Frost vs Alex - 1 Pocket Match on Monday for $40,000
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Good for you. Did parts of it hold your attention? Was it thrilling to see the strategies executed by each player or patterns?
When you do watch a match like this, does it benefit your game, or do you watch it more for entertainment?
Is the comaraderie of the folks on the chat window another attraction for watching pool matches like this?
El-ahrairah
Banned
OMG, Fred. I woke up at 4 a.m., EST, and I'm just starting my workday. Have to put in at least 10 hours today, but taking mini breaks on AzBilliards will help me get through today. I'm doing a boring, boring, boring job about stocks, economics, core switching markets, tangible assets, just a bunch of financial crapola.
Cool! What about the free stream did you enjoy the most?
I watched all of it as well
It was mildly entertaining as a whole but had some real intense moments that's for sure.
Alex Pagulayan had control of the table most of the eight hours. Scott Frost did show signs of hope but I think he was just overwhelmed after a 4-0 hole to start.
Both players had good and bad rolls but Pagulayan was definitely the dominant player.
I'd still like to know who put the cash up in the match. My money was on the right guy. Why isn't alex at the us bar table championships, I thought he was sponsored?
I obviously had the opinion alex is a better player than scott is but not that much better
I obviously had the opinion alex is a better player than scott is but not that much better
El-ahrairah
Banned
Cool! What about the free stream did you enjoy the most?
I liked seeing that old school one pocket, played almost perfectly, destroyed power one pocket. I loved seeing Alex play with so much control, it was almost like watching Efren at times.
The kid is becoming a master, and he ripped a champion to shreds with what looked like very little effort.
Me personally, I kind of thought Alex would be the winner. He doesn't fare as well in tournaments, in my opinion, as he does in action. I've seen him win more gambling in pool than in a tournament setting. And what's incredibly cool about Alex is that he does indeed have his fair share of tournament wins, so what does that say about his gambling percentages?
The other thing, too, is the well-known fact that Filipino players can adapt to any equipment. They grew up playing on inferior tables, so when they do have to adjust to a new cloth or pocket sizes, they seem to adapt quickly. This is a trait that most seasoned champions have. Though Alex is young, he's seasoned. The fact that he plays all games is another reason he could be the favorite in any match he engages in.
I don't want to take anything away from Scott Frost. I know he's a one-pocket machine, but he just may have not brought his A game to the table this time.
Alex does have a way of doing that sometimes. I've seen him do it myself at a DCC. The barking before the match took 3 hours, and when the money was right, Alex barbecued his opponent in less than 20 minutes, race to 10, 9-ball, on a bar table with a big cueball, spotting his opponent the 7.
He could have spotted him the 3 and out, and the end result would have been the same.
I'm telling you, the kid can play all games. :grin-square:
Next time somebody has to play Alex, make him wear leather shoes. At a Vegas tournament, I saw Alex in the hallway and asked what was wrong, as he looked down in the dumps. He never mentioned that the loss of the match was bothering him. It was his feet. He was not comfortable shooting pool and wearing leather shoes. 
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Fell asleep with ThinkPad in bed.......
....it snores..:angry:
Alex was just "lucky" and he was getting all the "rolls"..i was reading the chat last night and this is what some guys were saying..lmao..Alex brought his game to a higher level last night and out played Scott.Congratulations POV for a very well done streaming the match.
Whoa. I fell asleep watching it too at about 2 ish.
Apparently the game is off for Friday, I guess 'we'll play at shooters for 2k wasn't clear enough to let the guy know we would be playing at...... Shooters.'
I'll let you know if anything changes.
I watched almost the whole thing. I learned many shots. Thrilling? No, interesting, yes.
Pro matches generally benefit my game when I focus on the match.
Sometimes. Mostly it's borderline juvenile and distracting. I enjoy the actual match much more when I don't have the chat going. Once in while though a good conversation develops but it's rare in my opinion. Also it seems that there are some trolls who frequent every stream and they say the same things to cause controversy which also detracts from the quality of the chats.
Alex does have a way of doing that sometimes. I've seen him do it myself at a DCC. The barking before the match took 3 hours, and when the money was right, Alex barbecued his opponent in less than 20 minutes, race to 10, 9-ball, on a bar table with a big cueball, spotting his opponent the 7.
He could have spotted him the 3 and out, and the end result would have been the same.
I'm telling you, the kid can play all games. :grin-square:
Jam - are you talking about the same match where a handful of guys had to turn the bartable on its side to get the oversized cueball out??
I believe it was upstairs at the exec west. That was a hell of show both on and off the table.
I wouldn't say that Alex's play was all old school. More than Scott's style for sure but Alex took a lot of aggressive shots that worked out well and some that didn't. He gifted Scott at least two games by taking the wrong aggressive shot when he was in the lead. I bet he almost gave Artie a heart attack a couple times.
Scott just didn't show up either. He just never really got into a good rhythm. As for becoming a master, Alex is already a master. He spent years on the road with Corey and Ronnie Wiseman learning all the moves. I saw him beat the 12 ball ghost with NO Ball in Hand after the break at JOB's in 1998.
I know Scott considers himself the best one pocket player in the world but the true fact of is that there are ten or more guys out there that can hang with him all day and night if their own game is on.
I will say this. Scott clearly knows more about the game than Alex. Alex left Scott a lot of shots that he should not have. Scott played a lot of caroms and tickies to virtually none for Alex. A lot of the time Alex just didn't see the shots he was leaving to Scott. Scott's problem was that he wasn't able to really convert the opportunities.
Lastly, Alex is simply a STRAIGHT shooter. He did start to get into a little bit of one-pocket dog stroke towards the end on a few balls but mostly he played with the same fearless shot making ability he is known for. That carried him through a lot of the games when faced with testers. Most of the time he passed the test easily. This started in game one when Scott challenged him with a long backwards cut and Alex shot the eyes out of it.
For me it was a good match even if Scott wasn't at his best. I would't say that Alex dismantled Scott as much as Scott unraveled on his own. Alex is just a very strong and special competitor who has and hopefully always will have the heart of a whole pride of lions.
It is amazing what a free stream can do for pool in a positive way on this forum.
The interest in a free stream 8-ahead 1P match is incredible with the right players, and in my opinion some large sponsors should take note.
The match started 10-hours ago with a lot of viewers, and people are still up talking about it.
The so-called mainstream sporting events rarely get that much interest.
The interest in a free stream 8-ahead 1P match is incredible with the right players, and in my opinion some large sponsors should take note.
The match started 10-hours ago with a lot of viewers, and people are still up talking about it.
The so-called mainstream sporting events rarely get that much interest.