2014 us open unpaid prize money

Wow hold on a minute. You make some good points but saying Jay dropped the ball is not. Jay is just an employee TD and Barry is his employer. Money/ finance is controlled by Barry. The blame falls 100% on Barry unless someone can prove that he has a partner or accomplice who is involved in his conman antics . You are inferring that Jay is somehow guilty by association which is absurd. What next ? Blaming those who attended the event or those who paid for PPV for supporting the event ?

Never said Jay stiffed anyone. That lies on Barry. But choosing to support someone who repeatedly lies and stiffs people year after year lies on Jay. He said himself he took Barry's word in the face of common sense and evidence.

Jay said he wanted to do best for the players. Considering Barry's known history, best for the players would have been all promised prize money in escrow. Jay didn't insist on that. He isn't alone, neither did the other employees, officials, WPA, players, or most of the fans.

Jay has specifically stated that he didn't want to be associated if Barry was going to stiff anyone, and that he wanted what was best for the players. With those being the goals, he clearly and unequivocally made the wrong decisions for his goals, and has said as much and seems to regret his choices. Anyone that can't see that taking the word of someone who has never told the truth is a bad idea is just blind. Anybody that can't see that if you want what is best for the players in regards to this tournament then you absolutely must insist on escrow is just blind.

I'm going to say it again, for the twentieth time. I'm not saying Jay is to blame for the stiffing. I'm not saying Jay is a bad person. I am not trying to rake him over the coals. He made a mistake, one he admits to and seems to regret, and I am simply trying to get people to wake up and stop supporting Barry until he decides to start escrowing ALL of the promised prize money in advance due to his proven untrustworthy track record. I won't be responding to anymore mentions of Jay because that is not what this is really about, nor where the focus should be. If you or anybody else don't think he made some poor decisions in the case considering his own goals then we will just have to agree to disagree and let it be.

Now, how do we prevent Barry from ever being able to do this again? I say fans, players and employees alike should insist on escrow from here on out or boycott watching, playing, or working it. What is your suggestion?
 
Never said Jay stiffed anyone. That lies on Barry. But choosing to support someone who repeatedly lies and stiffs people year after year lies on Jay. He said himself he took Barry's word in the face of common sense and evidence.

Jay said he wanted to do best for the players. Considering Barry's known history, best for the players would have been all promised prize money in escrow. Jay didn't insist on that. He isn't alone, neither did the other employees, officials, WPA, players, or most of the fans.

Jay has specifically stated that he didn't want to be associated if Barry was going to stiff anyone, and that he wanted what was best for the players. With those being the goals, he clearly and unequivocally made the wrong decisions for his goals, and has said as much and seems to regret his choices. Anyone that can't see that taking the word of someone who has never told the truth is a bad idea is just blind. Anybody that can't see that if you want what is best for the players in regards to this tournament then you absolutely must insist on escrow is just blind.

I'm going to say it again, for the twentieth time. I'm not saying Jay is to blame for the stiffing. I'm not saying Jay is a bad person. I am not trying to rake him over the coals. He made a mistake, one he admits to and seems to regret, and I am simply trying to get people to wake up and stop supporting Barry until he decides to start escrowing ALL of the promised prize money in advance due to his proven untrustworthy track record. I won't be responding to anymore mentions of Jay because that is not what this is really about, nor where the focus should be. If you or anybody else don't think he made some poor decisions in the case considering his own goals then we will just have to agree to disagree and let it be.

Now, how do we prevent Barry from ever being able to do this again? I say fans, players and employees alike should insist on escrow from here on out or boycott watching, playing, or working it. What is your suggestion?

My suggestion is to get Barry out of pool altogether by the players just not entering the tournament. Only in pool could someone like Barry get away with this year after year. What is the WPA good for? Taking a fee and running? Johnnyt
 
Every year. Same old song and dance.

It's not rocket science.
I mean, if every single pool player is gonna just keep on showing up to get bent over and tortured by Barry, maybe Barry's actually a smart guy after all.

Stop blaming Barry already. He will never change.
Blame everyone who enables him instead of shutting him down.
 
Every year. Same old song and dance.



It's not rocket science.

I mean, if every single pool player is gonna just keep on showing up to get bent over and tortured by Barry, maybe Barry's actually a smart guy after all.



Stop blaming Barry already. He will never change.

Blame everyone who enables him instead of shutting him down.


Superstar,
IMHO, Players join the US OPEN not only because of the prize money but also because of the rankings.
 
Barry needs a swift kick in the nut's for this mess again. This is a LARGE black eye for pool and he should be ashamed for it.
 
