This got a legit lol out of me.
With Kiamco signed up, can you update the huge impact bonus ball has had on the tournament with a new percentage?
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Bogus Ball..from the start
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This got a legit lol out of me.
With Kiamco signed up, can you update the huge impact bonus ball has had on the tournament with a new percentage?
Yes, I signed him up!
Warren is "on the list" but not officially in yet. He most likely will get in.Ray
the player's character development is an essential component.
The Key will be to market the game to the general public in the way that THEY want to see it, not how we think it should be. Bonus Ball is complicated to play and understand, however, like Ray said, it's not the game that's the problem, it's the organizational, public relations, and developmental issues.
One of the top players ask me if I'd consider being "The Commissioner" of professional pool and my answer was simply "No".....however, I would like to be involved in the marketing and developing a comprehensive marketing plan for the professional sport of pocket billiards. There's a recipe for success, however, from our research the attempts in the last 13 years have been off course, concentrating on the wrong agenda.
I've seen the "Commissioner" routine before and it's too political for me, I'm more interested in the pure business aspects and how to format the game to sell to ESPN. This is the best first step that can be made, and the player's character development is an essential component.
Pro pool, should be more like staging a movie than just showcasing two people playing the game. "People like people, not games"...and this goes for baseball, football, tennis, basketball, golf, etc....it's the personalities that drive the sport/game, not vice versa.
The game is great, however, the general public will ONLY care about the game when they know and recognize the players. This must be the first and foremost strategy and it's been done before (in other sports/games), and it will be done again. 'The Game Will Be the Teacher'
The Key will be to market the game to the general public in the way that THEY want to see it, not how we think it should be. Bonus Ball is complicated to play and understand, however, like Ray said, it's not the game that's the problem, it's the organizational, public relations, and developmental issues.
One of the top players ask me if I'd consider being "The Commissioner" of professional pool and my answer was simply "No".....however, I would like to be involved in the marketing and developing a comprehensive marketing plan for the professional sport of pocket billiards. There's a recipe for success, however, from our research the attempts in the last 13 years have been off course, concentrating on the wrong agenda.
I've seen the "Commissioner" routine before and it's too political for me, I'm more interested in the pure business aspects and how to format the game to sell to ESPN. This is the best first step that can be made, and the player's character development is an essential component.
Pro pool, should be more like staging a movie than just showcasing two people playing the game. "People like people, not games"...and this goes for baseball, football, tennis, basketball, golf, etc....it's the personalities that drive the sport/game, not vice versa.
The game is great, however, the general public will ONLY care about the game when they know and recognize the players. This must be the first and foremost strategy and it's been done before (in other sports/games), and it will be done again. 'The Game Will Be the Teacher'
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WTH is this all about????
Paul Vann: this person pulls up two people in Google. A deceased colonel and a vocalist in Las Vegas. Neither of these are the person listed on the site who states he lives in the UK. He has targeted players and staff of Bonus Ball. Upon further research leading to the page containing his loan application guaranteeing approval, I found numerous grammatical errors and the company is referred to as Instant Decision Loan and Instant cash loans in the same paragraph. At first it seems the two are separate, but in fact they are one in the same. Please, please do not fill out this loan form. Use Money Mutual if you absolutely have to. This loan agent is not recognised by any form of legal agency or part of the BBB. Giving this person your SSN, address, etc is recipe for Identity theft. None of us want to see this happen to anyone. Please share. If you have already given this individual your information regarding a loan, stop whatever you are doing RIGHT NOW and go to www.StopFraud.gov. I'm already at that page, and I actually encourage everyone to report this, regardless. We need to protect each other -and ourselves and our families. This CAN NOT be left unattended.
Paul Vann: this person pulls up two people in Google. A deceased colonel and a vocalist in Las Vegas. Neither of these are the person listed on the site who states he lives in the UK. He has targeted players and staff of Bonus Ball. Upon further research leading to the page containing his loan application guaranteeing approval, I found numerous grammatical errors and the company is referred to as Instant Decision Loan and Instant cash loans in the same paragraph. At first it seems the two are separate, but in fact they are one in the same. Please, please do not fill out this loan form. Use Money Mutual if you absolutely have to. This loan agent is not recognised by any form of legal agency or part of the BBB. Giving this person your SSN, address, etc is recipe for Identity theft. None of us want to see this happen to anyone. Please share. If you have already given this individual your information regarding a loan, stop whatever you are doing RIGHT NOW and go to www.StopFraud.gov. I'm already at that page, and I actually encourage everyone to report this, regardless. We need to protect each other -and ourselves and our families. This CAN NOT be left unattended.
