Taiwan TOI

Thanks Rick,

Some like words, some like pictures etc, different explanations hit different targets.
Or - "every road leads to Rom":).

Thanks, I know, busting my balls up to keep up with you guys, right know we can call it "Swenglish" :p. Training... :-).

Take care

Chrippa

Thanks for the chuckle.

As soon as you get rid of the SW you'll have it.

Best,
Rick
 
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Thanks for the chuckle.

As soon as you get rid of the SW you have it.

Best,
Rick

Thanks, "aim to please" :thumbup:

Have a great evening Rick, I´m on "overtime" here and need to hit the sack. 02:00 Wsenglish time...... :wink:

Chrippa

I tried....
 
Thanks, "aim to please" :thumbup:

Have a great evening Rick, I´m on "overtime" here and need to hit the sack. 02:00 Wsenglish time...... :wink:

Chrippa

I tried....

Now you just have a bad accent.:wink:

But you made me laugh again.

Sleep Well,
Rick
 
taking the time to ask me questions will speed up anyone's process

This is what makes the difference, the players that take the time to write and ask questions.

The TOI teaches the basic foundation, however, however there are also positive side-effects, like better focus - taking the time to ask me questions will speed up anyone's process. I've answered literally thousands of questions on AZ and in private emails and PMs.

Here's one that came in earlier, thanks Steve, and I appreciate your messages.

Re: TOI - Today, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Steve Dickey

CJ,

Just wanted to thank you for your contributions to the forum
. I bought your CD and even though I was not currently using TOI as a rule, I would on certain shots.

After reading a recent thread where the OP posted a link to a match and commented how both players used TOI, I noticed how purely the CB came off the rail as a result of checking the CIS.

So, again, I incorporated a TOI into my practice in attempt to duplicate what I saw in hopes of improving my position play. The first thing I noticed was I was using too much inside. I had to increase my focus very significantly on each shot, to achieve just a small "touch" to get the correct action off the rail and pocket the ball.

There seems, for me, to be an unintentional consequence to this "increased focus", that I don't recall ever hearing anybody mention before. The result being that I feel as though my game has jumped a level in the last few days!

Focusing so intently on just a small "touch" OI, and compensating my aim for the squirt has increased my pocketing. I now feel laser focused and confident I'm going to pocket the OB.
So, thanks again, and if I ever make it to TX again I'll look you up for a lesson, Steve
 
Steve Dickey:
I had to increase my focus very significantly on each shot, to achieve just a small "touch" to get the correct action off the rail and pocket the ball.

There seems, for me, to be an unintentional consequence to this "increased focus", that I don't recall ever hearing anybody mention before. The result being that I feel as though my game has jumped a level in the last few days!

Focusing so intently on just a small "touch" OI, and compensating my aim for the squirt has increased my pocketing. I now feel laser focused and confident I'm going to pocket the OB.
I seem to recall it being mentioned a time or two. :)

pj
chgo
 
Looking back I can't help but think the chains of mediocrity had been broken

There are many reasons it's good to develop a "master shot," just like there is in baseball, tennis, golf, and even a football team will often have a "go to play".

Consistency is simply doing the same thing over and over. When someone just plays the table and shoots their shots according to the table they have to use a variety of spins, speeds and calculate many differences in shot patterns.

We learned what an advantage the TOI style was back on the road, when I was still a teenager traveling around the country making a living at the game. A time when, if I didn't win, the top road players would not want to gamble their money and I'd miss out on the knowledge I would gain from their mentor-ship on the road.

I recall at the age of 19, "Omaha John" and I were touring around on a road trip and ended up in a small bar in South Carolina. The owner of the bar was a BIG gambler and would take the 5 and the break from anyone playing on the bar table with the Big Cue Ball.

We had been going through a tough time and I was "breaking even" with everyone. Usually I would get ahead, then start "letting up," they would come back, "get even" and quit. This was getting annoying and I was beginning to question if I had enough "heart," to be a champion player.

This was a big thing in the gambling days, if you have the heart to close someone out. To put them away. And it was happening again, I had got up over 2k for $200 a game and now we raised it to $300. a game and the guy beat me 7 IN A ROW and we were just $100. winner.

Omaha John came up to me and said "if you're ever going to be a great road player you better do it now. I'm not out here "for my health," I have a wife and kid at home and I have to win, breaking even is for "suckers!"

He was serious, so, standing my cue against a near by stool, I stopped playing and went to the bathroom - it was "now or never," I thought, looking in the mirror, starring straight into my own eyes - "do you really want to be a pool player, do you really have what it takes?" I hesitated slightly, waiting for the answer to come from my "Inner Self"..... not the answer I wanted to hear, I HAD to know the truth....I needed to know and my life would change from that moment.

Finally the answer had come - I knew in my "heart of hearts" that the moment had arrived. "The Moment of Truth," I couldn't be a sucker, "stuck" at my current level, struggling to break even and making up excuses.

There was only one choice - to become a winner and break out of that "victim level" and do whatever it would take to learn the Truth about pool and what it takes to be the best.

