Ron Swanson
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Why do you think continually offering ridiculous bets unrelated to the original premise makes you right?
Shane's racking "trick"
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Why do you think continually offering ridiculous bets unrelated to the original premise makes you right?
Yeah exactly.
What?
Two things...
1. The fact that SVB is a great player with or without the racking shenanigans proves nothing either way.
2. As has already been pointed out, throwing out meaningless bets unrelated to the matter at hand doesn't mean you win an argument.
Mean while the last two matches at least, they inspected every rack, sometimes even to the point of breaking Shane's rhythm which was unfair, how long does it take to inspect a rack. He still won. Why ?
He out broke, out shot, and flat out played his opponents, winning even when the highest TPA of the tournament was shot against him, and started out down 4-1 in the final.
I remember when Neils used to just shake hands when he lost, not come with the sour grapes, BS. Why don't you stay in your country and play in the big tournaments they have there if you don't like the tournaments here in the U.S. Was once a fan (even sent an email to you to congratulate you when you won the World 9-ball) but no longer a fan of yours.
PS. I can't remember, maybe you could remind me. Did Shane post sour grapes on FB when he got knocked out of the World 9-Ball and you were winning ???
I would think you would be the last to criticize Shane, someone who puts in so much hard work and practice (on and off the table). I was wrong !
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two more things....
1. saying a player rigs the rack doesn't make it true.
2. pointing out that the world isn't barred from playing him is simply a statement of fact. go get your magic rack and $50k.
He is he Champ
Shane is "once" again the U.S. Open 9 Ball Champion. 3 peat.
Until they (people in charge of event) come up with something to combat "tricky" racking it is what it is.
How about during the player meetings they discuss how to fix this problem. That's if it really is a problem or is it just sour grapes.
Shane deserves to be congratulated for his historic feat, not criticized.
You don't win 3 U.S. Open titles in a row with just a great break.
Shane is "once" again the U.S. Open 9 Ball Champion. 3 peat.
Until they (people in charge of event) come up with something to combat "tricky" racking it is what it is.
How about during the player meetings they discuss how to fix this problem. That's if it really is a problem or is it just sour grapes.
Shane deserves to be congratulated for his historic feat, not criticized.
You don't win 3 U.S. Open titles in a row with just a great break.
didn't say it makes me right and I didn't offer a bet thaiger. but it does relate to the original premise, which his that Shane can only win if breaks rigged racks. being willing to take on all comers with a magic rack and neutral racker would prove that this assertion is not true.
2 reasons.
1. They had to break from the rail at WCOP.
2. They had to break harder to get 3 balls past the head string at WCOP, vs. 3 balls past the side pockets at the US Open.
They didn't have to break from the rail, sometimes they broke from inside, I think Ralf Souquet tried it. Rail break is even easier for making the 1 ball to the side.
There were neutral rackers with triangles and not many chances of re-racking.
Some racks were not good, resulting in bad break outcomes.
Pressure is also different due to short sets.
These are some of the facts that affected the break at the WCoP.
Shanes rack was inspected many times during the match, by Dennis and Jay with only one request from Dennis to rerack. They were looking for something rigged, I also think the magic rack can be rigged. Dont get me wrong, i do think Shane and Mike D are the best rack riggers in the game.
I don't even see how this should be a topic for discussion. The US Open is a MAJOR tournament, not some Saturday night bangers tournament at a local bar. The US Open should employ referees that are well versed on all of the rules to make sure that all rules are being followed. The referees should also be racking the balls. At some point the US Open had it right. If you watch a match from when the US Open was televised, you'll see the referee racking each game.
Shane actually did respond before it was removed. He said something fairly neutral, that he advocated for the magic rack because it is more neutral. Considering Niels directly accused Shane of cheating, it was a fairly calm response.
Make sure you let em know that the next time you see them. And let us all know how it went.
Since you mentioned the World Cup I'm assuming you watched it. Therefore you already know that a neutral racker was used and that not all of the racks that were broken were good racks, not to mention the players needed to get balls past the headstring.
I agree Neils should congratulate Shane for his stellar play in the open. To accuse him of cheating for having a better break than him "is just WEAK!!!"
Glad to see things getting calm in this.