Well Hog I should add that anytime, anytime whatsoever I always am honest with the seller. I tell them either this is for my collection or im looking to resell this right off that bat. People respect and understand that. Kinda like America pickers. And everytime I decide to make an offer; esp if it's a low offer I start by saying " id like to make u an offer but I do not want to offend you " . I've never been told they do not want to at least hear it. And really by saying that I can't recall anyone getting upset either. Worst they can say is no.