This is why I don't like to play for money!!! ...

8onthebreak said:
I stopped into the pool hall tonight at like 11pm after a corporate party with the higher-ups. I'm practicing and my line of sight is off...missing everything by a hair...

I figure, no biggie, I'll come around...I always do.

A guy wants to play for money...I say sure...
8 ball? I say...
He sais , sure...race to 5 for $50...sounds good to me so we start.

We play our set, I beat him 5/3 ...and 2 of the 3 games he won were where I ran out and tanked the 8... I'm playing as bad as I can play, so I'm playing smart and controlling the table. A lot of defense.

He pays the 50.
I say I'm done...gotta work tomorrow. Nice playing. It's 1AM ...I GOTTA WORK AT 8.

This is where it goes where you think it's going...

He and his entourage peanut gallery start complaining...saying...so that's how it's done...your not gonna play anymore? , they are being assholes. I say...I gotta work...ey keep at it as I'm unscrewing my cues.

I say, really, does $50 bucks really mean that much to you? I make that every ***edited :-)....REALLY???

He keeps flapping...so I offer to play him for a little more next Thursday, up the bet some, make it worth my while, ( Thursday is my 1 night a week to play) he sais he's only in town for like 3 days.
I explain I gotta work, he doesn't understand...I explain that people that live in Myrtle Beach aren't all like jimmy buffet. We work. I also explain to him that he probably doesn't want anymore of this, since he couldn't even give me a game and I'm dogging 8's...playing like a donkey...what happens when I wake up????????
Another set would put us into 2:30-3am ...can't do.

When is a good time to end a set...they're never happy when u gotta go cuz you have their money. So you have to play until they finally win it back????

I've never had someone hand over cash happily and not ***** that its over. I feel like throwing the measly $50 back at him and saying...fill your tank 1/2 way up.

SO FRUSTRATING...where's the fun in gambling???
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Discuss everything before you start playing,so there's no misconceptions
later on in the night.Communication is the key,to most things in life.
 
TRWpool said:
I read fine Mr. Lunch Money,
Maybe you should reread your own initial post. When did you ever say in your thread that you agreed to play "A SET" Answer: NEVER. That's when. Maybe the guy you were playing didn't hear you very well. Was that it? If as you say you agreed to play "A SET" then why did you have to say anything more? You would have simply told him that you had agreed to play ONE SET. Done, finished, going home, thanks for the game. Instead you tell him all about having to go to work in the morning and that it's to late to play any more. YOu tell us the same thing. If you agreed to play "A SET" you wouldn't have had to say any of that. You are simply digging yourself a hole. Just admit it. You acted like a jerk. Just say you will learn from it and try to do better the next time.

You were not held hostage. You quit. You are allowed to quit. That didn't make what you did right. You acted like a nit and that's OK you are allowed to be a Nit. The question is; Do you want to stay a Nit or grow out of it? Why do you insist on making lame excuses for yourself?

To answer your question, not that it is any of your business or that it has any bearing on this topic. I am now retired from a career in retail sales. And to make it clear, if I started a money game with someone late at night knowing that I needed my beauty sleep to function early the next morning like you, I wouldn't have gotten involved in the first place or at the minimum I would have made it clear to my opponent how long I can play. It is called common decency.

I answered your question now you can answer mine. You said in your original post that you felt like throwing the $50 back at him, but you didn't. Why not give him a shot at his cheese by offering to play him one game or a 2 out of 3 set for it and get it over with? You didn't do that either did you?

Still playing the victim? :frown:
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So you don't have a job?!?!?!
Don't have to be to work in the morning?
How in the world could I ask you to understand?

How did I guess that?

So, MR professional gambler who knows all the rules of the world,
Should everyone on here expect you to offer the same criticizing advice when the next thing comes up?

My advice to you...unless you have something to offer constructively, don't post. The forum doesn't need another jerk.

Ps, I'm no victim, I won...remember
 
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ShootingArts said:
A wee hours post:



. . . and twenty-five minutes later:



One of many all similar posts:




Need I say more?

Hu
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Hu,

It aint the wee hours, if you been paying any attention you would know i'm in Europe 6 hours ahead of your ass,

Second i'm sorry i pissed you off with Smorg, he passed, i apologized profusely about what happened,

can you let it go, ?

we spoke on the phone you sounded like a good guy, when we bought Terry a laptop, remember? then this shit,

WTF man,

as always Kindest Regards, i wsh you the very best

you never played pool for $$$??

Eric

Wee hours of the morning LOL the Methylprednisolone must be getting to you...I remember that from the telemarketing days, nice old people who would pop up having a bad day from the side effects, i'll just chalk this up to that, getting old aint easy.... hang in there buddy
 
Hu,

Shooting Arts is taking me joking about drug use out of context, I got $1,000,000 for anyone who can ever prove I have smoked weed, done any recreational dope at all, I did roods, love them. Hell i never smoked a cigarette i barly drink. yeah i popped a million pills durning my 5 back operations, i stopped that shit years ago, i havent been "high" on pain pills in 4.5 years.


then this senile guy with a beef takes shit out of context and makes great posts, using 4 year old threads of mine.

here is some more ammo for you later, "I'm off to buy some blow, got to get in stroke". I'm upset and cant sleep, gonna take a handful of Xanax and dring a beer to go to sleep" "Got a great deal on a Kg of weed today in LA, anyone want to share?'"

theree Hu use those later, need more let me know, i'll give you all fictions info you can quote me on anytime, genius.

good job Hu,

I make jokes here or post quality posts, you know about gambling, was i wrong in what i said?

best
eric
 
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tommyceilings said:
Here he comes ladies and gentlemen, from parts unknown, the man who never met a thread he couldn't derail, the man who has always done something one more time than you, the man who will ask how much money you have on you and then ask to play for $1 more than you have.

Fatboy.

Thanks for this thread about everyone's no playin asses. Didn't you offend the entire community a year ago and say you were done with pool, only to return like nothing happened. Now you're back with the insults.
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i was done a year ago, that was then this is now, so deal with it. want some?
 
8onthebreak said:
So you don't have a job?!?!?!
Don't have to be to work in the morning?
How in the world could I ask you to understand?

How did I guess that?

So, MR professional gambler who knows all the rules of the world,
Should everyone on here expect you to offer the same criticizing advice when the next thing comes up?

My advice to you...unless you have something to offer constructively, don't post. The forum doesn't need another jerk.

Ps, I'm no victim, I won...remember
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Nope I sure dont, got millions, sleep til i want to and life is good. Enjoy trading hours for dollars, let me know how that works out for you-in another 20 years LOL
 
TRWpool said:
You were not held hostage. You quit. You are allowed to quit. That didn't make what you did right. You acted like a nit and that's OK you are allowed to be a Nit. The question is; Do you want to stay a Nit or grow out of it? Why do you insist on making lame excuses for yourself?

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The only nit is the guy who lost. He's a gambler, he bet, he lost. I laugh at these so called "rules" of gambling, especially with pool players being experts at the 'dump", the "shark", the "set up", the "hustle", but god forbid if you quit when it gets late....and you did NOT allow him to win his money back. sorry, gambling is gambling, and if you lose, too bad. Maybe he dumped the first set to jack the bet... oh well, looks like his little plan fell apart...


He don't like it, too friggin bad. Tell him to win next time, cause only Nits cry when they lose. Others pay up, and match up next time.
 
TheMarsMan said:
No, it hasn't changed that much, people who really gamble don't quit after they have won a set.

To the people who say you should just keep playing until you are back to even that isn't even close to what we are talking about.

If you are better than your opponent why would you quit winner unless you had other plans? If you have other plans then you should of known that before you started and let them know beforehand. This is just common courtesy and what anyone should do.

I have had an emergency come up while I was winning against someone and I agreed to play them again whenever they were available, I even offered to let them hold the money until we played again. As it turns out we played later in the week and I won three more sets.

I can honestly say I can't remember the last time someone had me stuck and quit me winner, I know it has happened but it is rare. There have been plenty of times where I have been stuck and didn't want to play anymore so I quit. There has been times where I have quit after one set when I could see I was in a very bad game.

All of this can change when players are being staked though. One time I was staking a player at Derby and we won a set for 4K, they didn't want to play another set so I gave the player his cut and we went to bed. The next day they wanted to play another set but the player that I had staked wasn't willing to put his share back in action. I wasn't willing to lose the next set and break even on sets but I would be the only one losing money. I guess the moral of the story is if you are going to play another set play right away and don't wait until the money is split up.
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Now here is a gentleman who gambles big, bigger than me sometimes and knows his way around. John Mars is among the best action in pool on many levels, he knows me better than any of the knockers here and what he thinks and KNOWS about is 100X more important than Hu or Tommy the knockers who just want to piss me off, If John Mars knocked me or got pissed at me, i'd take it to heart and look at my self in the mirror and wonder how did I screw up?? why, because he is the real deal. the rest of you clowns who irritate me are like bed bugs, they irritate you but are harmless. And will lose in the end, like all bugs do....


Glad you guys had your fun, I;m done with this thread, as i have nothing else to say about gambling to anyone here except "POST", thats all i have to say, except to John Mars, were going to dinner and solve the worlds problems over a steak....


see you soon John, I'll be your way this summer for sure,

best
eric:smile:
 
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8onthebreak said:
So you don't have a job?!?!?!
Don't have to be to work in the morning?
How in the world could I ask you to understand?
How did I guess that?

So, MR professional gambler who knows all the rules of the world,
Should everyone on here expect you to offer the same criticizing advice when the next thing comes up?

My advice to you...unless you have something to offer constructively, don't post. The forum doesn't need another jerk.

Ps, I'm no victim, I won...remember
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Are you that much of an idiot?
Because I happen to now be retired that excludes me from understanding about the need to get to work the next day? ARE YOU SERIOUS? I've spent 45 years on the job my friend. I supplemented my income playing pool after work most every night and yet I never pulled the crap you pulled the other night nor did I try to justify it to anyone the way you insist on doing here. I don't understand? I think more and more everyone here understands.

As far as offering something constructive in the way of advice, what do you think I am doing with my time writing all this. Do you think you alone are worth the effort to just give you a hard time? I don't even know you except for the insight into your weak charactor you have chosen to display and defend. No, I thought that you and others would see the fact that you were not playing in a casino against house money. You were playing another person who was willing to give you a gamble and with that you owe him a tiny bit of respect which you yourself admitted you denied him when you said "you didn't consider how he felt about it, you were going home."This could have been real simple on your part had you just owned up to the fact that you were in the wrong with this fellow you played. I would have thought of you as a man.

Not a victim? You are the worst kind of vicim. You are a victim of your own making. You won $50 buck. Wonderful, was it worth it?

Have a nice day, Lunch Money,:smile:

Tom
 
Had a guy quit me winner one time and I started whining,here are his words and I have never forgot them."you started the same time I did" I didn't like it at the time but It did make some sense after I thought about it.John B.
 
8onthebreak said:
So you don't have a job?!?!?!
Don't have to be to work in the morning?
How in the world could I ask you to understand?

How did I guess that?

So, MR professional gambler who knows all the rules of the world,
Should everyone on here expect you to offer the same criticizing advice when the next thing comes up?

My advice to you...unless you have something to offer constructively, don't post. The forum doesn't need another jerk.

Ps, I'm no victim, I won...remember
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You say you want something constructive, but yet you get mad at people's opinions. You sure you just don't want someone to agree with you. To people who gamble, there is a code of ethics, or "gamblers etiquette". As someone previously stated it is just common decency. You know your schedule before you got into the set. To give your opponent the heads up that you have a time limit and can only play for a little while. Something like " just to let you know, I have to get up early, so I can only play maybe 1 or 2 sets depending how long it takes."

