How many are using FB groups to sell now instead of AZ for sale subforum?

[azhousepro]

Dave, can you point me to that add-on?

Mike

It has been mentioned quite a few times that there is a setting/addon for a vbulletin forum that
allows anyone to post in a certain thread but only when the op posts does the thread get bumped
to the top. Combine that with only allowing 1 post per 48 hours per thread from the op and there
you have it.

gr. Dave

 

[azhousepro]

Sometimes changes have to happen in order to correct a problem. Until there is a better solution than just letting the gamers take over the subforum, then we have to leave it the way it is now.

The way I see it, some users don't like the changes. Others do like them. We are never going to make everyone happy.

Mike,

The bottom line is the changes didn't improve the Wanted/For sale section.. It made it worse...

Yes!
There were people doing whatever it took to maximize their exposure , and there's always going to be a few that will try to beat any system.. Who cares??

A forum cannot succeed without participation..
Change it back, and work on a solution.. Right now you have nothing more than a failing sub forum..

 

[azhousepro]

I have to say that I completely agree with this. This was a valid helpful conversation about an issue before ugotda7 jumped in and derailed things. He had help in derailing, but his was the first post that got things going in the wrong direction here.

Mike

Well, I guess you're the new poster child of why NPR needs to go, you're doing exactly what the problem is with NPR members....debating the subject instead of offering a solution to Mikes request...the OP.:thumbup:

 

[azhousepro]

Believe me, we have more than enough traffic to take care of our advertiser base. If getting rid of NPR allows me to get rid of the headaches involved with all of the reported posts in NPR, then it has to be a good thing.

Mike

The subject was the Wanted / For Sale Forum.

But in post #36 he said he likes the idea. However, since NPR creates a lot of traffic (imagine that) for this website which in turn probably helps generate ad revenue which supports AZ I doubt he will. And why would he......because a few uppity people here get butt-hurt that others discuss things beyond pool? OMG.....the horror!!!

Yeah, likewise, I'd rather not have you work on my table now.......to put it politely I'd prefer to give my money to someone else.

 

[Double-Dave]

Dave, can you point me to that add-on?

Mike

Hi Mike,

Sorry, no. I have seen it on I think the vbulletin.org platform but can't find it right now.
But, even if you can't find it there are many programmers that can code it for you for not too much money, or even free.
I am pretty sure it is out there though.

gr. Dave

 

[realkingcobra]

I'm not sure I understand the comparison here. Over bumping is not an issue outside of the for sale area.

How do you punish the person breaking the overbumping rules? Do we just assume that anyone posting "that looks like a nice cue" is a friend of the seller, trying to bump it for them?

Mike

Mike, think about this. A for sale section for the "fast lane" in which posters have to pay a monthly fee before they can post their items for sale, no limit of bumps, but after 30 days they have to renew their monthly fee or their posts become dead, can't be bumped up anymore.

"Slow lane" sales forum, anyone can post what ever they're selling, trading, or wanting to buy, but can only be posted once and can't be bumped.

 

[UGOTDA7]

I have to say that I completely agree with this. This was a valid helpful conversation about an issue before ugotda7 jumped in and derailed things. He had help in derailing, but his was the first post that got things going in the wrong direction here.

Mike

No - it got derailed when Realkingcobra brought up NPR as if it had anything to do with this thread - when it didn't.

 

[UGOTDA7]

Believe me, we have more than enough traffic to take care of our advertiser base. If getting rid of NPR allows me to get rid of the headaches involved with all of the reported posts in NPR, then it has to be a good thing.

Mike

Then why don't you?

 

[snowmon34]

Sometimes changes have to happen in order to correct a problem. Until there is a better solution than just letting the gamers take over the subforum, then we have to leave it the way it is now.

The way I see it, some users don't like the changes. Others do like them. We are never going to make everyone happy.

What problem??
Over bumping??
Really???

Your changes have affected the traffic to the 2nd most visited sub-forum on your site..

 

[UGOTDA7]

I have to respectively dissagree, the NPR forum draws a completely different group of people/posters/debaters that really have nothing to do with pool, who for whatever reason can't stand not sticking their noses in other people's business, and honestly feel they have every right to do as as AZB is open to the public. The problems this brings about is a lot of hijacked threads for argument sake, off topic discussion, insulting other members....which in turn causes other contributing members to no longer want to participate in AZB any longer. If AZB no longer has the members who START threads worthy of conversation, then all that's left is all those that really have no thoughts of their own to try and post something.

This is a great example of the true problem here - people talking about things and making judgments about others when they have no clue.

How do you know that NPR is a completely different group of people/posters/debaters that really have nothing to do with pool?

You don't.....and it's not accurate by a long shot. Yet you feel the need to say nonsense like this. Why is that?

 

[UGOTDA7]

What problem??
Over bumping??
Really???

Your changes have affected the traffic to the 2nd most visited sub-forum on your site..

Reducing traffic does seem like an odd way to go about things.

Top four forums as of now:

Main Forum - 2,078,695 posts.

Wanted / For Sale - 1,037,422 posts.

NPR - 877,296 posts.

Cue & Case Gallery - 245,805 posts.

 

[pocket]

I wonder if pulling the npr forum would create a headache for mods. Those that post in npr regularly would be most likely begin posting in the main forum, creating a nightmare to police.

 

[avmaster]

I wonder if pulling the npr forum would create a headache for mods. Those that post in npr regularly would be most likely begin posting in the main forum, creating a nightmare to police.

I think a number of them already do.

