Yes, that is where the cue rests.
90/90 pivot
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Yes, that is where the cue rests.
Rick, I'm not trying to be harsh. Just telling it like it is. You say you know the difference, and that you watched the video. There were only a couple of points made. How could you say that you missed both of them if you watched it to actually see what was being said?
When YOU try it at the table, let us know what you find.
Neil you do what you want, believe what you want, I'm ok with that. :smile:
n/m...........
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You have not changed. Again you put your words into another's mouth.
I too was trying to not be harsh. I did NOT say that I missed them. I said. 'If I missed something. I'm sorry.'
Parallax is when ONE(1) object is viewed from TWO vison points & when the two sightings are compared the object appears to be in different referential positions. Since we have two eyes we have parallax vision but our brain transforms that so that we see an object or a point in just one location.
Parallel is two different straight lines that are equal distance apart for their entire length.
You had a line from CB edge to OB edge & then you positioned your head & I would think that to mean your vision center on the line of center CB to center OB. That would be a line that is PARALLEL to the edge to edge line. Then you said that you see that edge to edge line that the cue is also on in your peripheral vision. I believe you said that you were looking center to center. Again that would be a parallel line to the edge to edge line.
So... where are you looking at ONE point from TWO different sources of vision points that would be parallax?
I know you have two eyes & that is parallax vision but the brain combines the two or we would have 'double vision'.
You made no mention of closing one eye or the other or anything like that.
So where is the parallax part of your premise?
Physically there IS a difference if the cue is pivoted very near the cue ball vs being pivoted far from the cue ball. It can be easily seen when the pivot distances are great but can be more difficult to see if the pivot distances are closer together but a difference is still there all else being equal.
I'm not saying that the method will not work & will not pocket the ball because there is a margin for error.
I am not perfect & I'll state again IF I missed something, I'm sorry. But instead of the insults, why not just tell me what it is I missed.
I'll admit this, I made a mistake & the mistake was to confer with you at all.
In any case, say whatever other insults you wish, veiled or outright, because I'm done with you. It's like someone else said & I tend to agree, it is sometimes impossible to have a rational discussion with you.
Again have a good evening & sleep well.
Rick, you have just proved that you can not view anything without your prejudice. Only want to nitpick. You can quote the definition of parallax, even describe where I was using it, but you are not capable of grasping the concept.
Stick with whatever you are using. These systems seem way beyond your grasp. You have repeatedly shown you are not here to try and learn, only to nitpick.
The mistake was mine in responding to you. I had hoped you had changed, but, I was wrong on that.
That's the truest words you have spoken Neil. No matter what you provide as fact, he will continue to nitpick and do his passive aggressive thing to be as irritating as possible. As long as people continue to acknowledge his posts and argue with him, he considers it a win. This is the definition of an internet troll. Ignore him and he will eventually go away and search for other 'victims" to troll.
Hey Neil, my friend, this was a great video!!!
Maybe just what I missed to be consistent with 90/90, I always started on 90/90 (or edge/edge) line so I probably was ok when I picked the correct bridge distance, not so ok otherwise, this must fix it, I'll try it in a day or two for sure!!
Thanks again!! :thumbup:
P.S. What is your "vision line" for other 2 alignments??
P.P.S. How is your health, doing ok?
Best regards from Bosnia!
Maybe just what I missed to be consistent with 90/90, I always started on 90/90 (or edge/edge) line so I probably was ok when I picked the correct bridge distance, not so ok otherwise, this must fix it, I'll try it in a day or two for sure!!
Thanks again!! :thumbup:
P.S. What is your "vision line" for other 2 alignments??
P.P.S. How is your health, doing ok?
Best regards from Bosnia!
Vision line is found same way I showed here. center to center, or center to edge, ect.
Hanging in there on the health. Little worse, but still getting by.
I presumed so...and center CB to half-a-ball outside the OB edge for your vision line for 90-reverse-90, yes?
I never use 90 reverse. I'll just shift to CTE if I can't get it by center to center, center to edge, or center to 3/4 (or 1/4 looking the other way).
Viewers should look closely at the pivot at 3 mins 23 seconds into the video. That is not a bridge pivot, it pivots from the rail, 12 inches or so back from the bridge, which requires a huge bridge shift.