I made that decision right then because I had to. And it's a decision that continues because life's much more about the "journey," than the "destination." Life is the best teacher, and at that moment my life was the game and for an instant they melded into One...The Game is the Teacher!

Often times we are held back because we don't need to win, we don't have to get better. I didn't have the luxury that day and I thank Omaha John for putting me in a situation where I had to be honest with myself. No one else matters when you're trying to get to the "next level,"{in life} it's all about ourselves.... it's about looking ourselves in the mirror and "real eyesing" that the answer we've been searching for is not outside, it's inside ourselves.

I went back out there and was like an entirely different person. John had been telling me to stop spinning my ball and playing low percentage shots....so I did. Others had made comments about my game that I had ignored because of my ego, so I incorporated those suggestions too - my perception had changed, the Game had given me a vital spiritual experience.

From that point I beat the guy out of over 8K and he looked like he had been drained of all his energy. I didn't care what it took I made myself shoot the correct shot, in the right way and forgot forever my childish reasons for not playing the Game correctly. To be a Champion at anything we must keep doing "the next right thing," whether we like it or not.

Looking back I can't help but think the chains of mediocrity had been broken, and I had started to become a player. From that moment on I had a "6th Sense" about pool and knew what I HAD to practice to improve - and what I needed to ignore. "The chain breaks at it's weakest link" and that became the motto of my practice routines.


I'll always remember that lesson Omaha John Shuput and the Game taught me in that bar in South Carolina.... and the mirror that reflected what I needed to have "eyes that could see my self". 'The Game is the Inner Teacher'
 
Does not inside add cling
Cling (an excessive amount of throw due to an unusual amount of friction at the ball contact point, usually due to a chalk smudge) should not be confused with a normal amount of throw. Inside can definitely cause added throw (along with squirt and swerve, combining to give net CB deflection) on some shots, especially small-cut-angle shots. Inside can also reduce throw on some shots (especially larger cut-angle shots with a lot of spin). All important throw effects related to all types of spin and english, backed up by supporting resources, can be found here (in items 16-37 in the numbered list beneath the videos and illustration):

squirt, swerve, and throw effects

Enjoy,
Dave
 
In both cases I favor the inside of the pocket

Most pros hit the nine this way. It's a legitimate question I think.

The two ways to utilize the '3 Part Pocket System' is with TOI and TOO. I use low english with both ways, and prefer the outside english if I want to throw the object ball rather than deflect it.

In both cases I favor the inside of the pocket, one is done with veer, the other with veer and spin. I prefer the way that requires the least calculation and the one that is my "master shot" - Earl Strickland's "master shot" is outside, mine is inside, we both look at the pocket as a zone, and that's vital to playing at our level.
 
Cling (an excessive amount of throw due to an unusual amount of friction at the ball contact point, usually due to a chalk smudge) should not be confused with a normal amount of throw. Inside can definitely cause added throw (along with squirt and swerve, combining to give net CB deflection) on some shots, especially small-cut-angle shots. Inside can also reduce throw on some shots (especially larger cut-angle shots with a lot of spin). All important throw effects related to all types of spin and english, backed up by supporting resources, can be found here (in items 16-37 in the numbered list beneath the videos and illustration):

squirt, swerve, and throw effects

Enjoy,
Dave

Who came up with the terms "squirt, cling and swerve"?
 
Who came up with the terms "squirt, cling and swerve"?
I think Byrne first used the term "squirt" in print, but I'm not sure. I think Byrne might have also been the first to use "cling" (AKA "skid" or "kick") in print, but again I am not sure. Many pool players use the term "deflection" to describe the combined effects of squirt and swerve, but it can be helpful to separate and understand the individual effects. The terms squirt, swerve, and throw are certainly very popular and common in instructional books, articles, and videos, and have been for many, many years, and their use has grown as more and more people now better understand and recognize the effects.

Regards,
Dave
 
I think Byrne first used the term "squirt" in print, but I'm not sure. I think Byrne might have also been the first to use "cling" (AKA "skid" or "kick") in print, but again I am not sure. Many pool players use the term "deflection" to describe the combined effects of squirt and swerve, but it can be helpful to separate and understand the individual effects. The terms squirt, swerve, and throw are certainly very popular and common in instructional books, articles, and videos, and have been for many, many years, and their use has grown as more and more people now better understand and recognize the effects.
For those interested, some rationale supporting the use of these terms can be found here:

cue "squirt," "deflection," "stiffness" confusion

squirt, swerve, and throw confusion

Regards,
Dave
 
The two ways to utilize the '3 Part Pocket System' is with TOI and TOO. I use low english with both ways, and prefer the outside english if I want to throw the object ball rather than deflect it.

In both cases I favor the inside of the pocket, one is done with veer, the other with veer and spin. I prefer the way that requires the least calculation and the one that is my "master shot" - Earl Strickland's "master shot" is outside, mine is inside, we both look at the pocket as a zone, and that's vital to playing at our level.

If inside is your master shot, why shoot that 9-ball with outside. It is the game ball and could have easily been shot with TOI.
 
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