I've been an IDIOT

Ditto

I was in the same situation only with 9 ball. I knew I was better then the guy I would play on a weekly basis, who by the way beat me like a rented mule from 1996 thru 2006. Instead of having fun playing I would talk to myself thru the entire match, about how crappy his shape was,how lucky he was etc. etc. Finally in 2007 I made up my mind I didn't care what he did, I was going to concentrate on myself and on the table.In 2007 I started to beat him , the real turning point came when he jumped out to a 4-0 lead in a race to 11. I came back and beat him 11-7.After that I beat him all the time on my table his table at the Pool Room it made no difference. This went on for two years and then he just flat out quit playing me.I really think during your match you are concentrating on your opponent too much.Focus on yourself more.
 
Hey, I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert on the game and I don't want to start a war with you.

Here is what I have observed: People who routinely make higher runs than me in straightpool
1: Get out of line as often as (and some times more often than me)
2: Can make extremely difficult shots under pressure, included shots that I deem risky
3. Seem to play patterns that are "loose" if you get what I mean. None of the stop-shot nonsense I've been practising
4: Bank shots all the time. I tried to avoid those
5. Do not take fouls readily. I always try to take fouls when I'm unsure, then they kick something in and run out on me.

My conclusion after this is:
1.I spend most of my time practising staying in line using position drills. That is stupid, I don't need to practise that. I do that as well as the people beating me.
2.I spend little time working on extremely difficult shots. That is stupid, I should probably spend 70% of my time doing that.
3. Instead of playing tight patterns I should just keep my ball in the middle of the table.
4. Spend time on bank shots
5. Practise kicking. Forget strategy and go more by feel.
6. Stroke. I'm forcing it. Thats bad. I should be more lose in my arm instead of forcing it, though it needs to be straight.

Just my personal opinion, but I think you need to come off the ledge a bit. Also, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just because you need to work on your ball pocketing doesn't mean the other stuff is unimportant or stupid. In 14.1 you should try to play tight well thought out patterns that don't involve banks or kicks. No matter how much you practice them they will always be low percentage compared to the vast majority of cut shots. Low percentages in 14.1 are always bad. My advice is just to chill and work some more on your shotmaking so you can come with a shot when you need it.
 
If the guy has run 100 several times your perception he doesn't know what he is doing is incorrect.
 
*Warning, book long post with a lot of personal opinion and thought. Read at your own risk.

My thoughts and compassion on your situation are very reflective of my own journey. Everyone on the web is a "Lights out" world beater, so take my words here with a grain of salt coming from a nobody with zero talent and skill. I will most likely regret this post and my point will more than likely will be lost in translation, I hope not.

I think Richie$Rich has an excellent point in post #13. Now. allow me to expand and explain why. First, I believe you are at a turning point in your game (hopefully for the better, although it may not feel like that at this moment). Humility and self awareness can ground that inflated ego we *all* get as we become a student to the game (the higher levels of the game).

As we learn and work on the finer mechanics, in addition to the finer details of ball characteristics & reactions. This has two unintentional side affects, one being confidence and another being ego. Great, how can this be a bad thing one should ask. My response would be something like this. Confidence, is a powerful weapon in the right situations with the skill-set to back it up (Not saying you don't have that skill-set, bear with me here). The second unintentional reaction to this confidence is an inflated ego (again, not saying yours is over inflated here, just speaking in general terms).

Now, these two beasts have great strengths, they also have the ability to cloud ones self awareness and situational awareness as well. One must also keep themselves grounded and realistic to the "Here & now". As you have become more "aware & in-tune" to the finer details of the game, this opens the door for being "Way to over analytical in the heat of the moment", now add to that adrenaline & outside distractions. As our brains assess the shot at hand and path of execution with the conscious mind, we can at times flood the sub-conscious mind with informational "overload" from tons of conscious thought and over thinking.

