Bad Deal with daniels

Oh, that makes a ton of sense.

NSA and I have done business together. He is a good man!
You purchased an item and your method of payment was bunk. You need to make it right and honor your original contract since you did not fulfill your portion of an agreement. Payment made and payment retracted (for ANY reason) changes it from a fulfilled contract to larceny with the intent to de-fruaud. That is why it is ILLEGAL to write bad checks. Using the mail also allows for charges of mail -fraud and bank fraud. Damages to the petitioner are clear cut. The fact that you sold it on ebay shows additional motive and shows gain. I suspect your mother will be involved. She will either need to press charges against you for unauthorized use of her card or be involved for conspiracy to defraud. Call your mommies bank and ask them what type of investigation will follow for you and your mom if NSA brings forward a suit and shows that he accepted payment in good faith (fully supported by your statements publicly . Do that first because it will provide all the motivation you need to resolve this.

Your posts have been printed from this thread and forwarded to someone I have consulted on this matter. You have 72 hours to make NSA whole or I will be referring this to a local attorney (Placerville, CA) on behalf of NSA. This attorney owes me a HUGE favor. He has agreed to file pro-bono (i will cover filling fees) . I will put NSA in contact with him in 72 hours. It will be more than worth it to call that favor in to see this resolved properly. For now it will a civil matter but I was assured criminal charges will be pursued by just about any judge in El Dorado Country. Do I have that right?

I will not repsond in this thread further and only to see that this has been resolved in 72 hours. Ask people on AZ that know me if I mess around on matters like this or have the wherewithal to back this up. This is not a threat.This is one AZer finally taking a stand against low-lifes like you. Even if this costs me $$$$ it will happen and hard!

I am not your friend nor enemy. I do not care to hear any excuses or a response from you. PMs will be deleted w/o being read. Test me!

A local attorney eh? So the plot thickens...
..but criminal charges for $100? They'd need moms cooperation for that. Somehow I just doubt it. But could be that they're really bored in El Dorado County...
...and what about Mary Jane?... Stay tuned
 
Mr daniels just sent me this pm........

lose lose situation - Today, 12:32 PM

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man I woke up this morning and really wanted to try to make things rite.. The more I read these comments from these whack jobs the less im interested in working anything out.. The only good that came out of posting this publicly is wads told me he was out a cue also, I sent him out a cue today that's worth double the cue I bought from him, so hopefully he's happy.. And trust me im gonna tell him personally not to mention anything here on az.. I didn't do it for anyone here on az or my reputation, I just honestly felt bad he got screwed.. I guess were gonna both lose out here james, if u wanna try me in small claims court ill see u there!!


Wow you do right or claim to do right by this gentleman but me I am still going to be taken by you. Why would you even post that to me?

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I'm Sorry, a link to the ebay auction in question as well.
Thanks

Sadly, he drags people that are 'dear' to him through it...

Just so there is no confusion these are the two addresses that Mr. daniels was using at the time of purchase

robdaniels03@yahoo.com

robert daniels
700 lassen dr,
South lake tahoe, CA 96150

contact info 530-545-3836 cell,

lacey ficklin
2933 sacramento
south lake tahoe, CA 96150
yup, I believe this is his ebay handle: robertd03 ( private )
here's a link for a 'red gator pool case' back on april 9,
in reply to another AZ'ers post.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/26119513065...LX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649=#ht_45wt_1200


eBay Member User ID History

The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.

User ID Effective Date End Date
robertd03 Dec-22-12 Present
robertdaniels2010 Mar-01-10 Dec-22-12
 
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Mr daniels just sent me this pm........

lose lose situation - Today, 12:32 PM

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man I woke up this morning and really wanted to try to make things rite.. The more I read these comments from these whack jobs the less im interested in working anything out.. The only good that came out of posting this publicly is wads told me he was out a cue also, I sent him out a cue today that's worth double the cue I bought from him, so hopefully he's happy.. And trust me im gonna tell him personally not to mention anything here on az.. I didn't do it for anyone here on az or my reputation, I just honestly felt bad he got screwed.. I guess were gonna both lose out here james, if u wanna try me in small claims court ill see u there!!


