Looking for information on Buddy Hall's "strategic blast" tactic

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I'd like to hear as much information about this as possible: detailed description, when it is used, background and development, some notable uses in important matches, your personal experience etc. Nothing is too much.
 
lol, ok you gotta be trolling now. Buddy was known for his supreme finesse, soft touch, and cueball control.
You'd see Buddy blasting the balls about as often as you'd catch a golden retriever quoting Shakespeare.
 
Well, I think it's only used in 9 ball (not 10 ball since that's called shot) and where a safety can't be played...so you give a cluster of balls a good ride hoping to pocket at least one. Not sure how often/important this concept is in normal 9 ball but it definitely comes up more in apa 9 ball. One thing you want to do is hit the object ball full so that the cue ball doesn't run loose and potentially scratch.
 
Actually, I did see buddy mention this on his 9 ball video (but for like 10 seconds). He kind of said it as an afterthought. But for apa 9 ball, where it's about points, it does have its use.
 
As with most posts by you, never heard of it. Buddy was all about finesse and if you had ever seen him play, you'd know that. He had the smoothest stroke of anyone I've seen in all my years in and around the game.
 
I don't really believe that anybody can control the white ball. Everybody pretends like they know where it's going. I say that's a bunch of crap. It's impossible to know where a round sphere is going after it contacts another round sphere. Once you understand this FACT, it becomes obvious that the only truly smart play is to hit the white ball HARD....VERY HARD!

I hit the balls so hard they go flying around the table and I always make a least one ball. Sometimes when I'm in bars I win drinks from my friends and all the girls say to themselves, "Who is that hot shot pool master?" Once I even broke the balls so hard I was able to pocket 4 on the break. Then I crushed them a couple more times and nearly ran 6 of my balls off the table.

I used to think you could figure out where the white one would go. Realizing that this is impossible has really set my pool game free.

I remember watching Buddy Hall play years ago and the only thing I took away from his game was he didn't hit the balls hard enough. He could have been so much better.
 
I don't really believe that anybody can control the white ball. Everybody pretends like they know where it's going. I say that's a bunch of crap. It's impossible to know where a round sphere is going after it contacts another round sphere. Once you understand this FACT, it becomes obvious that the only truly smart play is to hit the white ball HARD....VERY HARD!

I hit the balls so hard they go flying around the table and I always make a least one ball. Sometimes when I'm in bars I win drinks from my friends and all the girls say to themselves, "Who is that hot shot pool master?" Once I even broke the balls so hard I was able to pocket 4 on the break. Then I crushed them a couple more times and nearly ran 6 of my balls off the table.

I used to think you could figure out where the white one would go. Realizing that this is impossible has really set my pool game free.

I remember watching Buddy Hall play years ago and the only thing I took away from his game was he didn't hit the balls hard enough. He could have been so much better.

Agreed. That's why I've sold my playing cue and now using only my break cue. Smash Ball!
 
I don't really believe that anybody can control the white ball. Everybody pretends like they know where it's going. I say that's a bunch of crap. It's impossible to know where a round sphere is going after it contacts another round sphere. Once you understand this FACT, it becomes obvious that the only truly smart play is to hit the white ball HARD....VERY HARD!

I hit the balls so hard they go flying around the table and I always make a least one ball. Sometimes when I'm in bars I win drinks from my friends and all the girls say to themselves, "Who is that hot shot pool master?" Once I even broke the balls so hard I was able to pocket 4 on the break. Then I crushed them a couple more times and nearly ran 6 of my balls off the table.

I used to think you could figure out where the white one would go. Realizing that this is impossible has really set my pool game free.

I remember watching Buddy Hall play years ago and the only thing I took away from his game was he didn't hit the balls hard enough. He could have been so much better.

+1 for an outstanding post
 
I'd like to hear as much information about this as possible: detailed description, when it is used, background and development, some notable uses in important matches, your personal experience etc. Nothing is too much.

I have heard of this strategy before. You run at the pool table like it is a joust match. Hold your cue up and contact the cue ball while running full speed. Sometimes a war cry will help for effect. Hope this helps.
 
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As with most posts by you, never heard of it. Buddy was all about finesse and if you had ever seen him play, you'd know that. He had the smoothest stroke of anyone I've seen in all my years in and around the game.

