Hard to say. That's one photo of a short 11 year old kid (probably younger when the shot was taken) reaching way out to the middle of a 5 x 10 table. If he stood tall for that shot he'd need to use a 3' long bridge. Lol
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Hard to say. That's one photo of a short 11 year old kid (probably younger when the shot was taken) reaching way out to the middle of a 5 x 10 table. If he stood tall for that shot he'd need to use a 3' long bridge. Lol
Yes, I forgot to mention how cool that poster is! And the Greenleaf quote says it all about the kid.
That's a cool story. I can't remember who it was but someone on this forum said they played Mosconi an exhibition as a kid and confided to Mosconi he was nervous prior to the match. Mosconi said something like "Don't be nervous kid, nobody is here to see you".
I never met him by my perception is he was a perfectionist and may have had mild Asperger's syndrome.
As a pervasive developmental disorder, Asperger syndrome is distinguished by a pattern of symptoms rather than a single symptom. It is characterized by qualitative impairment in social interaction, by stereotyped and restricted patterns of behavior, activities and interests, and by no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or general delay in language.[27] Intense preoccupation with a narrow subject...
Socially impaired, preoccupied with a narrow subject - 14.1
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A lot is said and written about Mosconi not being very nice. Probably true.
But the time I played him an exhibition game he was nice enough to acknowledge one of his competitors from the old days. Mosconi asked Sam "One Poke" Fauver to stand and announced him as one of the best players to ever come out of New Jersey.
But the time I played him an exhibition game he was nice enough to acknowledge one of his competitors from the old days. Mosconi asked Sam "One Poke" Fauver to stand and announced him as one of the best players to ever come out of New Jersey.
I think that that would be a really tough argument to support, given that there is a picture of him, demonstrating what the accompanying text says, on almost every single page of both books.
Lou Figueroa
Plus, Mosconi was paid $50,000 per year just to wear a jacket with the Brunswick logo. I don't think Willie was selling many books out of his car.
Good point Lou. Seems *I always doubted Mosconi had little participation in the book* just lacks real facts but feelings! The guy was a Giant in his times. Give credit where it is due.
At the various exhibitions I saw him at he never hawked a book or even a photo.
Lou Figueroa
had to steal
the CB
Just trying to understand the circumstances better. The game you played with him was the exhibition, or he played you sometime before or after the exhibition? How did this game come about?
When Mosconi showed up at a room, his "exhibition" consisted of playing a local 150 points or so of 14.1. Then he'd shoot a dozen or so trick shots, including a number of very cool masse' shots.
Lou Figueroa
One more pic of Willie
Here's a shot of Willie taken by my friend Mike Haines at an exhibition in San Antonio back in 1987. Since Lou mentioned masse shots, I thought I'd show you guys a photo of him shooting one.
Here's a shot of Willie taken by my friend Mike Haines at an exhibition in San Antonio back in 1987. Since Lou mentioned masse shots, I thought I'd show you guys a photo of him shooting one.
Folks:
Phil Capelle has a review of Willie's fundamentals (using the videos that we're discussing right here in this thread) and it was posted up on NYCGrind.com:
http://nycgrind.com/the-latest/willie-mosconis-fundamentals/
Enjoy,
-Sean
Phil Capelle has a review of Willie's fundamentals (using the videos that we're discussing right here in this thread) and it was posted up on NYCGrind.com:
http://nycgrind.com/the-latest/willie-mosconis-fundamentals/
Enjoy,
-Sean
Here's a shot of Willie taken by my friend Mike Haines at an exhibition in San Antonio back in 1987. Since Lou mentioned masse shots, I thought I'd show you guys a photo of him shooting one.
Great shot, Bill. I think that's the one where the CB goes scooting up table at speed to make another ball in the corner.
Lou Figueroa
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What don't you understand? I already posted the circumstances.
A Brunswick bowling alley added pool tables in an area.
Mosconi worked for Brunswick as some kind of PR agent.
He was on exhibition duty.
He beat my brains out in the pool match, ran his mouth, and was a jerk. A lousy PR person.
He, like most mouths, could dish it but couldn't take it. I gave the "rough hustle" right back to him......."don't dog this one, big shot"
He went berserk with his mouth and came close to getting his ass whipped.
About the 6th time I watched this video. He shot sideways, I'm more comfortable that way also. He died of a heart attack and I noticed in that video he was breathing heavily with the outbreath sounding noticeably. His follow through was exceptional good. He really brought a table to it's knees. Seems shorter players have a slight advantage over tall. Nice looking man, impeccable. Looked like he still enjoyed his skill. The era from the 40's to early 80's was the greatest period in the History of the United States. We will never see those days again.
You gotta be kiddin'! Talk about stubborn. He used a slip stroke several times. On the second shot of the first rack (T=1:34) there is a clear overhead that shows he slips his hand at least 4". There's a clear view of his slip stroke at 3:24 (along with the accompanying sound), and another overhead at 3:41 shows the same thing.
Second rack - at 4:43, 5:52, 6:16, 6:30, and 7:10 all show slips of 1" up to about 4". Below is a composite of three screen captures of the last shot at 7:10. Pretty clear there's a slip of over an 1" since his hand ends up almost off the butt of the cue. You can see he jumped up on the shot, too. lol
The video quality sucks, but the audio is good enough you can easily hear his hand slide along the linen wrap numerous times, even when you can't actually see his back hand. That sound is unmistakable once you've used the stroke yourself a bit (or heard it in the shots where he clearly used it in the video clip). Based on what I can see and hear, Willie not only used a slip stroke, he used it to some degree the majority of the time.
Open your eyes and ears, Lou, your memory is clouding your judgment. If you can't see what everybody else can see, well... we can't see it for you.:shrug:
