U.S. Open Checks Bounced???
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AtLarge...To be fair, if the checks were gonna be "good" by yesterday, the Behrmans would have come on here and said so. The fact that they're "silent", even a day after their own self-imposed deadline, speaks volumes, imo. I do hope, for the benefit of Jay and all the other people who are owed money, that the checks do clear, at some point.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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Given the public nature of this issue, including their commitments, I agree that they should do that. Since they have not yet done that, perhaps your conclusion is correct.
Yep, that's right. As long as you have a smartphone and download the app, you are good to go. All you do is take a pic of the front and back, using the app, and it works flawlessly.
Eric >whats next, indoor plumbing??
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On the US Open prize payouts - This is an important topic and needs to be on the front page until resolved.
I have not heard that anyone has gotten paid.
Has anything good happened?
I did hear a disturbing thing: One player tried to get his check Thursday and Friday (after he got knocked out) at the tournament. He was told by Todd (who must have been working for BB that the BCA had not sent the money from player registrations so they could not pay him.
That is a really bad thing to say - because I am quite certain the BCA had sent the players entry fees earlier than that (but I will check).
Either way, they also have not mailed him his check.
This is a bad sign and am hoping to hear what JAY H. has to say - since I am pretty sure his check has been returned NSF by now.
What a friggin' mess.
I do not know the answer but everyone needs to be aware of the current status.
On a side note - what was the purpose of the ABP?????
Mark Griffin
I have not heard that anyone has gotten paid.
Has anything good happened?
I did hear a disturbing thing: One player tried to get his check Thursday and Friday (after he got knocked out) at the tournament. He was told by Todd (who must have been working for BB that the BCA had not sent the money from player registrations so they could not pay him.
That is a really bad thing to say - because I am quite certain the BCA had sent the players entry fees earlier than that (but I will check).
Either way, they also have not mailed him his check.
This is a bad sign and am hoping to hear what JAY H. has to say - since I am pretty sure his check has been returned NSF by now.
What a friggin' mess.
I do not know the answer but everyone needs to be aware of the current status.
On a side note - what was the purpose of the ABP?????
Mark Griffin
Not true, I have no personal knowledge of how the money is moved or what ever.....
Todd
Intent would have to be proven before this is anything but NSF issues... If BB makes the checks good as he has in the past then it's just another chapter in the saga and not the final one....
Based on this issue and several other issues I think many people are trying to make this out as the swan song and maybe they are right.... Or maybe not...
I am betting on a 38th US Open next October....
Based on this issue and several other issues I think many people are trying to make this out as the swan song and maybe they are right.... Or maybe not...
I am betting on a 38th US Open next October....
Not true, I have no personal knowledge of how the money is moved or what ever.....
Todd
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Todd,
This is what a player that I know told me. He has no reason to lie.
If you want to call me, we can go over it.
But this is not made up.
He talked to you Thursday (payment window said open 12-3) and was told to come back (because BCA had not sent the player's money). He came back later Thursday and also Friday. He waited until about noon. He filled out the tax forms, with his address and then left for home. He still has not gotten his check in the mail.
Since he does not 'know' you - I guess it is possible that he has the names mixed up. But I don't think so. He stated it was Todd on both times.
No one is 'blaming you' since you probably did not know anything about the sources of money for payments. But someone told him to come back and bottom line is he has never received his check.
Mark Griffin
702-835-2000 cell
Todd
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Todd,
This is what a player that I know told me. He has no reason to lie.
If you want to call me, we can go over it.
But this is not made up.
He talked to you Thursday (payment window said open 12-3) and was told to come back (because BCA had not sent the player's money). He came back later Thursday and also Friday. He waited until about noon. He filled out the tax forms, with his address and then left for home. He still has not gotten his check in the mail.
Since he does not 'know' you - I guess it is possible that he has the names mixed up. But I don't think so. He stated it was Todd on both times.
No one is 'blaming you' since you probably did not know anything about the sources of money for payments. But someone told him to come back and bottom line is he has never received his check.
Mark Griffin
702-835-2000 cell
Just another reason why checks are so yesterday. When they bounce it causes all sorts of issues for the person who deposited it to the person who didn't have the money.
Go far enough in advance and set up direct deposit accounts and paypal accounts. Allow those who register for the tournament to elect how they would like to be paid. There are many ways to pay people electronically these days. Paypal, Chase Quick Pay, Online Bill Pay services from every bank, Amazon Payments etc....
This whole thing stinks beyond reasonable. Barry has done this dance too long. When I was younger I was SO PROUD to display at the US Open. I made cases for the champions for a couple years and was just in AWE being there.
Back then there were no issues with payments that ever reached the internet that I remember. But in 2001 that all changed.
I was on a plane on the way to the US Open on September 11th 2001. We were forced to land in Kansas City and from there it was clear that we were not going to make it to the US Open so we rented a car and drove back to Denver.
This was the first year that all of us learned that the world "guaranteed" in conjunction with prize money has a different meaning for Barry Behrman than the one commonly understood by the rest of us. The tragedy on 9/11 affected the whole country and the gate at the US Open. That was clear to all of us.