[Quote ]Now, how do we prevent Barry from ever being able to do this again? I say fans, players and employees alike should insist on escrow from here on out or boycott watching, playing, or working it. What is your suggestion?
This is the only way to fix this problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
My memory is pretty bad but didnt the UPA try to do something with Barry? A few players even boycotted?

Were they not universally scolded by the AZB community for daring to demand things of Barry? "It's Barry's tournament-he can do what he wants blah blah blah"
 
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Roberta only asked for my email to pass it on to Barry. Nothing else.

Good that is a start. Even though would be better if you also have Barry's email and mobile.
Keep this thread updated tomorrow on progress so that it is not forgotten- It is already many days. Last time Oscar Dominguez complained about his father Ernesto bounced check, Barry acted very fast and let everyone know he was going down to bank etc.

:D
 
My memory is pretty bad but didnt the UPA try to do something with Barry? A few players even boycotted?

Were they not universally scolded by the AZB community for daring to demand things of Barry? "It's Barry's tournament-he can do what he wants blah blah blah"

You mean years ago during CW time when he pressed Barry hard. Barry was probably still rock star then.
:D
 
Better be careful folks. I got a pm from HQ about my choice of words pertaining to BB. If someone has BB's email i'd like to have it so i could personally tell him what a d%^*%$g he really is.
 
Better be careful folks. I got a pm from HQ about my choice of words pertaining to BB. If someone has BB's email i'd like to have it so i could personally tell him what a d%^*%$g he really is.

so YOU, got a response,
but the OP has NOT????
 
Good that is a start. Even though would be better if you also have Barry's email and mobile.

Keep this thread updated tomorrow on progress so that it is not forgotten- It is already many days. Last time Oscar Dominguez complained about his father Ernesto bounced check, Barry acted very fast and let everyone know he was going down to bank etc.



:D



Thank you. I will surely let everybody know about the progress.



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No. I had some choice( too choice i guess) stuff about BB the other day and got scolded by AzHQ. Sentiments were deemed ok but my oh so flowery use of the english language were ruled to be out of bounds. Are there any nicer synonyms for "douchebag" ? My next post about this will require some help from Mr. Roget.
 
I got scolded/hammered earlier for my comments about BB. It never ceases to amaze me how people migrate to the Open like it's some kind of pool Mecca knowing full well that the prize money is iffy at best. You think the pro snooker players would fade this crap? Not for one second. They'd hire(because THEY actually make $) a pitbull lawyer and sue big-time. Pro pool in the U.S. is a joke.

Better be careful folks. I got a pm from HQ about my choice of words pertaining to BB. If someone has BB's email i'd like to have it so i could personally tell him what a d%^*%$g he really is.

You speaking in cryptic verses like in spy movie LOL. Like you cannot talk too much or you will be shot LOL
Who is HQ that dared to scold/hammer you?

Here is Barry's email qmasters5612@gmail.com according to this thread from 7 months ago http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=365883
Don't know whether he is still using that email
:D
 
I don't understand this.We have seen this idiot screw people for years and nobody does anything about it.The first time it would happen down here,Barry would be visited by a committee to convince him to pay up immediately.If he refused he would be given a free 20 mile swim in the GULF.Unfortunately a situation we see very often down here.
 
so YOU, got a response,
but the OP has NOT????

No. I had some choice( too choice i guess) stuff about BB the other day and got scolded by AzHQ. Sentiments were deemed ok but my oh so flowery use of the english language were ruled to be out of bounds. Are there any nicer synonyms for "douchebag" ? My next post about this will require some help from Mr. Roget.

gotcha. ;)
yáll handle things like we do in the South....
 
I was not implying anything in a disrespectful manner.
It's too bad this same issue seems to repeat itself every year. I watched a few PPV's of this years US Open and was witness to Barry's drunk ramblings which was a complete turn off and very unprofessional. The guy is in love with himself and thinks its all about him.

Until the players boycott the event this will probably continue.
I thought I had read that all the prize money was in an escrow account?
Maybe that was last years US Open, boy time flies :D

I will state in advance that I am not an attorney. Having said that I would point out that Barry Behrman gave bad POST DATED checks. It is not a criminal offense to give a bad post dated check The bad check law pertains to a check that is represented to be good the time it was given. The pure nature of the post dated check explicitly stating that the check is worthless and you are taking this at your own risk.

This is a civil matter. GOOD LUCK because Behrman, who I detest, is likely judgment proof. Plus the checks are likely written on the corporation which insulates Behrman personally. Just my opinion.
 
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