Why are people riled up about what is in what forum? Seriously there are more important things to worry about in life so grow up!
Main Forum = CJ Wiley Forum now?
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We HAVE a bingo!
I think some people would complain if they got hung with a new rope.
IMO, Touch of Inside = Ton of Insight, and I don't give a rodent's butt where it should or shouldn't be discussed.
I don't think you need too very much tenure with AZBF, there is more incite than insight.
MAYBE there should be a subforum for non pool related stuff,
wait,
wait for it,
There already is one! Huh... Politics and religion... go figr.
I'm of the opinion that you can just ignore them. I click on some of them when I'm interested. Some people are just too busy policing others to live their own lives. I have learned long ago to stop monitoring others and to live my own life. Also, I do enjoy hearing from the pros; I respect their opinions and usually give them a lil more weight than others.
Yep, and yer pretty good at that lately so keep em coming. I find that I click on the Funny thread the first thing after I log on.
The rest of the threads can be read later. I always need my morning chuckle.
You haven't noticed, that CJ has found a way to circumvent the "Aiming System Forum"...He has done it by posting, looooong posts, about 22 hrs a day...His 'Media Blitz" is incomparable...He has become a "Justin Beiber like" Idol, for all the 'Tweeners, and Bangers on the site...Which sadly seem to comprise, about 95% of the membership here at AZJC Billiard's.
He has even captivated a few adult members, right John B. ?...To all the people who think Mr Wiley may be OVERDOING it just a tad..I say, it may be over soon..Yes, Mr. Wiley is feeling his oats, and has begun issuing challenge's, to ALL the top level player's...He is starting to brag a little bit like Bill Stroud, when he first came out of retirement..Bill soon found out, that hey..some of these youngster's play pretty f-ing good !!!
CJ appears headed down that same road, if not moreso !...He MAY find out there are guy's half his age, that may very well, destroy him..Even with him having the unfair advantage of using "TOI"..Stay tuned ! :boring2:
I'll be curious to see how it all comes out...(But I think its safe to say It won't be streamed on TAR !!!
I am sending him a good book...
I don't think he's read it !!..
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Who's goose?
lol, yeah, that reference might have been a tad obscure. I was thinking of the opening speech from "Patton" where he's standing in front of the giant flag and at the end he says, "We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're going to go through him like crap through a goose."
We run a lot of that through the goose here
Lou Figueroa
Though I disagree with some of this, I do agree with some of it, too. This rebuttal to CJ's large volume of certain types of posting on this forum was very well presented. If most posters would sincerely take the time to put down their opinions as well as you have, sir/ma'am, without the snide comments, this forum would be much easier to navigate. Tap, Tap, Tap!
Best,
Mike
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Perfectly written, my opinion exactly..cheers..
The issue is not one of love or hate, and no one can dispute his past accomplishments, or the value of whatever he is teaching. The only point that was originally brought up, and stated as an opinion/question in a respectful way was whether others also felt that CJ was going too far in continually jumping into threads, often with a comment that had a tenuous, or no, connection to the subject matter and clearly was only using this as a vehicle to promote his products.
This was not an attack on him, his system or his abilities as a player (although some tried to make it that, including CJ). It was simply a gentle reminder that the main forum should not become an infomercial for him or anyone else. Several have pointed out that a suitable venue(s) exist to get his message across within the AZ forums that were set up for just that.
CJ had stated that when he first started posting here, that making and selling his DVDs were not his intention.
I had wondered that when the milk cow had dried up, would he still be here.
And that was based on one player that showed up a couple of times looking for Mosconi Cup votes and not ever participating in
any further AZ threads. And another that shows up once in a while asking for donations to a tournament and to sell his books and dvds. Then poof, he is gone also.
If his statement is true, then he will still be here for the long run after his sales have slowed up and thats a good thing.
I have never complained about a player making a few bucks from his knowledge gained. It probably took many players a considerable amount of money and many times money lost to gain that knowledge of the game.
If a person wants to share that and make a few dollars doing it, then fair game and better for us. Its not like they are going to make a million on dvd sales so its just a way of recouping their expenses.
My issue with CJ wasn't anything more than his presentation that rubbed me the wrong way and in hind sight, I should have just kept my mouth shut because it clearly bothered him and it shouldn't have been a problem for me that I would hurt someones feelings over it.
And for that, I apologize to you CJ.
I had wondered that when the milk cow had dried up, would he still be here.
And that was based on one player that showed up a couple of times looking for Mosconi Cup votes and not ever participating in
any further AZ threads. And another that shows up once in a while asking for donations to a tournament and to sell his books and dvds. Then poof, he is gone also.
If his statement is true, then he will still be here for the long run after his sales have slowed up and thats a good thing.
I have never complained about a player making a few bucks from his knowledge gained. It probably took many players a considerable amount of money and many times money lost to gain that knowledge of the game.
If a person wants to share that and make a few dollars doing it, then fair game and better for us. Its not like they are going to make a million on dvd sales so its just a way of recouping their expenses.
My issue with CJ wasn't anything more than his presentation that rubbed me the wrong way and in hind sight, I should have just kept my mouth shut because it clearly bothered him and it shouldn't have been a problem for me that I would hurt someones feelings over it.
And for that, I apologize to you CJ.
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This is 100% accurate!
Does Life, Forums, Games, change, or do they stay the same?
Our pool game, minds, and bodies are never the same. Life is always changing, and once we accept this reality, and are willing to understand how to make the adjustments we can turn this into an advantage.
I see players start out really well in a match, however, they are not hitting the center of the pocket on their shots. They may be over cutting or under cutting slightly, and it's usually predictable after a few games. If they don't know how to adjust for those "near misses" they soon turn into total misses.
This will tend to shake someone up, it's like "I was playing so well, then suddenly I couldn't make a ball," however the truth of the matter is it wasn't "suddenly" they had the "tell tail signs" earlier and didn't pay attention or wasn't watching the object ball go into the pocket.
When I contact the cue ball, I immediately watch the object ball go into the pocket to see what part of the pocket it's contacting. The cue ball is the primary target, so you have to aim carefully at the cue ball. The pocket reflects how you hit the cue ball so you must get the feedback from the pocket or you're "playing in the dark," and sooner or later it will have an impact......and never a good one.
I make "micro adjustments" with my cue ball "Tip Target" until it aligns perfectly with my "Pocket Target". This calibration is something that must consistently be done to keep from having "ups and downs" in my performance AND my confidence. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Our pool game, minds, and bodies are never the same. Life is always changing, and once we accept this reality, and are willing to understand how to make the adjustments we can turn this into an advantage.
I see players start out really well in a match, however, they are not hitting the center of the pocket on their shots. They may be over cutting or under cutting slightly, and it's usually predictable after a few games. If they don't know how to adjust for those "near misses" they soon turn into total misses.
This will tend to shake someone up, it's like "I was playing so well, then suddenly I couldn't make a ball," however the truth of the matter is it wasn't "suddenly" they had the "tell tail signs" earlier and didn't pay attention or wasn't watching the object ball go into the pocket.
When I contact the cue ball, I immediately watch the object ball go into the pocket to see what part of the pocket it's contacting. The cue ball is the primary target, so you have to aim carefully at the cue ball. The pocket reflects how you hit the cue ball so you must get the feedback from the pocket or you're "playing in the dark," and sooner or later it will have an impact......and never a good one.
I make "micro adjustments" with my cue ball "Tip Target" until it aligns perfectly with my "Pocket Target". This calibration is something that must consistently be done to keep from having "ups and downs" in my performance AND my confidence. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Tap for Rufus!! I agree!!!!
We teach people how to make every shot on the table seem the same.
Since reading this post I started being more aware of the topics on the main forum, and you are exactly right, many don't have much at all to do with pool.
Listen, anyone that says the TOUCH OF INSIDE (TOI) is an aiming system hasn't even looked into it. Saying TOI is an aiming system is like saying that a pool cue is an aiming system, or a pendulum stroke is an aiming system.
We teach people how to make every shot on the table seem the same. I do this by getting them to understand how to use the same speed, create the same angle relative to a consistent set up and also hit the cue ball slightly on the same side of center - TOI (low/high/medium).
This is how to play a highly advance style of pool, one that can produce effective results and without practicing 6-8 hours a day. There's no reason to have to practice that much if you have good fundamentals. It's like eating 6 hours a day, it's just a waste of time, you can do what you need in one hour. 'The Inner Game is the Teacher'
Since reading this post I started being more aware of the topics on the main forum, and you are exactly right, many don't have much at all to do with pool.
Listen, anyone that says the TOUCH OF INSIDE (TOI) is an aiming system hasn't even looked into it. Saying TOI is an aiming system is like saying that a pool cue is an aiming system, or a pendulum stroke is an aiming system.
We teach people how to make every shot on the table seem the same. I do this by getting them to understand how to use the same speed, create the same angle relative to a consistent set up and also hit the cue ball slightly on the same side of center - TOI (low/high/medium).
This is how to play a highly advance style of pool, one that can produce effective results and without practicing 6-8 hours a day. There's no reason to have to practice that much if you have good fundamentals. It's like eating 6 hours a day, it's just a waste of time, you can do what you need in one hour. 'The Inner Game is the Teacher'
Now that may just be the quote of the day, THNX CJ!
Well...I'm glad he did not use a sex analogy & talk minutes instead of hours.:wink: