Taiwan TOI

highly effective paying one pocket to "kill" the cue ball behind the "nest".

Mitchxout said:
Because a stun a shot has to be cut more and TOI is aimed thick. Not the same.
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That's right, with the TOI you can get the same results, however, you do have to hit the cue ball more "crisply".

Since the shots are hit slightly thicker you can create some unusual angles. This is highly effective paying one pocket to "kill" the cue ball behind the "nest".
 
CJ Wiley said:
That's right, with the TOI you can get the same results, however, you do have to hit the cue ball more "crisply".

Since the shots are hit slightly thicker you can create some unusual angles. This is highly effective paying one pocket to "kill" the cue ball behind the "nest".
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Aiming with TOI, you know what side (intended) of the OB the CB will travel after contact for you will never (seldom) hit the CB on the wrong side.:)
 
LAMas said:
Aiming with TOI, you know what side (intended) of the OB the CB will travel after contact for you will never (seldom) hit the CB on the wrong side.:)
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Do you mean "you know what side of your intended target the OB will travel"? If you mean that, then your statement is false.

Do you mean for a straight shot? If you mean that, then your statement is also false.

If you don't mean either of these, then I miss your meaning.

pj
chgo
 
CJ Wiley said:
That makes sense, you probably didn't see anyone you couldn't beat either. ;)
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Oh no, quite to the contrary. There were tons of guys there that could beat me. World beaters, short stops, money players, unknown killers, strong local guys... Frankly, I was lucky to make it to the 6th round and cash again.

Like I said, I just didn't see any of those guys using TOI. With all the threads and posts you make about it, I thought for sure it was just that I hadn't noticed guys using it before. But that just wasn't the case.

Lou Figueroa
 
The "eyes that can see" come from experience, not from reading my posts.

lfigueroa said:
Oh no, quite to the contrary. There were tons of guys there that could beat me. World beaters, short stops, money players, unknown killers, strong local guys... Frankly, I was lucky to make it to the 6th round and cash again.

Like I said, I just didn't see any of those guys using TOI. With all the threads and posts you make about it, I thought for sure it was just that I hadn't noticed guys using it before. But that just wasn't the case.

Lou Figueroa
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No, it's not possible to see the training process these players use, you are seeing the results. The "eyes that can see" come from experience, not from reading my posts.

Maybe at some point you can reach the 6th round and "cash" with skill rather than luck.
 
Learning to create approach zones is vital to continued improvement

LAMas said:
Aiming with TOI, you know what side (intended) of the OB the CB will travel after contact for you will never (seldom) hit the CB on the wrong side.:)
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Yes, you will, in effect take the under-cut shot out of your game and that's essential.

Once you instill in your mind the relationship between the TOI and the speed of the shot you will be able to hit different parts of the pocket at will. This takes some time, just like it does in golf and other sports and games.

Learning to create approach zones is vital to continued improvement, the game is much more than hitting a ball straight with a stick....at the higher levels of development it's actually better to force the ball off the straight, reference lines.

This is why golfers draw and fade the all and tennis players use slice, topspin, and "american twist" (on serves).
 
CJ Wiley said:
That's right, with the TOI you can get the same results, however, you do have to hit the cue ball more "crisply".

Since the shots are hit slightly thicker you can create some unusual angles. This is highly effective paying one pocket to "kill" the cue ball behind the "nest".
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Just like a stun shot.

Oh that was a dick statement you made toward Lou.
 
CJ Wiley said:
Maybe at some point you can reach the 6th round and "cash" with skill rather than luck.
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All I can say is that I'm sorry that none of the strong players I observed were using the technique you so strongly advocate.

And as an amateur player, I'm happy with my performance at an open tournament. For me, it is a big accomplishment.

Lou Figueroa
 
Ron Swanson said:
I've made sarcastic remarks, too.
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That was a straight jab at him, not a sarcastic comment. Everyone who reads it can see it, but you believe whatever you want. FTR Lou I would be ecstatic to make it that many rounds as well as an amateur...absolutely something to be proud of.
 
lfigueroa said:
All I can say is that I'm sorry that none of the strong players I observed were using the technique you so strongly advocate.

And as an amateur player, I'm happy with my performance at an open tournament. For me, it is a big accomplishment.

Lou Figueroa
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I'm glad to see you done so well. :)

Were the stronger players you refer to the same players who beat you or players that you weren't playing?

When I created this thread, I was referring to the Taiwanese players in the video I posted...not DCC.

Whether somebody uses TOI on one shot or as a system, it is a useful tool. I don't know why people keep knocking it. If it is not for you, so be it. I don't bash any system...if it works for you, use it. If not and it works for somebody else, I'm not going to bash it. I've never made a comment about any system unless I've actually put some time and effort into it and never advocated anything unless I personally thought it helped me.

Aloha.
 
we are individuals that differ in ideas, behaviors and beliefs.

lfigueroa said:
All I can say is that I'm sorry that none of the strong players I observed were using the technique you so strongly advocate.

And as an amateur player, I'm happy with my performance at an open tournament. For me, it is a big accomplishment.

Lou Figueroa
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Congratulations, that is a big accomplishment - you're the one that said it was "lucky," however, I sensed some sarcasm, so ......you know the rest. ;)

You have made it clear that you're a very intelligent person, this can be a Blessing in many instances. You've also made it clear that professional pool players may not be so fortunate, I'm sure they appreciated you Blessing them with your presence.

We are individuals that differ in ideas, behaviors and beliefs. What's good for one, may not be ideal for another, that's what makes life and/or human-beings interesting, adventurous, and even charismatic..

'The Game is the Teacher'
 
Before everyone gets all excited, he is the one that said "frankly, I was lucky"

Spimp13 said:
Wow.......
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Before everyone gets all excited, he is the one that said "frankly, I was lucky" - calm down, take a deep breath and let your mind be soothed in comfortable relaxation. :)


Oh no, quite to the contrary. There were tons of guys there that could beat me. World beaters, short stops, money players, unknown killers, strong local guys... Frankly, I was lucky to make it to the 6th round and cash again.

Like I said, I just didn't see any of those guys using TOI. With all the threads and posts you make about it, I thought for sure it was just that I hadn't noticed guys using it before. But that just wasn't the case.

Lou Figueroa
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lfigueroa said:
All I can say is that I'm sorry that none of the strong players I observed were using the technique you so strongly advocate.

And as an amateur player, I'm happy with my performance at an open tournament. For me, it is a big accomplishment.

Lou Figueroa
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Lou,

We don't always see eye to eye on everything but you're correct &

I Congratulate You!

Again, Congratulation Lou! Good Playing!

Best 2 You & Yours,
Rick
 
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