Wow you do right or claim to do right by this gentleman but me I am still going to be taken by you. Why would you even post that to me?

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Because he never intended to do right by you, and he needs some sort of self-justification for his perception of right and wrong.

Hey, if he has $10k in cues lying around, and no cash, he could have sent you a cue worth a couple hundred as a gesture that he was sorry for the problem that his Mother caused you and him by not leaving the payment on her card. I mean, you KNOW that she knew he was good for it. She is his MOTHER, for Pete's sake.

Mr. Daniels should not be upset by anything anyone says on here. As far as this thread is concerned, there is only one person that he needs to respond to and take care of...NSAfellow.

Joe
 
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Mr daniels just sent me this pm........

lose lose situation - Today, 12:32 PM

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man I woke up this morning and really wanted to try to make things rite.. The more I read these comments from these whack jobs the less im interested in working anything out.. The only good that came out of posting this publicly is wads told me he was out a cue also, I sent him out a cue today that's worth double the cue I bought from him, so hopefully he's happy.. And trust me im gonna tell him personally not to mention anything here on az.. I didn't do it for anyone here on az or my reputation, I just honestly felt bad he got screwed.. I guess were gonna both lose out here james, if u wanna try me in small claims court ill see u there!!


Wow you do right or claim to do right by this gentleman but me I am still going to be taken by you. Why would you even post that to me?

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Perhaps this local attorney could pursue this in a small claims court. Or maybe you could use a Tahoe vacation. Generally, a small claims court can award several times the damages and travel costs associated with the hearing.You could sue him for the max amount allowed by Small Claims court, if he doesn't show you'll get a judgement, collecting the judgement will then be the issue and it doesn't sound like he has any intention of paying you a dime. Sure, it pisses everyone off, especially you, you're the one that's out a case and funds. It's unlikely that you'll ever see any money from this person and unless mom calls the police it's unlikely that he'll ever face anything criminal for this - as of yet, she has had several months to complain and there is currently no complaining witness.
I'm afraid that you may have to write this off. But if it were me, this is something that I'd never forget. The billiard community is rather small in the big scheme of things, I think there's a better than average chance that your paths will cross at some point and his path is almost sure to cross with other members of this forum, and reasonably quickly, and some people are pretty pissed, there's no telling what might happen. When his rep is soiled enough, not only will he have a hard time selling or buying anything else, here, on ebay or anywhere else, but if his part of Cal is like it is here, it'll be hard for him to even enter an event.
You may not get the money you're owed, but given time I think you'll get your satisfaction, everyone will.
 
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I was told that when someone charges on someone else's credit card and they deny the charges, when there is proof that a "bonafide" sale occurred and the unauthorized user is clearly identifiable than the bank offers the card holder the option to press charges or honor the claim when the merchant is out the money and the goods. The lawyer said, NSA has enough to presue that on his own with the CC company and will have no issue getting them involved.

The small claims file will name both the mom and the son "whereas" the son was acting as an agent on behalf of the mom". Either way he/they lose. Either he is found to have committed a crime by acting as an agent for his mother when he was not authorized to do, or he was and the mom takes the fall. I never saw it from that angle but it makes sense.
 
"or he was and the mom takes the fall. I never saw it from that angle but it makes sense".


Wow u must be getting old if it took u that long to figure that out... I paid cash to her, for the case, when it was purchased with her card... In no way did I steal her card, use it without permission or any other accusations u ppls have claimed..
What accusations? The message above clearly shows you admitting guilt. Nothing more shocking than the arrogance of criminals such as yourself.
 
So you are saying that your mom stole NSA money? So should he be calling her to get the money? Once again you keep bringing this on yourself. Everything would go away if you just paid NSA what you owe him. I am not calling you a thief or a liar. I know one thing A MAN IS ONLY AS GOOD AS HIS WORD. Right now your word is pretty worthless. That might not mean much to you, however it is a direct reflextion of your character.
 
I was told that when someone charges on someone else's credit card and they deny the charges, when there is proof that a "bonafide" sale occurred and the unauthorized user is clearly identifiable than the bank offers the card holder the option to press charges or honor the claim when the merchant is out the money and the goods. The lawyer said, NSA has enough to presue that on his own with the CC company and will have no issue getting them involved.

