Pre-pub special, Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers

All right, you got me with that photo. I want No. 72. Reserve it. :cool:

On my way to PayPal now. :smile:
 
I am going to take pity on everybody and post the only known pic of King the Wonder Dog. As you can see, he is in pretty fast company. At that time King was probably more famous than Ronnie. It is hard to tell in the photo, but King is wearing sun-glasses, like the celebrity that he was.

Beard

What we havent even talked about Jay, is that King not only could do everything we said he could, he could also stall, to drag in suckers and naysayers. He would screw up some bets in order to catch guys like Lou. He would act goofy and grab the wrong ball for the small bets. Only when Jerry would give him the "George" office would King come off the stall and take down the money.

King would put a plow on Clever Hans' ass and have him plow out Jerry's back yard.


Between you and Jay, King's exploits seem to be getting more and more fanciful... any moment I expect one of you guys to claim he'd go into the kitchen and make everyone at the pool hall Eggs Benedict, though dogs clock out at the intellectual level of a 2 year old.

Freddy, you've just admitted that Jerry would give the dog "the office" when he wanted him to get the trick right. IOW, a signal. You have busted yourselves.

Lou Figueroa
 
Between you and Jay, King's exploits seem to be getting more and more fanciful... any moment I expect one of you guys to claim he'd go into the kitchen and make everyone at the pool hall Eggs Benedict, though dogs clock out at the intellectual level of a 2 year old.

Freddy, you've just admitted that Jerry would give the dog "the office" when he wanted him to get the trick right. IOW, a signal. You have busted yourselves.

Lou Figueroa

I never claimed King was clairvoyant. He didn't read Jerry's mind. If I am coaching a human being pool player, I do have to tell him what to shoot.

Beard

(baseless rhetoric, and clever satire is not going to advance your point)

By the way, thanks Lou. Looks like your bull-headed skepticism has sold me a few more books!:thumbup:
 
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I never claimed King was clairvoyant. He didn't read Jerry's mind. If I am coaching a human being pool player, I do have to tell him what to shoot.

Beard

(baseless rhetoric, and clever satire is not going to advance your point)

By the way, thanks Lou. Looks like your bull-headed skepticism has sold me a few more books!:thumbup:


You're welcome, Freddy! Happy to be of soy-viss.

Lou Figueroa
looking forward
to mine
 
Between you and Jay, King's exploits seem to be getting more and more fanciful... any moment I expect one of you guys to claim he'd go into the kitchen and make everyone at the pool hall Eggs Benedict, though dogs clock out at the intellectual level of a 2 year old.

Freddy, you've just admitted that Jerry would give the dog "the office" when he wanted him to get the trick right. IOW, a signal. You have busted yourselves.

Lou Figueroa

Lou sometimes you just got to believe somebody, everybody dont tell lies!
 
Between you and Jay, King's exploits seem to be getting more and more fanciful... any moment I expect one of you guys to claim he'd go into the kitchen and make everyone at the pool hall Eggs Benedict, though dogs clock out at the intellectual level of a 2 year old.

Freddy, you've just admitted that Jerry would give the dog "the office" when he wanted him to get the trick right. IOW, a signal. You have busted yourselves.

Lou Figueroa

Hell, the fact that the dog could react and stall to signals is an impressive feat all by itself!
 
Agreed. But you have to admit some of these guys should not go to a Penn & Teller show in Vegas :-)

Lou Figueroa

Well not with you. You're the guy in the audience ruining the show by telling everyone you know how the trick is done whether you actually do or not.
 
There is no question that King was a very well trained dog. That's a fact. But he was way beyond the point where Jerry needed hand signals to guide him. Simple voice commands were all it took to get King to do his thing. If I said fourteen ball, then King would grab it in his mouth and bring it to me. So there is also no question that King recognized the color and design of the various pool balls. That's also a fact!

Like so many others, I was there to witness it. King was one special animal who had been trained to do many tricks that were far different than the ones you see the dogs on TV or in the circus doing. I suspect some of those dogs could have been taught to do similar things, but perhaps that was not what their trainer wanted to teach them. I'm not an animal trainer so I don't know what it takes to teach a dog to do tricks like this. But I do know this, Freddie is not exaggerating in any way when he talks about King. Like Freddie, I put him one speed above any other dog I ever saw perform, whether on television or in a circus.
 
There is no question that King was a very well trained dog. That's a fact. But he was way beyond the point where Jerry needed hand signals to guide him. Simple voice commands were all it took to get King to do his thing. If I said fourteen ball, then King would grab it in his mouth and bring it to me. So there is also no question that King recognized the color and design of the various pool balls. That's also a fact!

Like so many others, I was there to witness it. King was one special animal who had been trained to do many tricks that were far different than the ones you see the dogs on TV or in the circus doing. I suspect some of those dogs could have been taught to do similar things, but perhaps that was not what their trainer wanted to teach them. I'm not an animal trainer so I don't know what it takes to teach a dog to do tricks like this. But I do know this, Freddie is not exaggerating in any way when he talks about King. Like Freddie, I put him one speed above any other dog I ever saw perform, whether on television or in a circus.


"What the horse had been doing, proposed Pfungst, was to take ques either from his trainer or from other people in the room. Hans was able to spot very subtle movements such as a minute nod of the head and to detect the tension experienced by everyone in the room as he approached the correct answer.

Scientists since have discovered that horses (and dogs) can detect the heartbeat of someone standing nearby. As Clever Hans drew close to correct answer an increase in everyone's heartbeat indicated the place for him to stop tapping his hoof."

from: http://www.kbrhorse.net/tra/hans.html

Lou Figueroa
 
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