Just a little common courtesy goes a long way.
 
John Brumback said:
Had a guy quit me winner one time and I started whining,here are his words and I have never forgot them."you started the same time I did" I didn't like it at the time but It did make some sense after I thought about it.John B.
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Now that makes sense :)
 
I didn't bother reading all the replies but a few things stand out:

if you say lets play a set to x for y, after that set is done we are technically done and I don't owe you anything, as long as no one broke their word;

and most importantly SOMEONE is going to end up a winner so tough shit for the one who lost, don't gamble what you can't afford (or stand) to lose and too bad if it's part of your "hustle" some business dealings just blow up in your face sometimes.
 
thepavlos said:
I didn't bother reading all the replies but a few things stand out:

if you say lets play a set to x for y, after that set is done we are technically done and I don't owe you anything, as long as no one broke their word;

and most importantly SOMEONE is going to end up a winner so tough shit for the one who lost, don't gamble what you can't afford (or stand) to lose and too bad if it's part of your "hustle" some business dealings just blow up in your face sometimes.
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yes everyone has the right to quit at ANY time. And the loser should just pay up.
But, in the same respect a little heads up never hurt anyone. If i had been the one to lose in this situation, I would have just payed up and if he ever wanted to play again, I would be very forward about asking how long he was going to play, or how many sets he had.
Some of us don't want to play someone who is only going to play one set, and if given the choice we just might have chose not to play.
 
instroke75 said:
yes everyone has the right to quit at ANY time. And the loser should just pay up.
But, in the same respect a little heads up never hurt anyone. If i had been the one to lose in this situation, I would have just payed up and if he ever wanted to play again, I would be very forward about asking how long he was going to play, or how many sets he had.
Some of us don't want to play someone who is only going to play one set, and if given the choice we just might have chose not to play.
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Exactly and I agree with you. If someone says let's play a set, in my mind that doesn't mean we keep playing after the set and I can't take offense if you only want to play one set, but like you said, more clarification would never hurt before people begin.
 
full of baloney as always

Fatboy said:
Hu,

It aint the wee hours, if you been paying any attention you would know i'm in Europe 6 hours ahead of your ass,

Second i'm sorry i pissed you off with Smorg, he passed, i apologized profusely about what happened,

can you let it go, ?

we spoke on the phone you sounded like a good guy, when we bought Terry a laptop, remember? then this shit,

WTF man,

as always Kindest Regards, i wsh you the very best

you never played pool for $$$??

Eric

Wee hours of the morning LOL the Methylprednisolone must be getting to you...I remember that from the telemarketing days, nice old people who would pop up having a bad day from the side effects, i'll just chalk this up to that, getting old aint easy.... hang in there buddy
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As usual you are full of "baloney" to put it nicely. First, you have no clue concerning anything about me, especially medications. I have no clue what the med is you are talking about and don't care. The usual cheap shot from you just like the cheap shot earlier in this thread when you were jacked up on something I'm sure. As far as gambling on pool, I have gambled for more money at one shot and more often than you ever have. I stil say tough shlt if the other guy quits on me after one bet. Matter of fact, I can only remember a single full time gambler that didn't pull up in a hurry. A few more might have been making a living gambling, I don't know. Of those that I know were making a living gambling every one of them would pull up in a hurry win or lose when they found out they were in a very tough match-up. People who gamble to eat and pay bills don't gamble foolishly, basically they don't gamble.

This the same fatboy that used to claim he was making $12,000 a day and then was posting about choking when he played sets for a few hundred? You are the one that puts your business on the forum about smoking crack, abusing prescription drugs, and choking like a dog on a chicken bone when he played for what should have been pocket change for you.

I have actually been very nice to just remain silent while you rewrite your personal history over and over. Anyone that bothers to do a search can read contradiction after contradiction you have written. Not saying you are either one but you have something in common with every congenital and habitual liar I have ever known. You can't remember what you said three months ago and think nobody else can or will either.

You forget all the filth you have written to me too. Regardless of what you did to a dying man even after I told you that the problem you were making light of was one of his lesser problems, I wouldn't pee on somebody that was on fire after they talked to me like that. Not you, not anybody else. I never forget what a two-faced person you are posting one thing on the net and acting the opposite in PM's and other personal messages either.

If you really want to bring up old history we can. Are you really foolish enough to want to do that?

edit: Same time he wrote the above in public he sent me this rep note:

hu i aint eerdone dope in my life take a joke out of context, you are a jack off of the first order bet a million and ill prove i aint even smoked weed once
Hu
 
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I am the guy you played

Really guy? You must be crazy. You are blowing this hole thing way out of proportion. I was not mad at all. You quit me because you said you weren't playing well. Stating "that was only about 30% of my game." I offered to play you in 8 or 9 ball for 50-100 a set cause you looked to be struggling while practicing and i didnt think you would play for more than that. You are the one that chose the set to be for $50 and you never said anything about only playing one set. You probably realized I was dumping the set to try an get you to play for more money. Which if that is the case then I don't blame you, I probably would do the same thing and quit. Then you assumed I was upset because I said "oh we are only playing one set, I guess that's how it is done here." You tried to make it seem like the money wasn't an issue by boasting something like I make $50 every half hour. To which I stated "if you wanted to play for more all you had to do was ask.". See people like you is why there is no more gamble in pool in the state of sc. You can go on here and act all cool and make me seem like I was out of line all you want if it makes you feel better about yourself. Btw you would never hear a good pool player tell anyone "that was only 30 percent of my game.". I had to turn away so you didn't see me laugh. Anyway good set, you got my $50. Glad I could make you feel better. Guess that is one less half hour you have to work before you can retire.
 
ShootingArts said:
As usual you are full of "baloney" to put it nicely. First, you have no clue concerning anything about me, especially medications. I have no clue what the med is you are talking about and don't care. The usual cheap shot from you just like the cheap shot earlier in this thread when you were jacked up on something I'm sure. As far as gambling on pool, I have gambled for more money at one shot and more often than you ever have. I stil say tough shlt if the other guy quits on me after one bet. Matter of fact, I can only remember a single full time gambler that didn't pull up in a hurry. A few more might have been making a living gambling, I don't know. Of those that I know were making a living gambling every one of them would pull up in a hurry win or lose when they found out they were in a very tough match-up. People who gamble to eat and pay bills don't gamble foolishly, basically they don't gamble.

This the same fatboy that used to claim he was making $12,000 a day and then was posting about choking when he played sets for a few hundred? You are the one that puts your business on the forum about smoking crack, abusing prescription drugs, and choking like a dog on a chicken bone when he played for what should have been pocket change for you.

I have actually been very nice to just remain silent while you rewrite your personal history over and over. Anyone that bothers to do a search can read contradiction after contradiction you have written. Not saying you are either one but you have something in common with every congenital and habitual liar I have ever known. You can't remember what you said three months ago and think nobody else can or will either.

You forget all the filth you have written to me too. Regardless of what you did to a dying man even after I told you that the problem you were making light of was one of his lesser problems, I wouldn't pee on somebody that was on fire after they talked to me like that. Not you, not anybody else. I never forget what a two-faced person you are posting one thing on the net and acting the opposite in PM's and other personal messages either.

If you really want to bring up old history we can. Are you really foolish enough to want to do that?

edit: Same time he wrote the above in public he sent me this rep note:

hu i aint eerdone dope in my life take a joke out of context, you are a jack off of the first order bet a million and ill prove i aint even smoked weed once
Hu
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I made $175,000 a week, get your math right. Want to see my tax returns? I paid more in taxes than you ever will make. But thats besides the point, lets take this private-show some class, or did you lose that too?
 
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