it on the internet several years ago. There are many people who have seen them.
However, it's clear that after seeing the inside, these balls had internal defects that helped them break. They were never sold to me as "Aramith Premiers" but as "Premiers" in a box that looked just like Aramith Premiers. No question in my mind they were knockoffs. But, I also don't hear of many other people busting their object balls apart like I have.
Freddie <~~~ sucky ass break
Ga Young Kim has a powerful break, probably the purest motion and power result as anyone. She is one of the few women players that can comptet with the men
I have recorded myself at 31 miles and hour on the break app with out jumping the table on a 9 foot diamond. I was hitting them square and smashing the rack. I am a big guy and practiced the break alot.I have never even chipped a ball. I hit everything hard. If I can drill it in the pocket I will. Still never even hurt any pool balls. If yall are breaking pool balls something is wrong with those balls. When you turn pool balls down on the lathe cheap ones tend to be super hard and come off in a powder...but good aramiths have a little more ribbon shaped chip. I think the aramiths are actually a little softer than knock offs. That would be one more thing to keep balls from breaking. You got a video of your pool ball breaking? I would like to see in what conditions it broke. On the Break? Hitting the back of a bar box pocket(most likely way to break them). I went to a place once where one of their bar boxes didn't have pocket liners. It sounded like a gun shot hitting bare metal pocket castings.....balls looked like someone went at them with a hammer lol
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I'm not sure if you're being defensive or something, but that's exactly what I said. There was something wrong with the balls.
Not at all. I agreed. But how did you break them? If on the break your break must not be as sucky as you claim,
Even easier... you can just right click on the slider's button and choose "Copy video url at current time"... I believe it puts the result in seconds, so that's probably what he's doing.
I agree the Magic Rack makes pocketing the balls easier and more consistent, hence you always see multiple balls drop on every break. However, the Magic Rack doesn't make you break harder or your cue ball move less after the break. Chang's break isn't the hardest (but is pretty hard by pro's standards), but it looks like he's only trying to hit it at 50% of his maximum speed. Even then, he hits it pretty hard with as much control as possible. (you get a random kiss by an object ball once in a while, but no one can avoid that).
Again, hardest does not equal best. I bet his break is just as effective without a magic rack.
Videos of breaks
A very good analysis of breaks posted on a forum in China. Goes in depth into break types, styles, and techniques. Is not fixated on "hardest" break, but takes a results oriented approach.
3 part long post:
P1:
http://bbs.bftq.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=55016&extra=page=2
P2: mostly women
http://bbs.bftq.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=55192&extra=
Summary
P3:http://bbs.bftq.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=55424&extra=
Too bad it's only in Chinese. This is the best analysis I've seen anywhere.
A very good analysis of breaks posted on a forum in China. Goes in depth into break types, styles, and techniques. Is not fixated on "hardest" break, but takes a results oriented approach.
3 part long post:
P1:
http://bbs.bftq.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=55016&extra=page=2
P2: mostly women
http://bbs.bftq.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=55192&extra=
Summary
P3:http://bbs.bftq.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=55424&extra=
Too bad it's only in Chinese. This is the best analysis I've seen anywhere.
I think you'd have to consider Corey Deuel.
He changed the rules of 9-ball.
Lots of heavy hitters have been listed but more often than not brains will beat braun.
He changed the rules of 9-ball.
Lots of heavy hitters have been listed but more often than not brains will beat braun.
I only problem is that Corey (as good of a player as he is) hasn't won anything substantial with his soft break. One can even venture to say that his soft break may be a bottleneck.