We could even forgive the shortfall of money and somewhat overlook the fact that guaranteed is supposed to mean that the money for prizes is there regardless. But then it kept happening year after year since then with one excuse after another.
We have all sweated the emotional ups and downs of Barry's life these past 11 years. We have all anticipated the coming of the US Open and dreaded what would happen if there was another year of no payments. We have endured the UPA and now the new group saying that they would boycott (they never did) unless the money was posted. We thought that the BCA's involvement had finally solved it.
But no.
This is really ridiculous on so many levels. For the players, for the fans, for the industry people it's simply embarrassing. The US Open is held up as the crown jewel of 9-ball tournaments, the one everyone wants to win. But with it so tainted now it simply leaves a sour taste in my mouth to the point that I don't care about it, who plays or who gets paid. At the end of it why does it matter who wins if all the top players are there with a half-expectation that they won't get paid?
Not that I REALLY care if the players get paid or not, that's between them and Barry. I mean I am sad for my friends if they get stiffed but I get stiffed to from time to time in my business so it's part of life.
What I care about as a fan is being able to enjoy a top notch pool event without the drama and shadow of payment hanging over it. Back in the 90s and up to 2001 I got to enjoy that, the awestruck fan who was lucky enough to go to the United States Open and hang out with the players, soaking up the atmosphere and loving the game being played at the highest level.
Now, it's kind of like rotten fruit. Bummer.
Go far enough in advance and set up direct deposit accounts and paypal accounts. Allow those who register for the tournament to elect how they would like to be paid. There are many ways to pay people electronically these days. Paypal, Chase Quick Pay, Online Bill Pay services from every bank, Amazon Payments etc....
This whole thing stinks beyond reasonable. Barry has done this dance too long. When I was younger I was SO PROUD to display at the US Open. I made cases for the champions for a couple years and was just in AWE being there.
Back then there were no issues with payments that ever reached the internet that I remember. But in 2001 that all changed.
I was on a plane on the way to the US Open on September 11th 2001. We were forced to land in Kansas City and from there it was clear that we were not going to make it to the US Open so we rented a car and drove back to Denver.
This was the first year that all of us learned that the world "guaranteed" in conjunction with prize money has a different meaning for Barry Behrman than the one commonly understood by the rest of us. The tragedy on 9/11 affected the whole country and the gate at the US Open. That was clear to all of us.
We could even forgive the shortfall of money and somewhat overlook the fact that guaranteed is supposed to mean that the money for prizes is there regardless. But then it kept happening year after year since then with one excuse after another.
We have all sweated the emotional ups and downs of Barry's life these past 11 years. We have all anticipated the coming of the US Open and dreaded what would happen if there was another year of no payments. We have endured the UPA and now the new group saying that they would boycott (they never did) unless the money was posted. We thought that the BCA's involvement had finally solved it.
But no.
This is really ridiculous on so many levels. For the players, for the fans, for the industry people it's simply embarrassing. The US Open is held up as the crown jewel of 9-ball tournaments, the one everyone wants to win. But with it so tainted now it simply leaves a sour taste in my mouth to the point that I don't care about it, who plays or who gets paid. At the end of it why does it matter who wins if all the top players are there with a half-expectation that they won't get paid?
Not that I REALLY care if the players get paid or not, that's between them and Barry. I mean I am sad for my friends if they get stiffed but I get stiffed to from time to time in my business so it's part of life.
What I care about as a fan is being able to enjoy a top notch pool event without the drama and shadow of payment hanging over it. Back in the 90s and up to 2001 I got to enjoy that, the awestruck fan who was lucky enough to go to the United States Open and hang out with the players, soaking up the atmosphere and loving the game being played at the highest level.
Now, it's kind of like rotten fruit. Bummer.
To anyone that actually defends BB on the matter, I'd like you to do the following.
Go to dinner at a fancy restaurant. Eat your expensive meal. Then when the check comes, tell them you don't have the money to pay, but you'll be back next week.
See how well that goes over.
Go to dinner at a fancy restaurant. Eat your expensive meal. Then when the check comes, tell them you don't have the money to pay, but you'll be back next week.
See how well that goes over.
Would you bet on whether Barry pays the players on time or not next year?
At this stage, I would not assume there will be a next year.
Hey Tate, not sure that is altogether correct my friend. I believe there are still outstanding checks.
I'm about 75% sure that he was being sarcastic.
US Open checks
So - will some one bring us up to speed?
If the players are paid - let everyone know.
It would be a relief for all of us.
Everyone wants the tradition of this event to go forward - it is an American institution.
By the same token, if the players don't get paid, we need to know that too
Mark Griffin
So - will some one bring us up to speed?
If the players are paid - let everyone know.
It would be a relief for all of us.
Everyone wants the tradition of this event to go forward - it is an American institution.
By the same token, if the players don't get paid, we need to know that too
Mark Griffin
The silence is deafening. Something must be in the works to keep all these lips sealed.