Have you ever had one of those moments where your just shooting balls by yourself in a no pressure situation with a completely clear conscious mind, only to realize "I don't think I've missed a shot in the last 20 minutes or longer"? I'll assume that answer would be a yes. What has happen here is (what I believe), we get to a place where the mind is what we think of as " Being completely clear of conscious thought", as we look back, we can't remember saying to ourselves about every last little detail. The only thoughts we remember were saying to ourselves were "Hit here, carom off of that and end up there". Now, this does not me we are not concentrating/focusing on the task at hand, in fact quite the opposite. We are in fact in a high level of concentration and focus, it just happens that at that moment its not a conscious effort, but a sub-conscious higher level of focus. We are not flooding the mind with every single last little detail consciously, we are allowing the other senses (sight, hearing & feel) to feed that information automatically without concussion thought. I like to call this "Auto-pilot mode, others may call it The Zone or in play as, Catching a Gear". This is the level of play we all strive for in the heat of the moment hardcore competitive play. (Edit: this sounds like its ripped right out of a CJ Riley thread. I apologize if taken that way but these are my own original thoughts here)

Wow, that was a lot of spiritual "Zen" like talk, but I believe strongly in its merits, so here's even more. Based on the limited amount of information you provided in your first post, I'm assuming by being able to obtain the runs you have, you have the application skill-set to advance beyond your current level of play. The mind is a powerful thing, as well as its greatest enemy. Example from your first post, as you were watching Spanky with the horrible stroke take you to school, all your mental thoughts were focused on his poor form, meanwhile he was executing shot after shot. While at the same time, your mind was only focused on the negatives of the situation (bad karma for you). These negative thoughts breed that bad karma. When Spanky finally missed a shot and you approach the table, you have a lot of negative thoughts in addition to inner turmoil and hostility (both about his lack of form, and with what you believe to be your more fundamentally correct form) clouding and consuming your own mental processing energy. Translation would be, your brain only has a limited amount of processing power, much like a computer. Instead your brain was infected with some malware/virus (the malware/virus being negative thoughts and emotions) and wasting valuable processing power on crap, leaving even less power to focus on the task at hand. Like I said earlier, the brain is a powerful thing, learning to keep it grounded, in my opinion, is just as, if not more important than perfect physical fundamentals. Spanky was able to execute in the match, and how was his fundamental base? See where I'm going with this here?

Now, regarding you giving up on where you are at now, I believe to be a very bad move. However, this does not mean revisiting *your* fundamentals is a bad move. All of us should revisit those fundamentals on a regular basis and keep them well in-tune. I call it maintenance, much like we must do maintenance on our cars, homes or anything else mechanical in nature. Do drills if thats your thing, take video for later review if possible or seek out the help of someone you know that has the knowledge to guide you in the right direction.

While on the subject of fundamentals, allow me to express my thoughts on this subject. Notice in the last paragraph I astrix (*your*). The general consensus is there is a set standard of guidelines for what is considered proper fundamentals. I do believe there is merit to them, I also believe that we are all unique snowflakes and those fundamentals will vary from person to person slightly, or in some cases massively. Look at professional athletes of any sport, while a lot of them conform to the general application of what people consider "good or perfect fundamentals", we are not all built the same way and those fundamentals will vary slightly person to person. There is no "One single right way in this sport and many others". So, working on fundamentals can be a good thing just keep in mind what has proven to work best for you to achieve a higher level of consistency, "for you".

In closing, I think you going back to the basics (fundamentals) is always a good thing and advisable of any player on a regular basis, don't discount the power of mental conditioning as well. We've all seen great players play bad (generally from a negative mental standpoint), and we've all seen horrible players play lights out (on the flip side, having a positive strong mental approach). If that isn't enough proof of the merits of mental power, then I don't know what is.

Dopc. Mentally weak in game play, but working to improve on it.
 
That was the point I was trying to make. I didn't say HE was an idiot, rather the idiot was me the whole time. When someone is extremely successful doing the exact opposite of what you are trying to do, it's time to question your judgement, is what I was trying to say. I have come to believe that everything I thought I knew is wrong.

I'm not trying to trick anybody into thinking I'm a great player but 14.1 theory isn't very complicated.

