AzB's Dumbing Down
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The shot circle is correct because you ripped it from one of my posts and plopped it on your site.As example, let's look at the very first diagram on my CTE resource page:
Is this diagram wrong?
How about the following diagram on the CTE resource page that was actually posted by you?
Is this diagram wrong also?
Again, I am happy to let people judge for themselves.
Let it go,
Dave
Of course it's reasonable. I'd vaporize the group of them in a subtle real-time point by point, PH.Ds and all. That's why.
Really?
The worst part of all of this is that the post about AZ dumbing down is contributing to the problem. Not necessarily the OPs fault, but its astounding.
The worst part of all of this is that the post about AZ dumbing down is contributing to the problem. Not necessarily the OPs fault, but its astounding.
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As opposed to having to put those words into print with time for thoughtful consideration? That makes absolutely no sense.
Only in Cyberland can a discussion of dumbing down seamlessly transition into one on aiming.
If you know your stuff, you don't need time to answer...you can just freely discuss.
CJ,
I would add and I bet you would agree, that the tool one uses to calculate those odds (the mind, brain, subconscious, gut?)...whatever it is *develops* along with the game itself. I believe the mind and intellect is quite a thing, with all sorts of analogs in the body. Certain physical feelings feed into this amazing, nearly miraculous computer. I think the ability to grab onto some "feeling" that a certain shot will succeed is something that emerges when you start to reach the higher levels of play. I'm sure many people have had the experience of a little internal dialog like this:
"well, this is a long distance super thin cut with tricky position. Smart move is to play safe. But damn it I just *KNOW* I'm going to hit this perfectly". And you do.
Now the "data" really doesn't support the success of this shot, but *something* inside *knows* you will succeed. What is that? My guess is that a top pro has this feeling more than I do, which is more than a beginner might.
Agree CJ?
KMRUNOUT
Actually, I think it is common knowledge that often very intelligent people do not have the very best social skills. I recall reading the Guiness Book of World Records in 6th grade, and I alway remember the part under "smartest person" where they talked about how very intelligent people don't always recognize people's inability to grasp what to them is obvious.
On the other hand, to paraphrase Jesus, you should help the stupid instead of ridicule them for being stupid. While I love this advice, the ability to do this is not really a measure of intelligence but rather compassion. I suppose an argument could be made that compassion is a component of intelligence, but I think that argument gets pretty far off from this topic.
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Every time a discussion heats up, the old dividing lines of the forums become apparent. It is a wonder the trolls even bother inventing new strategies. Three simple letters are all you need to rile people up into a frenzy...For or against, it doesn't matter, you will get your fill...
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I'd love to see that, really:smile:. It would be a minor miracle if we could put this subject to bed once and for all. I'm also curious as to how you are going to explain the CTE visuals (guess I'll have to wait and see). I used to think it was like the picture below (I know it's crude), but apparently it doesn't work like that. If it did there would only be a few possible alignments...Apparently you have to "roll over" the visuals, a concept that nobody has been able to explain in a satisfactory manner.
I'd love to see that, really:smile:. It would be a minor miracle if we could put this subject to bed once and for all. I'm also curious as to how you are going to explain the CTE visuals (guess I'll have to wait and see). I used to think it was like the picture below (I know it's crude), but apparently it doesn't work like that. If it did there would only be a few possible alignments...Apparently you have to "roll over" the visuals, a concept that nobody has been able to explain in a satisfactory manner.
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I agree with this as well. Also, it should be noted that other country's English styles differ. I believe in the UK they may do it your way.
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I "go for it" every day, right here - without lending false legitimacy to sideshow theatrics.
If Spidey (or Stan or CJ, both of whom have tried the same dodge) has something convincing to say he'll say it here. If not he'll resort to theater.
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Sometimes, yes. If situations come up that one hasn't before considered, aren't completely based on reality or need further explanation, one would need to be a debate-team savant or they're doing it wrong. This is obviously a topic that needs further explanation, otherwise not only would Dave not need to say or show much, but Stan would not need to follow up a dvd with direct communication with others. It's too easy to talk someone into circles. This topic goes in circles and still hasn't changed in the years I've been around. I hardly think that a streamed, on-the-spot debate will change that any more than Lou vs Barton proved the case for/against cte.
Looks like toi got upstaged in this thread by cte. Good thing i didn't have money on that.
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Is that really a transition?
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You mean this wasn't a thread on the disastrous effects No Child Left Behind have had on AZB?
I'm just waiting for barboxes and APA to come up!
Now you've done it, lol!
Now that you mention it, I personally love 8-ball on a bar box. To me it is the most interesting and fun game to both watch and play, especially at a high level. Sure, top players should run out almost every rack (assuming they have a consistent and effective break), but that's fun to see also (especially when they are forced to creatively solve problems along the way).I'm just waiting for barboxes and APA to come up!
Concerning APA, I think it is a great thing. They have done a great job getting a vast number of people interested in playing the game. Is that a bad thing?
Regards,
Dave
FYI, even though I wrote this, it isn't technically true (per the data on the 8-ball break stats resource page).
Regards,
Dave