Common misconceptions

ratcues said:
One get on regular basis is for replacement butt caps. People think there are completely finished parts that are added onto the cue once it is done. I have to explain that most all cue parts are over-sized and turned along with the cue.
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You mean to tell us, that you cuemakers don't turn down the forearm and just screw it together?!?!?! Sheesh!! :killingme:

I've been told, more than once, by the typical joe blow... That I should just slip a new ferrule on when it's time for a new tip.
And I've also been asked why is my cue "custom" if it doesn't have a screw on tip!
 
Heard this one yesterday. Guy comes by to have a tip changed, he asks which tip I would recommend for his jump/break. He further states he cant jump consistently with the current tip. I suggest the j/b tips I carry and suddenly he is an expert, " That tip is to hard, you need a softer tip to grip the cue ball when jumping" :banghead: :bash:

Apparently I was sober when I explained why the harder tip is best.
 
Putting rings at the a-joint of a titlist maintains the full splice hit.

I have seen a lot of titlist short splices. :)

JV

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How about this very common statement I hear:

"All I want is a lathe to do tips, ferrules, taper shafts and maybe a little joint work and I want to keep the cost under $500."

I have had 100's of calls with similar requests even though the prices of my lathes are on my site.

Or this one:

"Why do I need a full blown cue building lathe just to build shafts from scratch?"
 
EightballJunkie said:
This should be fun, adding to the list of fallacies.

-steel joints hit harder
-big pin cues are stiffer
-Tweeten tip cement is specially made for cue tips so it's the best thing to use. I hear this one from just about every clown who claims to be a tip installer after buying a $10 Tweeten re-tip kit

...and one of my favorites.

-Lucasi personally makes all 'his' cues. Imagine having to tell every kid in the country there's no Santa, that's pretty much how I feel every time I go to a bar tournament :D
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What! He didn't personally make my cue? I'm crushed.
 
ratcues said:
What do you hear most often? Here are a few off the top of my head.

-heavier cues break harder
-soft tips 'grip' the cue ball longer
-Elkmaster tips are impregnated with chalk
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Really? I love the feel of a hard tip but I was lead to believe that a soft tip does put a little more spin on the cue ball.So i use soft tips.
I really like the feel of a hard tip. So I'm wrong?
 
I want to ask if this is a Myth or not.

Meucci had a Red Dot shaft that is died Blue. They came this way.


When I worked in a couple of Funeral Homes, people would always tell me that bodies can sit up on the embalming table.

I would always tell them, number one, if they could, I wouldn't be working here and number two, if they can, they ain't dead yet.

Sorry, I don't have any good cue stories like you guys. All pretty funny.

People in my city are pretty good but there is the odd cue expert.
 
When my father was a teenager one of his first jobs was to drive bodies to the funeral homes. On one of his early rides he hit a bump and the body sat up about 8 inches off the gurney and stayed that way. He was so freaked when he looked in the rear view mirror that he pulled the vehicle over and left it there, found a pay phone and called in to say he was quitting.
 
JAlan said:
Had a guy tell me once 20 something years ago that his 5 piece pool cue was MUCH better than the 2 piece McDermott D series cue I was using at the time. His 5 piece cue had more pieces so therefore it hit the balls much more accurately than my cheap 2 piece cue did.....

I beat him out of $7 playing a dollar a game 9 ball, he went to his truck to get his money and I'm still waiting for him to return.

Somehow he even snuck his cue out with him...damn those high end easily concealable 5 piece cues! :(
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What kills me is when they have the case w/them and add suspense after screwing one piece after another together.....much to do about nothing...then beat him out of the 7 dollars etc....
 
There was a guy who used to play in a Sunday tourney, that would come in carrying his little Backgammon size case holding his 5 piece cue.

He was all pleased as punch that he found this at a pawn shop.

Trouble was, altho his taste in pool cues left something to be desired, he was still a pretty decent player.

But I know what you mean. If a 2 piece piece cue is good, a 5 piece is just great.

Ramon wood is so pretty when the table lights hit it just right.

Not that it is a misconception anywhere else other than our Home Bar for league.

There is a guy that has custom made Milk Duds made for him. These Milk Duds take 6 months to make due to the long process of pressing them multiple times.

These tips are worth $300 each.

BTW, this guy also plays with a $360 Predator sneaky that has been appraised at $1500.00. Go figure eh. The last time I talked to him, he just finished gambling with a guy for $1100.00 a ball.
 
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measureman said:
Really? I love the feel of a hard tip but I was lead to believe that a soft tip does put a little more spin on the cue ball.So i use soft tips.
I really like the feel of a hard tip. So I'm wrong?
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The dwell time on the cue ball between a hard tip and a soft tip is negligible. The spin is created by friction from the chalk so it could be that your soft tip is groomed differently than the hard tip. Harder tips take a little more work.
 
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ratcues said:
The dwell time on the cue ball between a hard tip and a soft tip is negligible. The spin is created by friction from the chalk so it could be that your soft tip is groomed differently than the soft tip. Harder tips take a little more work.
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What I like to show people who talk about soft vs hard tips is that it is mostly sound. Like golf balls "feel" is the sound that they hear. Harder sounds harder and softer is a most quiet sound.

I deal with this all the time when it comes to golf.

Try having a customer or friend hit a ball with either ear plugs in or headphones on and ask them to tell you the difference...90% cannot tell the difference because they cannot hear the hit.


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measureman said:
Really? I love the feel of a hard tip but I was lead to believe that a soft tip does put a little more spin on the cue ball.So i use soft tips.
I really like the feel of a hard tip. So I'm wrong?
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If a tip made contact with the ball for a longer duration, that duration would also be represented by some amount of distance traveled. If the cue ball is traveling down table with the tip in contact with the same impact point, how could it be spinning?
 
ratcues said:
The dwell time on the cue ball between a hard tip and a soft tip is negligible. The spin is created by friction from the chalk so it could be that your soft tip is groomed differently than the soft tip. Harder tips take a little more work.
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Hey Ryan ! Thanks for tip :rotflmao:
I once had a Moori quick on my cue that i loved.Then my tip guy talked me into soft tips. They are fine but just did not have that solid feel of the Moori quick.
 
-- Chalk before each shot
-- You should atleast get a $100+ cue if you're entry-level or serious about your game
-- OB shaft "technology" is *not* a marketing gimmick
 
I once had a guy take the time out of his busy day to tell me how my pool cue was made. As in the cue I made from scratch from billets of wood, brass rods, aluminum rods, composite rods and made everything for myself. When I corrected him on a few points, he ignored me as if my having the same name as the signature on the cue and everybody telling him that I make cues was moot.
 
ratcues said:
What do you hear most often? Here are a few off the top of my head.

-heavier cues break harder
-soft tips 'grip' the cue ball longer
-Elkmaster tips are impregnated with chalk
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My favorite one is

Customer: Do you know what your doing?

My answer every time is:
Nope But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! :)
 
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