Open clusters as soon as possible and have an insurance ball when you do. Once the balls are open try not to run into balls unless you are developing a break shot. If you have a break ball figure out the best pattern to get there.

Knowing what English to use on a break shot to open balls and not get stuck in the rack comes from experience.

In my opinion the best way by FAR to improve your straight pool game is to play straight pool, not drills or anything else. Play straight pool.
 
Not knocking dr. Dave but he may have more pool knowledge than anyone I know. How good was he before he gained this knowledge compared to now. I honestly have no idea. How good should he become. No idea. Natural talent goes a long way. Being at the table as often as possible is the best way to get better.

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Not knocking dr. Dave but he may have more pool knowledge than anyone I know.
Thank you.

How good was he before he gained this knowledge compared to now.
... not very good at all. I have improved a lot over the last 5 years, partly due to better understanding of how to apply the knowledge, but mostly due to intelligent practice where I have identified and fixed flaws in my technique and strategy.

How good should he become.
... a lot better, with a lot more intelligent practice and playing experience.

Being at the table as often as possible is the best way to get better.
I agree, as long as the time at the table is well spent. I've seen lots of people put in lots of table time and yet they fail to learn or improve. It's not enough to just put in time.

FYI, the following resource pages are relevant to this discussion:

knowledge can be useful, but you still need skill
physics "understanding" sometimes provides useful insight
technical knowledge is not enough

Check them out.

Regards,
Dave
 
To anyone I ever gave advice, do the exact opposite of everything I said.[/quotes]

Thats funny. I saw a funny GIf the other day on face Book.

It said: Its not that I am giving you advice, its just that I have done more stupid shit than you.

And that pretty much sums up myself at 55 yrs of age.
 
Not knocking dr. Dave but he may have more pool knowledge than anyone I know. How good was he before he gained this knowledge compared to now. I honestly have no idea. How good should he become. No idea. Natural talent goes a long way. Being at the table as often as possible is the best way to get better.

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John Schmidt is probably giving you a cyber-hug about right now for that statement in blue.

My suggestion to you is to do or not do, whatever it takes to get better.

I have always believed that you shouldn't put in a lot of practice on the things you already do well and that your practice time should be learning new things or learning how to do things that you have difficulty doing.

JoeyA
 
Once you get to a certain point in your development as a pool player, its better to take more difficult shots and stroke in a way that you are comfortable with than to stick to a textbook style of playing.

Playing like a robot, trying to take the most efficient patterns possible and keeping as simple a stroke as possible will get you to a certain point and is optimal for people who are still learning the game, but eventually it will become beneficial to create your own style that is optimal and comfortable to your body and mindset.

Once you have created for yourself a stroke and play-style that you are completely comfortable with, you will probably see great improvement and your confidence will go through the roof.

Of course, your previously gathered knowledge is not useless. It can only help you in determining what can help your new style or hinder it. A lot of thought must be put into this process and any changes you make should be thouroughly experimented with to determine whether or not they are truly beneficial.
 
John Schmidt is probably giving you a cyber-hug about right now for that statement in blue.

My suggestion to you is to do or not do, whatever it takes to get better.

I have always believed that you shouldn't put in a lot of practice on the things you already do well and that your practice time should be learning new things or learning how to do things that you have difficulty doing.

JoeyA

That's not always true though Joey. You might be surprised at what you can learn by practicing things you can supposedly do well. Provided of course, that you are actually practicing correctly.

Today I was practicing certain parts of the the B.U. exam. One particular shot I made five times in a row, like I figured I should. I could have easily stopped there, and moved on to the next shot. But, I wanted to be able to make it ten times in a row, so I could make it on demand with one time at it. At number seven, I missed it. It took some contemplating to understand just why I missed it, as everything seemed exactly the same, except for the little fact that I missed.

After ten more minutes shooting it, I discovered a little something that I hadn't realized before, and was able to correct it. It was just a little thing in my stroke that would sometimes make me miss, thereby another cause of inconsistency. If I hadn't kept practicing that shot that I had confidence in, I never would have found that little problem that creeps up sometimes.
 
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