What Is Hohmann's 30 ball run= to in

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Johnnyt

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I watched Hohmann's 30 ball run in bonus ball and was trying to figure out what that would be = to in 14.1, 9 ball, or 10 ball. BB is such a new game it's hard to figure out. I'm thinking it's = to a 70 ball run in 14.1, a 5 pack in 9 ball, and a 4 pack in 10 ball. What do you all think its = to? Johnnyt
 
I think its less. Maybe a 2 pack in 9 ball.

As the season goes on, we will see how often it happens. The exact scenario won't happen unless the teams are tied, but the closest one would be singles matches where one player runs out the game.

Once we know how common running out a complete game is, I think we will be able to draw comparisons to running out a rack of 9 ball, etc.
 
The pockets are obviously quite tight on that table as well so I think that has to be factored in to the difficulty. The game is so different I think it's hard to quantify in terms of comparing it to other games. As others have stated I think we'll need more data from upcoming WPBL matches to make a better determination, but a 30 point (not ball) run on those tables seems fairly difficult given the sequences and 3 pocket rules. I think it's a lot harder than a 9 ball 2-pack probably.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I think its less. Maybe a 2 pack in 9 ball.

As the season goes on, we will see how often it happens. The exact scenario won't happen unless the teams are tied, but the closest one would be singles matches where one player runs out the game.

Once we know how common running out a complete game is, I think we will be able to draw comparisons to running out a rack of 9 ball, etc.
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Yes, that's what I'm thinking. Johnnyt
 
I do believe you will see the top 14.1 players do real good in BB followed by to 1 hole players. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
I do believe you will see the top 14.1 players do real good in BB followed by to 1 hole players. Johnnyt
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I was thinking the same thing last night. I agree. I think it's especially true of Thorsten since he plays 14.1 with more of a power game while still have exceptional patterns etc.
 
Agree with the 14.1 players.

One thing that was huge with limiting runs was rebreaking the rack and scratching off of it. The 9 ball players just aren't used to that shot. The 14.1 players will know how to hit it best, to minimize the chance of scratching.

I see this as a bigger edge in the beginning. As the season goes on, I would imagine all the players will work on the rebreak and know the best ways to hit it from different angles.
 
It's hard to compare because that playoff was purely offensive. TH took a number of wild shots (that he luckily made), that he would not have taken in another situation.
 
BRussell said:
It's hard to compare because that playoff was purely offensive. TH took a number of wild shots (that he luckily made), that he would not have taken in another situation.
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That's true, but in BB I believe he gets a $500 bonus for the runout, so he had that to think about. Johnnyt
 
How many banks were in that run, 3? I think one of them was a full table that I'd consider like 30% on these pockets even for top pros. Maybe that's a little low.

Thorsten, as strong as he is at straight pool and break shots, and as strong as he is at navigating traffic, still looked like he should have had the run end at several points. I'd say this is like a flyer-filled 100pt run in straight pool.

As for comparing it to a 9b package... 3 sequences = 9 balls.
Is 3 sequences easier or harder than a 9b out?
I think harder cuz only half the pockets are available, despite having multiple balls to shoot at.
It'd be a little over a 3-pack if they were equally difficult. Call it a 4-pack.
 
i watched that run and he came with a few real good shots, however he did have the balls laying VERY favorably so he could make that hight run. He shot one good bank to keep it going , but like in one pocket the balls were favoring his hole. Unlike 14.1 or snooker its very difficult or impossible to bring balls into play as often given the nature of the game. So like in 9 ball luck is a big factor. If CB stopped on the other side of the table on the break, he was done. going to be interesting to see how this plays out for sure.


as far as comparison, there isnt one, its a 3 pocket game. just like in one pocket, whats the comp with it to anything else? nothing. I almost ran a 2 pack in 1P once; I ran 8 and out broke made a ball and ran 6 more, I was 1 ball short of a 2 pack(there was no shot, i didnt miss) I dont ever ever recall anyone running a 2 pack in one hole and if I did so what? it compares to nothing. I think the hi runs in BB are fun, cool and will be compared to each other like "hi breaks" are in snooker. apples to apples my friend.....:)
 
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The re-break.....

You need to take into consideration the factors surrounding a successful re break in bonus ball....

1. Position to the black from the one remaining orange
2. making the ball and hitting the stack
3. opening the rack and getting shape on a purple
4. getting shape on a purple into one of your 3 pockets

I think the difficulty factor of this shot is as high as anything in pool.........but i may be a little biased. :smile:
 
meximan2469 said:
You need to take into consideration the factors surrounding a successful re break in bonus ball....

1. Position to the black from the one remaining orange
2. making the ball and hitting the stack
3. opening the rack and getting shape on a purple
4. getting shape on a purple into one of your 3 pockets

I think the difficulty factor of this shot is as high as anything in pool.........but i may be a little biased. :smile:
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1. skill is required.
2. If #1 was done, 2 should be simple. But still need skill to hit rack square and avoid the scratches.
3 and 4. IMO, luck is more required than skill.
 
I thought the run was 60. I'd call it as difficult as running 125 at straight pool and as difficult as four consecutive break and runs in ten ball.

My guess is that the season prize for highest inning will be won with a run of about 80.

PS I agree with all who have suggested that 14.1 skills are often in play in Bonus Ball.
 
sjm said:
I thought the run was 60. I'd call it as difficult as running 125 at straight pool and as difficult as four consecutive break and runs in ten ball.

My guess is that the season prize for highest inning will be won with a run of about 80.

PS I agree with all who have suggested that 14.1 skills are often in play in Bonus Ball.
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Yeah I just watched it and it was 60 points. I was puzzled why someone earlier would compare it to a two pack in nine ball but now that I went back and saw that the op called it a 30 point run, maybe that's why only the two pack comparison.
 
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