In today's market I think the brand has to be marketed first and foremost. The promoters use the media to create ______ fans, fill in the blank with UFC, NFL, NBA, BONUSBALL, whatever. While the players are used as tools to create excitement they are ultimatly disposable. The top sports organizations of today have learned to build fans of the organization first and foremost so that if Shane Van Boening doesn't want to play it simply doesn't matter.
Mma is a perfect example of how this works. The UFC owns the media and they create UFC fans above all else. A superstar like Randy Couture can and has decided to go against the machine and when that happens the marketing machine goes into full effect and overnight a superstar turns from hero to zero. No one cares if he wants to leave for another organization.
This kind of marketing takes connections. With the right individuals at the helm persuasion of the general public is easy. This includes generating excitement for a new sport. I'm excited to see what the new heads of Bonusball have to offer.
we can get Iron Man to play BatMan for the Gotham City Title.
And what makes up the "brand" is the personalities/characters....there must be an emotional attachment and this can only be done with real, recognizable humans or superheros if we can get Iron Man to play BatMan for the Gotham City Title.
And what makes up the "brand" is the personalities/characters....there must be an emotional attachment and this can only be done with real, recognizable humans or superheros if we can get Iron Man to play BatMan for the Gotham City Title.
And what makes up the "brand" is the personalities/characters....there must be an emotional attachment and this can only be done with real, recognizable humans or superheros if we can get Iron Man to play BatMan for the Gotham City Title.
Of course you're right, there has to be an emotional attachment, but the players are only 1 part of it, a replaceable part at that. The excitement has to come from the entire event. As a promoter you want people to love Thorsten because he is a bonusball player not love bonusball because Thorsten plays it.
So far noone has been able to create a buzz for pool or at least not for a while now. I fully believe that with the right leadership Bonusball has the potential. I'm not expecting a success the size of a mainstream sport or anything but I do believe it will put pool on the map and it will be a success.
Hmmmm... I wonder if gambling could generate an emotional attachment?
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OK, Can you post the cash with Jay Helfert? If so, and the following is to your agreement, we have a bet.
1) I am betting the players do not get paid and begin another season of Bonus Ball (26 weeks from beginning to end) prior to January 1, 2014.
If that is not satisfactory, spell out the details that are.
So lets clarify-U say everyone gets paid-season 1 is complete and everyone paid for that. Then we have season 2, it completes and everyone is paid for that too? You're willing to bet 5K on that?
My bet is much easier than that. I will bet him his 5K and pay off if the players just get paid what they are owed and launch a new season by Jan 1.
And I will listen to any other details he wants. I can change the Jan 1 date to something like "and they complete season #2" because if they went back now and completed season 1 that would put season 2 back to next year.
Posting rules: Post a minimum of $1,000 this week with Helfert.
Post a minimum of $1,000 every two weeks until entire 5K is posted.
Failing to make a post on time results in loss of bet and all posted funds.
Helfert gets a $500 Jelly Roll for holding the stakes.
And I will listen to any other details he wants. I can change the Jan 1 date to something like "and they complete season #2" because if they went back now and completed season 1 that would put season 2 back to next year.
Posting rules: Post a minimum of $1,000 this week with Helfert.
Post a minimum of $1,000 every two weeks until entire 5K is posted.
Failing to make a post on time results in loss of bet and all posted funds.
Helfert gets a $500 Jelly Roll for holding the stakes.
You tell us...did you copy/ paste that from somewhere? Why is Paul Vann associated with this matter? To whom do I need to send my ssn? I am confustigated.
This thread is still going? I just assumed everyone knew what the score was and had already moved on by now.
keep up! we've got 9 days till the big announcement!
Did you ever elaborate on the check cashing post you made? Did you really deposit checks based on the picture of checks posted?
There was statement that the account was closed...is that fact?
LMAO Jimmy!
BB in a BB thread, priceless. BB, did you just get a fresh batch?
Just a heads up, that PINKLADY broad is a handful and a half. Trust me on this, tread carefully with them southern women!
CJ,
Can you give a short list of those that you feel might be a good choice for 'Commissioner' that might enlist you as the 'Marketing Director'?
Personally I think you would be a very good Commissioner & should just delegate the politics to the 'Assistant Commissioner' or the 'Director of Player Diplomacy'.
Thanks & All the Best,
Rick
CJ,
I can't stop looking....what is up with that avatar of yours?
I keep getting flashbacks of that show, The Love Boat.
Eric
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Honey....i didn't realize you were that easy? :wink:
no, i have zero knowledge of those checks & its bank. but SCOTT should!
I like that last part! :wink: