What kind of pool table is this and would you jump on it for $1,500?

But wait for it....that don't include fixing the frame, leg pedestals, Valley leg levelers which make the playing surface almost 32" high....so at 3k now invested, you're not done investing yet;)

Okay, okay...I'll take a Diamond...that's already been...well,uh...Diamondized.
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Now Joey, what kind of a pool table mechanic would I be, if I left this customer to someone else to fix this table, knowing no one else in this country working on pool tables would come to this customers aid and fix it right?

One with a long list and have been set back for years b/c there are too many Fnankenstein tables out there ?
 
One with a long list and have been set back for years b/c there are too many Fnankenstein tables out there ?

But some here on AZ are so sure I'll be out of work in no time, that they think by telling me they'd never hire me....they'll be speeding up my unemployment. ..LMAO
 
But some here on AZ are so sure I'll be out of work in no time, that they think by telling me they'd never hire me....they'll be speeding up my unemployment. ..LMAO

They have no idea what the market is .
There are thousands of hacked tables.
Thousands of Frankenstein tables as well.
And that's just California and Nevada. :D
 
Not a trick question, just looking to see how many AZB members know something about pool tables, seeing how there seems to be so many experts at buying cues, a pool table is the most important part of this game, and cues are worthless without them. And according to some on here, pool table mechanic's are pretty much at the same level of work everywhere, which is why no one seems to think twice about hiring one to work on their pool table (s).

But most of the time we don't control what we can play on unless you're at home, so your pool cue overall would be the more important part. You can't take apart your home table to bring it to a tournament.
 
Fellow comrade and conspirator of all things billiards was out and about, a picker/trader type, calls last Saturday, mid-morning or so, says;
Hey, I found a diamond just like the ones we play at the rab with, the guy(seller) says he doesn’t what to load it up and that he’d take $75.00 for someone to take it.
I said ‘WHAT!’
he says, ‘yep, the cloth and rails are shot but it has the logo and all,
I’m thinking, well, the slate is worth something.
I said, 'do you have room for it?' He says no, u’al have to come get it.
Their up at the lake about 1 ½ hr , so I’m starting to think a change in plans for the day,away
I asked, the slate is OK, right, I kinda got a yep.
My wife is in the room with this conversation and says if you bring home another pool table I’m moving out, I rolled my eyes as she walks out of the room; of course, being a loving responsible caring husband I’m thinking how do I get out to go pick this up but not being it home.
Fellow comrade says, ‘I’ll go talk him and see what I can do’.
End of call, I’m thinking how’s this possible, well it ain’t. He did not call back that day, we talked a couple of days later and says he went to lift it up and to his surprise it had no weight to it, peeled back a piece of felt and behold there it was, particle board. I hope Diamond doesn’t build a novelty type of table, if not; others sure do make a novelty about it and yet Glenn is not a novel man.
 

Without having read any of the responses I will play along. I would say not necessarily. If everything is intact and factory original then of course it is worth $1500.00. But for the average buyer, they will also have to have it moved and set up and possibly more expense depending on the real condition of the table that may not be so obvious.

You do have the consideration that you don't find them around that often and you may be wiling to pay even if it needs a few things. I have overpaid for classic cars because I wanted it and usually was not sorry.

That is a life time table. The new owner once they have that table will not likely ever buy another table. My Gold Crown I have had for 35 years and will likely die owning it. Have not even looked for another table.
 
Without having read any of the responses I will play along. I would say not necessarily. If everything is intact and factory original then of course it is worth $1500.00. But for the average buyer, they will also have to have it moved and set up and possibly more expense depending on the real condition of the table that may not be so obvious.

You do have the consideration that you don't find them around that often and you may be wiling to pay even if it needs a few things. I have overpaid for classic cars because I wanted it and usually was not sorry.

That is a life time table. The new owner once they have that table will not likely ever buy another table. My Gold Crown I have had for 35 years and will likely die owning it. Have not even looked for another table.

For less than 1K today, you can find a GC1 or 2 . Single owner and have not been butchered yet.
 
The really sad thing about this Frankenstein pool table is that even if you brought a pool table mechanic with you to look at it before you paid for it, there's a good 99% chance the mechanic wouldn't see past the fact that it has legs and rails and tell you it was a great deal to jump on....because he can get paid that way. Who ever set this table up at my customers home did absolutely nothing to correct any problems, and never even mentioned that it was a mixture of table parts....which for the most part, represents this industry.
 
I would not have bought it as it appears to be a 9' table and I have a GC I am happy with. If it was a 7' table I definitely would have looked into it. I would want to see it in person though because the 3 big white diamonds on the skirts look funny to me, I dont think I have ever seen that before. I think I would have been able to tell it was butchered but even at that I may still have bought it thinking I could improve on what was butchered and made it an acceptable table. Like someone said earlier, the rails and slate should be worth $1500, it does not bother me that it is a Red Label, we have many Red Label Diamonds in the area, probably many more than Blue Label Diamonds, I would be happy with either.

This question is for you Glen, when a Red is modified to Blue Label specs is the label color always changed?????
 
I would not have bought it as it appears to be a 9' table and I have a GC I am happy with. If it was a 7' table I definitely would have looked into it. I would want to see it in person though because the 3 big white diamonds on the skirts look funny to me, I dont think I have ever seen that before. I think I would have been able to tell it was butchered but even at that I may still have bought it thinking I could improve on what was butchered and made it an acceptable table. Like someone said earlier, the rails and slate should be worth $1500, it does not bother me that it is a Red Label, we have many Red Label Diamonds in the area, probably many more than Blue Label Diamonds, I would be happy with either.

This question is for you Glen, when a Red is modified to Blue Label specs is the label color always changed?????

No, the label can't be dug out and changed, so I sign the rails as modified by RKC.
 
Still feel the same way if the rails are the red label design and I quote you $1,500 to convert them to the blue label, because that would then put you into the table for $3k.

Yup,

Because I know you wouldn't leave until the thing was perfect, even if it took you to within an hour of Christmas morning. :smile:

If you were bringing it, rebuilding it and setting it up? All for 3k?

Kind of a silly question really.

JC
 
Yup,

Because I know you wouldn't leave until the thing was perfect, even if it took you to within an hour of Christmas morning. :smile:

If you were bringing it, rebuilding it and setting it up? All for 3k?

Kind of a silly question really.

JC

Not quite, it was another $1,100 to rebuild the frame, slate backing, steel plate the slates, add my leveling system, and to pick up, then install the table.
 
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But, when it was all finished up, adding up the amount of hours I put into this project, I realized I should have charged more, after all, who else was going to fix this Frankenstein:grin:
 
But, when it was all finished up, adding up the amount of hours I put into this project, I realized I should have charged more, after all, who else was going to fix this Frankenstein:grin:

any other detail on how this came about? Did someone convert from red to blue label rails and sold the red labels to an "entrepreneur" who decided to create a "kit table"?
 
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