I agree. What is with the OP's fixation with "blasting" (either at balls or clusters), running ram shots, extreme power, etc.?

The OP may be interested in one of these:

Pneumatic cue:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FfnIrUOjE9c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n0yQxTsjR-U
http://pneupowercue.com/

Now here's what you do: instead of compressed air, connect this to a tank of propane (like that which is used for barbecue grills, etc.). When you line your shot up, hold a lighted match near the muzzle. Fire! (Literally.) You get a nice "afterburner" flame after the cue fires the cue ball like a rocket. :thumbup2:

-Sean
 
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lol, ok you gotta be trolling now. Buddy was known for his supreme finesse, soft touch, and cueball control.
You'd see Buddy blasting the balls about as often as you'd catch a golden retriever quoting Shakespeare.

Yes, but that doesn't fit the OP's agenda of finding a pro who fits his view of when in doubt hit as hard as you possibly can and hope to get lucky.
 
I agree. What is with the OP's fixation with "blasting" (either at balls or clusters), running ram shots, extreme power, etc.?

The OP may be interested in one of these:

Pneumatic cue:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FfnIrUOjE9c
http://pneupowercue.com/

I always get a kick out of that thing. :D

Interesting, though, it clearly demonstrates that you really don't need any follow through to stoke the ball well. That tip doesn't get halfway through the ball at any time, and on a couple shots I slowed down it barely made it through 1/4" of the ball before it stopped, and the CB went as well as if I stroked 6" beyond the ball.

I have thought for a while now that pneumatics would make the best cue delivery device for deflection testing and such. If you could build a machine that provided a constant gas pressure, you would have a constant force on the cue throughout the stroke. Constant force = a linear acceleration rate.
 
Actually, I did see buddy mention this on his 9 ball video (but for like 10 seconds). He kind of said it as an afterthought. But for apa 9 ball, where it's about points, it does have its use.

I think I remember that, he said if you can't figure out what the heck to do, just hit and hope, sometimes that is the only/best option. Even that, it's not really a random shot, on a kick, you still would want to try to hit your ball, but you don't see a good speed to kick it at, kick hard, hope for something good to happen.

Not much else to be said about this, last hope shot, but you are often just better of taking a deliberate foul and moving something into a worse position.

The issue with our pal PoolKiller/PushPull is that he things this is a good method to use at any point in the game, or at least more than the .5% of shots a real player would use it in. Actually less, I must have shot hundreds of shots just this week and don't remember the last time I used the blast and hope method. Maybe we're looking at .1% use (1/1,000 shots).
 
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I'm sure buddy probably only used this strategy once in a blue moon. But it on that video How do you win form here. And I do believe, with a stop shot....you can limit (not eliminate) scratches when doing this.
 
As much as we laugh at him on here, I'm sure push&pool gets laughed at twice as much when he is actually playing pool.
 
Ok...since this thread is beyond ridiculous here is a book EVERYONE should read at least once.
 

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I've seen Buddy blast into em when he was on two fouls and getting ready to be fouled out ( playin 9ball). I asked him later what the heck was he doing and he said he thought that was his only chance and maybe if his opp didn't have an easy return safe to foul him out, he (Buddy) might get lucky and tie a couple balls up, then hope the guy can't get out.Playin the odds is what I call it. I'm pretty sure I've seen him blast in one pocket also. Sometimes it's a good shot,or the only shot. I hope I understood your question and helped some.If not,my bad. John B.
 
I don't really believe that anybody can control the white ball. Everybody pretends like they know where it's going. I say that's a bunch of crap. It's impossible to know where a round sphere is going after it contacts another round sphere. Once you understand this FACT, it becomes obvious that the only truly smart play is to hit the white ball HARD....VERY HARD!

I hit the balls so hard they go flying around the table and I always make a least one ball. Sometimes when I'm in bars I win drinks from my friends and all the girls say to themselves, "Who is that hot shot pool master?" Once I even broke the balls so hard I was able to pocket 4 on the break. Then I crushed them a couple more times and nearly ran 6 of my balls off the table.

I used to think you could figure out where the white one would go. Realizing that this is impossible has really set my pool game free.

I remember watching Buddy Hall play years ago and the only thing I took away from his game was he didn't hit the balls hard enough. He could have been so much better.

I wonder how many people thing you are being serious?
 
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