Brunswick model ID 9ft

Gold crowns ...gc2s, I do believe.

$500 is a good price, but get the best mechanic you can to bring it over and set it up. A little extra cash on the front end will save you a lot of money and disappointment for a looooooong time.
 
Black-Balled said:
Gold crowns ...gc2s, I do believe.

$500 is a good price, but get the best mechanic you can to bring it over and set it up. A little extra cash on the front end will save you a lot of money and disappointment for a looooooong time.
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GC 3's, you can tell by how long the side skirts are.
 
Certainly missing the leg levelers. Unless some other modifications where done, just thinking about shooting on those tables that low hurts my back!!!! Maybe that was done to make the ping pong top more functional. +1 for blackball's post couldent agree more. Make sure you ask the seller if he has any leg levelers if not price check them and add to your overall cost before making a decision.
 
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Anyone buying a table from someone they don't know should say, "Iet me cut the cloth off and if evrything is OK I'll buy it." Johnnyt
 
Early model GC 3's came with Brunstone, and the feet were more than likely taken off so they could slide the tables over out of the way for something else in the way, or someone with a degree decided to lower the tables down by taking them off, then leveling the frame between the pedestals and frame because they had mostly kids to short to play on them...LOL
 
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Very odd setup there with no feet. I am guessing their clients were not very savvy about pool. You may also need rails for them aside from just the cloth. Either way if they have the feet seems like an OK deal.

When Boston Billiards closed down they were selling their GCIII tables for $750 already taken apart with re-usable cloth on some of them and decent rails, with feet hehe.
 
GC I's and II's had the old style/best ball counters (these pics show the newer style overseas counters) GC I's and II"s did not have colored corner pocket irons, my guess they are III's or a mixture. or later? If it's a matched slate set (all slate sets.... have a chalk type ''('' mark on the back underside to confirm they are a MATCHED SLATE SET.... ck em before U buy, and of course make sure there are no cracks in your slates and the dowel pins in the slates are intact, if that's all there then it's a good table. If the tables have been recovered allot, the slate frames will show the wear from years of cloth replacement, but no biggie here, unless the wood is shot, then you'd replace or repair your slate frames at the same time, poplar wood I think, no biggie.
 
realkingcobra said:
Early model GC 3's came with Brunstone, and the feet were more than likely taken off so they could slide the tables over out of the way for something else in the way, or someone with a degree decided to lower the tables down by taking them off, then leveling the frame between the pedestals and frame because they had mostly kids to short to play on them...LOL
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Glen,

Since these were commercial tables, if the rails are screwed up from too many staple jobs, is gluing a good technique for fastening new cloth?

Chris
 
I bought my gold crown 2 from a pool hall. figured out years later I have mismatched rails that play uneven. Flip them over and last letters in the serial number are the series. All rails should have same last letters for the same series. That would be a good sign at least you will have a consistent set of rails.
 
Island Drive said:
GC I's and II's had the old style/best ball counters (these pics show the newer style overseas counters) GC I's and II"s did not have colored corner pocket irons, my guess they are III's or a mixture. or later? If it's a matched slate set (all slate sets.... have a chalk type ''('' mark on the back underside to confirm they are a MATCHED SLATE SET.... ck em before U buy, and of course make sure there are no cracks in your slates and the dowel pins in the slates are intact, if that's all there then it's a good table. If the tables have been recovered allot, the slate frames will show the wear from years of cloth replacement, but no biggie here, unless the wood is shot, then you'd replace or repair your slate frames at the same time, poplar wood I think, no biggie.
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Don't know why any guessing would be required, I've said they're GC 3's, and GC 3's with real slate, not the Brunstone, no longer had the pin and dowels. With that many tables in a room, then broke down and put in storage, nothing but the frames are more than likely matched up any more. People that come and buy a pool table already in parts, look for the best looking rails, rail blinds, and pedestals....never mind looking to see if they match up.
 
realkingcobra said:
Don't know why any guessing would be required, I've said they're GC 3's, and GC 3's with real slate, not the Brunstone, no longer had the pin and dowels. With that many tables in a room, then broke down and put in storage, nothing but the frames are more than likely matched up any more. People that come and buy a pool table already in parts, look for the best looking rails, rail blinds, and pedestals....never mind looking to see if they match up.
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What are your thoughts on matching rail sets? If you have two of the six rails in a different series, will that increase the odds of inconsistencies in rubber/wood damage?
 
Cardigan Kid said:
What are your thoughts on matching rail sets? If you have two of the six rails in a different series, will that increase the odds of inconsistencies in rubber/wood damage?
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Absolutely, right now I'm dealing with GC1 and GC 2 rails, figure 8 nut plates an floating nuts on the same tables.
 
So I went to take a look at the tables. They don't have the feet, which from what I can tell online are going to be another 200$. They sais they took off all the ball returns and instead put drop-pockets in. They're not sure if the returns are back in storage or not. They're already taken apart, so that might make it easier for a company to move and set-up, but from one of the comments earlier, it seems like that might be worse because of the possibility of mismatched parts... They're all GC3s so would there be any mismatching even if they're from different tables?

I guess what I'm getting down to is... is this a good deal or should I pass it up in hopes of something better down the line? There's a local table company in Elkhart that gave me a flat rate of 675$ for teardown, transport, and installation with cloth. So it would be 1175$ to get this thing in my basement and useable. Plus I've gotta get rid of a 7ft. down there currently, and don't think the moving company wants a 70s slate master craft as partial trade for their service lol.

Thanks for all your help and input guys! I appreciate it!!!
 
Walt69 said:
So I went to take a look at the tables. They don't have the feet, which from what I can tell online are going to be another 200$. They sais they took off all the ball returns and instead put drop-pockets in. They're not sure if the returns are back in storage or not. They're already taken apart, so that might make it easier for a company to move and set-up, but from one of the comments earlier, it seems like that might be worse because of the possibility of mismatched parts... They're all GC3s so would there be any mismatching even if they're from different tables?

I guess what I'm getting down to is... is this a good deal or should I pass it up in hopes of something better down the line? There's a local table company in Elkhart that gave me a flat rate of 675$ for teardown, transport, and installation with cloth. So it would be 1175$ to get this thing in my basement and useable. Plus I've gotta get rid of a 7ft. down there currently, and don't think the moving company wants a 70s slate master craft as partial trade for their service lol.

Thanks for all your help and input guys! I appreciate it!!!
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Have the cushions been replaced on them rails in the past? The cushions on the GC 3 s failed on most of them built at that time, turning rock hard. You might want to add up another $300-$400 for that repair in your overall cost.
 
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