Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

Do you use an aiming system or go by feel?

  • I always go by feel

    Votes: 153 53.5%
  • Usually by feel, with aiming systems for hard shots

    Votes: 68 23.8%
  • Usually with aiming systems, by feel for easy shots

    Votes: 24 8.4%
  • I always use aiming systems

    Votes: 26 9.1%
  • I just hit balls very hard and hope they sink

    Votes: 15 5.2%

  • Total voters
    286
Like I said, I'm not looking to discuss or 'argue' with blind fanatics. I've made the point & trust in the general readership's ability to make their own determinations.

Best Wishes to ALL.
 
Like I said, I'm not looking to discuss or 'argue' with blind fanatics. I've made the point & trust in the general readership's ability to make their own determinations.

Best Wishes to ALL.

If that's the case and you're an "honorable man of your word", can we now safely assume this is YOUR LAST POST EVER REGARDING CTE, POSTING IN A CTE RELATED THREAD, OR AN AIMING THREAD WHERE YOU DECIDE TO BRING UP THE SUBJECT OF CTE?

Or is it nothing more than the SAME BS you continue to spew?

[/My name is Rick & I am NOT a certified instructor. Please make your own determinations.B]
 
See how easy it is to say it's objective when phrased this way: "perceptions that can be learned and repeated."?
Easy but wrong. "Perceptions that can be learned and repeated" describes every way of aiming - including pure feel.

Surprised you still don't get this after all these years.

pj <- at least I used to be surprised
chgo
 
Easy but wrong. "Perceptions that can be learned and repeated" describes every way of aiming - including pure feel.

Surprised you still don't get this after all these years.

pj <- at least I used to be surprised
chgo

Two objective perceptions can make every shot on the table AND with no real pivot.
Chew on that one...

Stan Shuffett
 
Easy but wrong. "Perceptions that can be learned and repeated" describes every way of aiming - including pure feel.

Surprised you still don't get this after all these years.

pj <- at least I used to be surprised
chgo

Surprised you keep throwing your same worn out arguments and catch phrases after all these years.

But then again, that's all you have left so I'm not surprised in your last stages of
"Johnson's Last Stand".

(How does that "FEEL" system work again? Does it all start and end with the "lizard" head bob as the key move? Do you have the math to prove it? What proof do you have that it guarantees geometric precision? What happens if one heel of your shoe is worn down lower than the other and it throws the balance of the eye line off?)
 
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How about you just wait for Stan's new book and go from there ?
You're just arguing in circles. Over and over and over again.
 
Two objective perceptions can make every shot on the table AND with no real pivot.
Chew on that one...

Stan Shuffett

So this includes caroms, combos, rail first shots, multi rail banks, safeties.

If you really believe that only two objective perceptions can make all shots including the ones I stated above......its truely sad.

Prove your statement......and just saying so ain't proof.

How can just two shots pictures make every possible shot there is in pool?

Unreal.....
 
So this includes caroms, combos, rail first shots, multi rail banks, safeties.

If you really believe that only two objective perceptions can make all shots including the ones I stated above......its truely sad.

Prove your statement......and just saying so ain't proof.

How can just two shots pictures make every possible shot there is in pool?

Unreal.....

Hi duckie... This may sound unreal to you, but only 2 known objective views are all that's nessesary for any shot that you've mentioned above.
It's not possible, to always aim exactly, at these two sight pictures and pocket balls. Both these objective views are used for exact references.

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Hi duckie... This may sound unreal to you, but only 2 known objective views are all that's nessesary for any shot that you've mentioned above.
It's not possible, to always aim exactly, at these two sight pictures and pocket balls. Both these objective views are used for exact references.

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Concerning my previous comment: Two perceptions are all that is needed for pocketing an OB somewhere for most any CB OB relation. The objective perceptions are NOT used in any way as a reference that is adjusted away from.......

The two perceptions result in properly fixing the cue ball.......for whatever shot.

Stan Shuffett
 
I think you have been looking at the point of the arrow for too long.

So this includes caroms, combos, rail first shots, multi rail banks, safeties.

