Did you know they don't eat pizza in Italy or Sicily?....
....they just grow them there for export.
A joint just opened in Chicago called Piece, it is New Haven style pizza, and I must admit that I loved it! My kinda pie. my kinda crust, a little thicker and a little chewier. Also Piece has the advantage of having access to Chicago Italian sausage. New York Italian sausage is generally hideous.
Beard
Depends where you go, Freddie. Don't make assumptions because you've been to one or two places -- especially ones that your ritzy/glitzy friends dragged you to. (What yuppies think is good is quite different from what your average NYer thinks is good.)
There are small holes-in-the-wall shops in NY that make stuff that will knock your socks off. Stay away from "big names" if you can. The only exception is Katz's deli. You *DO* need to go there, to get the best Jewish deli you've ever had. The pastrami is to die for.
Wish I could've made it, but my Friday yesterday was very busy -- couldn't get away.
-Sean
f As soon as I got home I put a Gino's frozen sausage and cheese said:Sorry Beard-ALL credibility on judging Pizza is now gone
NY Sausage varies greatly but generally it is awful. However, i havent been anywhere where it is consistently good.
Much of what you like is based on what you ate growing up- After all dog, eyeballs, brains, testicles, mushy peas and even Lima beans are coveted in some parts of the world.
Sorry Beard-ALL credibility on judging Pizza is now gone
NY Sausage varies greatly but generally it is awful. However, i havent been anywhere where it is consistently good.
Much of what you like is based on what you ate growing up- After all dog, eyeballs, brains, testicles and even Lima beans are coveted in some parts of the world.
And besides, whoever said that pizza as a whole "must be judged" by the quality of one optional topping -- sausage?
I judge pizza by itself -- the dough, the cheese, the sauce, and the way it's prepared. And, to me, both NY and Chicago style of pizzas have their merits. I wouldn't judge Chicago style pizza as a whole because I don't like the peppers that were put into it. I'd just order it without the peppers.
-Sean
As soon as I got home I put a Gino's frozen sausage and cheese, deep-dish in the oven and I wasnt disappointed.
Beard
Did you know they don't eat pizza in Italy or Sicily?....
....they just grow them there for export.
Actually, that's a myth here in the US, probably perpetrated by the "oneupmanship" that goes on between Chicago and NY. No less than Anthony Bourdain found this out when he went to both Italy and Sicily to get this (among other) questions answered, and found out they actually *do* make pizza there, but it's prepared a little differently, and it's eaten differently, too. It more resembles NY pizza than Chicago, but it's eaten with knife and fork. Anthony got to the bottom of the question whether the pizza was purely for tourist satisfaction, or really was invented (and still is a mainstay) there. The latter was the case.
-Sean
All I'm hearing about in this thread is pizza from NYC, Chicago, and New Haven. :angry:
The best of these people come to Toronto's Little Italy to train.
....and Freddy, anybody who eats frozen pizza deserves to have double anchovies.
pt....reads Freddy's book every night till his lips get tired
Let me be clear. I make my own Italian bread and my own pizza dough --- and I make my own Italian sausage. I also only use the finest ingredients, Cento San Marzano tomatoes, imported scamorza and top bread flour. So I aint going into anything blind.
Frozen pizza is usually garbage, and for good reason. I wont touch it --normally. However, has anybody that is dissing me for it had any deep dish Gino's East frozen pizza? The deep dish thicker crust is conducive to freezing and then baking and is double George. And if I dont feel like driving miles down to Michigan Ave, paying exorbitant parking rates, and I am in a hurry for deep dish in 45 minutes, then I will go into the freezer.
BTW, there is also two other pizzas that are frozen and when done are very close to the original experience in the restaurant, Vito and Nick's thin crust (not available everywhere), and the pizza that was deemed the best frozen pizza in the USA, Home Run Inn brand. Both very good in a pinch.
Beard
PS I only knocked the sausage at Joe's and Supremo, the pizza, sauce and cheese was excellent.
Hey Freddy ...when you're bathing in champagne and aunt peg is feeding you grapes by hand, just remember us little people back on the plantation.
Mr Bond I am afraid these young 'uns dont have a clue as to who Aunt Peg is.
My old backer was a Porno producer. Here is the little darling.
Beard
C'mon Freddie. Lou Malnatti's is up there no? They sell the half
Cooked frozen, it's my go to.
Kevin.
C'mon Freddie. Lou Malnatti's is up there no? They sell the half
Cooked frozen, it's my go to.
Kevin.
Except Lou is a little stingy on the sauce So, last time I ordered one, I ordered xtra sauce.. and they charged me ?? Yep, it's a listed added ingredient..wtf ?? oh well, it was worth it.. I wanna taste some tomaters when I'm eating a pizza, otherwise it's just cheese bread