The small claims file will name both the mom and the son "whereas" the son was acting as an agent on behalf of the mom". Either way he/they lose. Either he is found to have committed a crime by acting as an agent for his mother when he was not authorized to do, or he was and the mom takes the fall. I never saw it from that angle but it makes sense.

Do you need any extra funds to help with getting this filed?

There's no reason "mom" would have disputed the purchase when she was supposedly paid cash in exchange for her son's use of her card.............unless her son told her to dispute it or never paid her.
 
I was told that when someone charges on someone else's credit card and they deny the charges, when there is proof that a "bonafide" sale occurred and the unauthorized user is clearly identifiable than the bank offers the card holder the option to press charges or honor the claim when the merchant is out the money and the goods. The lawyer said, NSA has enough to presue that on his own with the CC company and will have no issue getting them involved.

The small claims file will name both the mom and the son "whereas" the son was acting as an agent on behalf of the mom". Either way he/they lose. Either he is found to have committed a crime by acting as an agent for his mother when he was not authorized to do, or he was and the mom takes the fall. I never saw it from that angle but it makes sense.

Well the thing is it's been several months and none of these things have happened. I doubt that it's beyond the statute but the amount we're talking about is the amount of the case which I believe was $80, I doubt the bank fee will be recoverable. A bank can't press charges or offer someone the opportunity to press charges they could only testify on behalf of... or offer evidence in support of..., any criminal matter would have to be pursued by the office of the District Attorney or the office of The City Attorney, depending on the local laws, and for petty theft of $80 that would require mom to testify against her son, I just don't see it. I would think it's just more bother than a DA would want to put on his or her plate You might want to name mom in any civil suite but I can't see her being held liable for any damages. I think it's pretty likely that she'd be dismissed as a defendant in pretty short order. Just as a matter of principle I can see perusing this to "the ends of the earth" (as it were), but for $80?
To me that would be a sort of a Pyrrhic victory. I might just want to wait until I came across him at some tournament or event and offer him one chance to pay up or knock the shit out of him then bang his girlfriend
 
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anyone who thinks or wants to attempt to knock the shit out of me I Play out of Diamonds in Reno!! That's an open invitation to come on down..
 
Its funny how quick ppl on here jump to conclusions because of personal opinion.. Yr 100% wrong about this statement.. bring any legal action on.. Ive made it public and I don't have anything to hide and ill swear to it under oath if need be.. opinions are a dime a dozen and this forum has quit a few..

When you found out that your mom disputed it why didn't you just pay the man? All you had to do was get the cash back from your mom and go get a postal money order from the post office. It's pretty simple.
 
anyone who thinks or wants to attempt to knock the shit out of me I Play out of Diamonds in Reno!! That's an open invitation to come on down..

Your room owner might not like the idea of you provoking a fight in his/her room. It would cost more than $100 to get out of jail too.
 
anyone who thinks or wants to attempt to knock the shit out of me I Play out of Diamonds in Reno!! That's an open invitation to come on down..

That's a pretty brave statement (on a nameless, faceless forum...)
Dude, stop it, you've already got away with someone else's property and sold it, sound to me like if you really did pay mom back you at the very worst broke even, and NSA is doesn't have his case or the money that you promised.
Let it go. You win, at least for now you win
Just out of curiosity, does Diamonds know you did this?
 
anyone who thinks or wants to attempt to knock the shit out of me I Play out of Diamonds in Reno!! That's an open invitation to come on down..

okay, you're losing focus again daniels.

try this:

think of John Travolta's character in "Get Shorty".

I'm putting my hand up vertically to the bridge of my nose, now look me in the eyes and take in what I'm about to say to you. Focus on each word.

you received a case from nsafellow and he hasn't been paid.

everything else means nothing.

get him his money.

best,
brian kc
 
I haven't spoke with my family since earlier this year.. And ive never spoke with her about this credit card issue



if u come looking for a fight there wont be any cops called on my part.. Maybe ambulance but definitely no cops.. And what kind of nit comes looking for a fight and calls the cops after they get KO'ed?

I hope you have a blessed day and live life to the fullest. I also hope you get the issues you are dealing with resolved.
 
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