Thats what Im trying to figure out. I made some pictures that illustrate the bridge being on various lines, and whether or not a pivot can bring the cue onto the shot line. FOrgive the pictures, the balls arent exactly to scale, and the balls arent exactly set up identical to the video.
CB edge to OB center, the line you would place the bridge hand on is almost parallel to the shot line, no pivot will bring you to the shot line.
CB edge to OB edge, the lines do cross at a point, and a pivot from that point is possible to be on the shot line.
I put the arrows in there as reference points of bridge distances, and they demonstrate that pivoting from those points wont work. Only a bridge pivot from that one spot on that one alignment offers a feasible pivot point.
There has to be more going on that Im not seeing. I can make 90/90 work, but I use more starting points than edge and center.
Chuck
Just goes to show that you are going to see what you want to see. Pivot from the rail?? If that was true, the butt would stay at the same place on the rail, yet it doesn't. But, go ahead and keep knocking what works, maybe make some cute little diagrams to disprove it. I don't care. The info is there for those that actually want to improve. For guys like you and English, it's just some more fodder for you to make fun of while your games stay where they are at.
Thats what Im trying to figure out. I made some pictures that illustrate the bridge being on various lines, and whether or not a pivot can bring the cue onto the shot line. FOrgive the pictures, the balls arent exactly to scale, and the balls arent exactly set up identical to the video.
CB edge to OB center, the line you would place the bridge hand on is almost parallel to the shot line, no pivot will bring you to the shot line.
CB edge to OB edge, the lines do cross at a point, and a pivot from that point is possible to be on the shot line.
I put the arrows in there as reference points of bridge distances, and they demonstrate that pivoting from those points wont work. Only a bridge pivot from that one spot on that one alignment offers a feasible pivot point.
There has to be more going on that Im not seeing. I can make 90/90 work, but I use more starting points than edge and center.
Chuck
Draw all the pictures you want to. It only shows that you fail to understand the two simple things I pointed out in the video.
Thats what Im trying to figure out. I made some pictures that illustrate the bridge being on various lines, and whether or not a pivot can bring the cue onto the shot line. FOrgive the pictures, the balls arent exactly to scale, and the balls arent exactly set up identical to the video.
CB edge to OB center, the line you would place the bridge hand on is almost parallel to the shot line, no pivot will bring you to the shot line.
CB edge to OB edge, the lines do cross at a point, and a pivot from that point is possible to be on the shot line.
I put the arrows in there as reference points of bridge distances, and they demonstrate that pivoting from those points wont work. Only a bridge pivot from that one spot on that one alignment offers a feasible pivot point.
There has to be more going on that Im not seeing. I can make 90/90 work, but I use more starting points than edge and center.
Chuck
Mr. Fields,
I do not agree with Neil's premise as he presented it but in all due fairness IMO your first diagram is not indicative of what Neil was proffering.
Neil still had the cue stick on the edge to edge line but with his vision on the CTC line. Or...did he?
As Neil has stated I do not understand his premise as presented unless he is saying that his eyes being offset gets the cue stick not actually ETE but is instead angled inward off the ETE line.
If one sets the cue ETE & then moves the vision to the CTC line, then the cue stick would 'appear' to be aimed off the ball.
If one first sets the vision on the CTC line & then purely visually aligns the cue stick to where it 'appears' to be aligned ETE it would actually be aligned somewhere between the edge & center of the OB.
I do not want to put words into anyone's mouth & I do not know what Neil intended to communicate.
However, I do not think your first diagram conveys what Neil intended.
But like Dennis Miller so often says & some refuse to say, I could be wrong.
Best Wishes,
Rick
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I tried it some last night .
It ruins my mechanics and body alignment .
I like falling on the line of shot when I get down.
Pivoting changes my arm slot and skew the cue on the follow through.
I tried swaying to the pivot line too but it was just too much movement for me .
The system looks like it works on most of the shots at those angles though.
I don't what the difference is in lining up edge to edge or center to center looking at the two balls straight though.
It ruins my mechanics and body alignment .
I like falling on the line of shot when I get down.
Pivoting changes my arm slot and skew the cue on the follow through.
I tried swaying to the pivot line too but it was just too much movement for me .
The system looks like it works on most of the shots at those angles though.
I don't what the difference is in lining up edge to edge or center to center looking at the two balls straight though.