 

[Spimp13]

I think a number of them already do.

+1

While it doesn't bother me, it does appear to bother some regular members and arguing/bashing seems to breakout daily...I'm not necessarily saying it is all NPR's fault (obviously it takes 2 to tango)...just some of the posts seem to be from a few NPR regulars that solely want to argue or get their post count up vs actually contributing to that forum. Just my 2 cents and not calling anyone out in particular.

 

[realkingcobra]

I wonder if pulling the npr forum would create a headache for mods. Those that post in npr regularly would be most likely begin posting in the main forum, creating a nightmare to police.

I don't think so, it would be like dropping the main forum, very few NPR' posters would even know it's gone seeing how it has nothing to do with all the topics they submit to in the NPR forums. Most that post in the rest of AZB would never miss the NPR forum. All they would end up doing is looking elsewhere to find other public forums to post in....SOMEWHERE ELSE.:thumbup:

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

Think that might have anything to do with the fact that all of your friends on FB see a note at the top of their page reminding them that it is your birthday?

To be fair Jimmy, AZ always remembers to wish me a Happy Birthday.

At my age, Birthdays are the last thing on my mind, but at least when I check my email in the morning of my Birthday, there is always one waiting for me. Still makes me smile.

So I have received about 6 AZB ones so far. Hope I can make it for another ten at least.

I am pretty much all cued out, and with no Hall in town any longer, doesn't make sense to be buying more. I still go over and look at the Sale Forum on occasion. Yeah, and with approx 13 K invested in the hobby, I should actually start building my own anyway.

I can still find cues if I wanted to purchase one. I don't see the problem over there, but then, I don't hang out as much as others do.

 

[Sev]

Mike, I would never say Facebook is better than AZB in the same breath, but Facebook at least allows me to kick out the trolls in a NY second:thumbup: I owe AZB a lot for letting me build my reputation at a top pool table mechanic, and I know I'm years ahead because of it, I just get sick and tired at how long some things are allowed to continue on at times is all.....you HAVE my support 100% and even though many on here think when ever I post something to do with my work, all I'm doing is advertising for more work....don't know me at all. I post here to educate people, not to find more work.....I have all I can handle and always will because I'm dedicated to the work that I choose to do.

Bottom line is, I'm not really liking the direction AZB has been taking over the last few years, but I feel it's more of a customer based problem rather than a management situation.

I still feel that if AZB were to drop the NPR' forum....the problems with AZB would clear up on their own, as all those posters would go away, most don't give a damn' about pool anyway, which is why they have nothing to contribute, yet want to argue anything and everything in the main forum because it's nothing more than another place they can get into a debate with someone.

And just how exactly does NPR effect the rest of the site pray tell?

NPR is the 14th listed forum on the site. And you have to scroll down to see it. Its not exactly placed in your face.

NPR has never screwed up a sale for me. However the asshat cueologists that believe they know ever example of everybodies work have.
They have caused doubts and soured deals for me.

One time, with the help of other members, I had to dig up both Fry and Wolf from Scruggs shop to prove the that he pantograph they used didnt always make a perfect insignia. It was to late by then.

And as far as contributing. Many poster in NPR contribute the other forums. Perhaps not regularly to meet your high standards. But it does not alter the fact that they do.

Chris Hightower, Chuck Starkey and a couple of other builders post over there. Are you suggesting they dont contribute to other areas of AZB?

I am eager to hear your explanation how one sub forum that most members dont even realize exists is acting as the event horizon of a black hole that is sucking the entire site down into eternal darkness.

P.S.

I case it has not dawned on you. Consider this a contribution to the main forum.

 

[Sev]

You have no idea how much I like this idea. Originally, the NPR section was set up to give people to go and vent a little steam.

Personally, I stay as far away from that area as I can unless I am looking at a reported post.

Yes but ever once and a while you come out to play. :smile:

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

I still feel that if AZB were to drop the NPR' forum....the problems with AZB would clear up on their own, as all those posters would go away, most don't give a damn' about pool anyway, which is why they have nothing to contribute, yet want to argue anything and everything in the main forum because it's nothing more than another place they can get into a debate with someone.

"Says The Pot".

Hey, I haven't been banned from AZ yet. How many for you? I still post in the Main, but mostly in NPR.

The guys in NPR play pool. Just don't use the Forum to talk about it. I would bet that most in NPR, including myself, play more pool than you do.

I have only seen on the odd occasion that anyone from NPR comes over to the Main, and then, don't come over just to fight.

Until Dave got rid of a few Trolls and Permanently Banned a couple more, The Main is pretty quiet now.

And we tend to handle our own Shite in NPR just fine. Outta sight, outta mind in a way. There is just as much or maybe even more bickering in several other Forums than ours. Not much name calling either. Mike had to remind someone just the other day but that is not common. It's more debating current events than anything else. At the end of the day, everyone are still Friends for the most part. Very little animosity.

I do believe that you are grossly over exaggerating how things really are.

And, you are most welcome to keep your pictures and condescending remarks to your Face Book page. Members in the Main got quite tired of it a long time ago.

You have been one of the biggest instigators on the Main. But then, that is why I called you POT, Glen.

 

[dom_poppa]

This thread is full of giggles. We have a guy making a thread here about going to FB and selling there but he takes the time come back to AZB. For Sale section is perfectly fine. Dealers like to use it as a playground to chat and overbump their overpriced stuff. If you are doing a great job selling on FB then by all means keep doing it.

I also find it funny that people like to call out the NPR guys. There is so much to chat about pool that it gets tiresome.