No rules violations...
It's early yet, we're only 40 pages in, so far
No rules violations...
I have seen all kinds of angles in my life and some have came from people who seemed more trust worthy than these charity folk.
This thread is approaching the top 10 threads of ALL TIME on AZBilliards. Glad I was in on the ground floor.
So anyone paying attention knew about the TAR offer for the match. Not sure anyone knew about the str8shots offer until the OP. So why would Kim make the original post in reference to killing the match str8shots was working behind the scenes, when no one even knew about it?
Makes no sense to me.
No, you did something wrong in concluding that. This thread is up to about 600 replies now and 20,000 views, but neither of those is near the top 10. You also forgot to check all of the forums, not just the Main Forum.
But who knows, it may make it yet.
I havent read the last few hours worth of posts I have been on the phone talking with Kimberly from Str8 Shots. There has been a lot of crossed wires in this situation obviously. Here are some things that should help clear it up:
1. Str8 Shots is not doing a Danny/John match now or in the future. Off the table.
2. Kimberly is unfamiliar with AZ and forums in general. This is a big reason the OP that started this brushfire read the way it did. I am as guilty of getting riled up over it as anyone. After speaking with her I believe 100% that her and husband want nothing but good things for pool and the people who play and watch it.
3. Str8 Shots focus has been Juniors and local events in the past. They are not as intimately familiar with all pro players and the history of the pro game as many here are. This has caused some miscommunications and mixed signals to happen.
4. There has been a large element of the "Telephone Game" effect in action throughout this entire situation. Sometimes what is said and what is meant become two different things when filtered through multiple lines of communication.
5. After two long conversations with Kimberly I find we agree on many things relating to pool and what it will take to improve the state of it in this country. Str8 Shots has been doing many good things no one has heard of. I consider myself wired in pretty good and I was unaware of most of them. They put time money and effort into things they believe in. That is desperately needed in this game.
6. After all that has went on in this thread I feel Str8 Shots has taken a whipping they really do not deserve. Most of that is due to the simple fact that things written on a forum by someone unfamiliar with the landscape can easily be taken out of context. I will be the first to admit I was guilty of this in this thread. My personal opinion based on knowing many people in this thread in person and most through my time here is that the great majority were just standing up for their opinions based on the facts as they understood them.
Unfortunately many of those facts for various reasons were not correct leading to good people making statements that are not warranted based on what REALLY has happened. Its confusing as hell and in all my time here I have never seen a similar situation spin out control so fast.
7. The Str8 Shots crew are good people not out to screw anyone over or micro manage the players they sponsor. They expect people they associate with to conduct themselves as professionals when representing them. That is something I think almost everyone here will agree is a good thing.
I feel really bad for having gotten twisted up in this mess and want to apologize to Kimberly and her husband for the part I played in this thing getting out of control. I believe in my heart they want nothing but good things and simply walked into a situation they had no knowledge off and got caught in a trap. In the future I will support Str8 Shots and do anything I can to help them.
I have always been vocal when I think someone is trying to pull a move on the pool world. History has proved me right on almost all occasions. On this one I was wrong. These are good people doing good things. I hope everyone will calm down and maybe take my word that there is no malice here on anyone's part. Its just a misunderstanding that got rapidly out of hand.
I havent read the last few hours worth of posts I have been on the phone talking with Kimberly from Str8 Shots. There has been a lot of crossed wires in this situation obviously. Here are some things that should help clear it up:
1. Str8 Shots is not doing a Danny/John match now or in the future. Off the table.
2. Kimberly is unfamiliar with AZ and forums in general. This is a big reason the OP that started this brushfire read the way it did. I am as guilty of getting riled up over it as anyone. After speaking with her I believe 100% that her and husband want nothing but good things for pool and the people who play and watch it.
3. Str8 Shots focus has been Juniors and local events in the past. They are not as intimately familiar with all pro players and the history of the pro game as many here are. This has caused some miscommunications and mixed signals to happen.
4. There has been a large element of the "Telephone Game" effect in action throughout this entire situation. Sometimes what is said and what is meant become two different things when filtered through multiple lines of communication.
5. After two long conversations with Kimberly I find we agree on many things relating to pool and what it will take to improve the state of it in this country. Str8 Shots has been doing many good things no one has heard of. I consider myself wired in pretty good and I was unaware of most of them. They put time money and effort into things they believe in. That is desperately needed in this game.
6. After all that has went on in this thread I feel Str8 Shots has taken a whipping they really do not deserve. Most of that is due to the simple fact that things written on a forum by someone unfamiliar with the landscape can easily be taken out of context. I will be the first to admit I was guilty of this in this thread. My personal opinion based on knowing many people in this thread in person and most through my time here is that the great majority were just standing up for their opinions based on the facts as they understood them.
Unfortunately many of those facts for various reasons were not correct leading to good people making statements that are not warranted based on what REALLY has happened. Its confusing as hell and in all my time here I have never seen a similar situation spin out control so fast.
7. The Str8 Shots crew are good people not out to screw anyone over or micro manage the players they sponsor. They expect people they associate with to conduct themselves as professionals when representing them. That is something I think almost everyone here will agree is a good thing.
I feel really bad for having gotten twisted up in this mess and want to apologize to Kimberly and her husband for the part I played in this thing getting out of control. I believe in my heart they want nothing but good things and simply walked into a situation they had no knowledge off and got caught in a trap. In the future I will support Str8 Shots and do anything I can to help them.
I have always been vocal when I think someone is trying to pull a move on the pool world. History has proved me right on almost all occasions. On this one I was wrong. These are good people doing good things. I hope everyone will calm down and maybe take my word that there is no malice here on anyone's part. Its just a misunderstanding that got rapidly out of hand.
I havent read the last few hours worth of posts I have been on the phone talking with Kimberly from Str8 Shots. There has been a lot of crossed wires in this situation obviously. Here are some things that should help clear it up:
I still don't buy it. I think that now everyone in this thread is part of an even bigger conspiracy. Hopefully it will all come to fruition ten pages from now.
Also, Danny is still batshit crazy regardless of what happens.
Also, also, I apologize to the OP or anyone else I might have offended in the making of this fiasco, but I am not responsible for my posts. I have a monkey on staff named "Jorge" that takes that responsibility. He is available for comment on Thursdays.
It's "George" most of the time, but sometimes he comes to work all liquored up on chilled Patron and on those days he goes by "whore-hay". I would have fired him long ago if he wasn't the best damn high end jewelry appraiser that you'll ever see. Plus he works for bananas.
John's cue sponsor now is Fury and their motto is UNLEASH THE FURY.
Speaking for them unofficially - they say Unleash it and Get It On!!!!
- I think that unless they come to blows there is practically no chance that anything "bad" will happen that detracts from the sponsor's image.
Even if they come to blows it wouldn't be all bad, imagine the YouTube views!
Kidding, it's not that serious and now that Justin is all cool about it let's see it come about.
Y'all can be the undercard for John "Crazy Eyes" Barton vs. Lou "The Lou-ser" Figueroa......... ;-)
It's "George" most of the time, but sometimes he comes to work all liquored up on chilled Patron and on those days he goes by "whore-hay". I would have fired him long ago if he wasn't the best damn high end jewelry appraiser that you'll ever see. Plus he works for bananas.