If you really believe that only two objective perceptions can make all shots including the ones I stated above......its truely sad.

Prove your statement......and just saying so ain't proof.

How can just two shots pictures make every possible shot there is in pool?

Unreal.....
 
Concerning my previous comment: Two perceptions are all that is needed for pocketing an OB somewhere for most any CB OB relation. The objective perceptions are NOT used in any way as a reference that is adjusted away from.......

The two perceptions result in properly fixing the cue ball.......for whatever shot.

Stan Shuffett

OK... I think we both agree in properly fixing the cue ball........for whatever shot.
I think we both agree that CTE works. I don't think we both agree how we do it.

That being said, whatever works best for any individual is by all means the way
that person should play. Maybe we don't agree on that either. If I had problems
pocketing balls I'd definitely try sweeping into the ball. I don't have any problem.

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OK... I think we both agree in properly fixing the cue ball........for whatever shot.
I think we both agree that CTE works. I don't think we both agree how we do it.

That being said, whatever works best for any individual is by all means the way
that person should play. Maybe we don't agree on that either. If I had problems
pocketing balls I'd definitely try sweeping into the ball. I don't have any problem.

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Stan Shuffett
 
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Hi duckie... This may sound unreal to you, but only 2 known objective views are all that's nessesary for any shot that you've mentioned above.
It's not possible, to always aim exactly, at these two sight pictures and pocket balls. Both these objective views are used for exact references.

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Would you care to elaborate?

Is it a CTC objective visual & 'adjust' off of that. Is the other one a CTE objective visual & 'adjust' off of that.

If so, that is much like TOI, but TOI is not a center CB method & requires a very dynamic method of execution & hence is very subjective.

Best Wishes.
 
If one can aim the edge of the CB like left edge of the CB to the left edge of the OB and shoot center CB parallel to that line, he would make a straight in shot.

If one can aim the edge of the CB like left edge of the CB to the center of the OB and shoot center CB parallel to that line, he would make a 30 degree cut shot or a bit less due to CIT.

If one can aim the left edge of the CB at the right edge of the OB it follows that he would make a 90 degree cut.

So all of the cut angles can be derived by aiming the edge of the CB at memorized facets using HAMB across the face of the OB from edge to edge.

But, we all know that.:wink:

Be well.
 
If one can aim the edge of the CB like left edge of the CB to the left edge of the OB and shoot center CB parallel to that line, he would make a straight in shot.

If one can aim the edge of the CB like left edge of the CB to the center of the OB and shoot center CB parallel to that line, he would make a 30 degree cut shot or a bit less due to CIT.

If one can aim the left edge of the CB at the right edge of the OB it follows that he would make a 90 degree cut.

So all of the cut angles can be derived by aiming the edge of the CB at memorized facets using HAMB across the face of the OB from edge to edge.

But, we all know that.:wink:

Be well.

Well E,

I think we all know that... & would hope that very many if not all know that the shots in between are subjective based on one's individual file bank built over time.

Stay Well & Best Wishes.
 
If one can aim the edge of the CB like left edge of the CB to the left edge of the OB and shoot center CB parallel to that line, he would make a straight in shot.

If one can aim the edge of the CB like left edge of the CB to the center of the OB and shoot center CB parallel to that line, he would make a 30 degree cut shot or a bit less due to CIT.

If one can aim the left edge of the CB at the right edge of the OB it follows that he would make a 90 degree cut.

So all of the cut angles can be derived by aiming the edge of the CB at memorized facets using HAMB across the face of the OB from edge to edge.

But, we all know that.:wink:



Be well.

LAMas.. I almost never aim with the edge of the CB. I usually aim with the center of the CB... on all cut shots under 30 degree angles.

If the cut shot is 1/16" right the OB center... I aim the CB center 1/8" right of the OB center. If the cut shot is 1/8" from the OB center, I aim
the center of the CB 1/4" from the OB center.

I do this on almost every shot less than 30 degrees. I aim with center CB, working from OB center to OB outside edge, depending on the
shot angle. Aim the CB beyond the cut shot angle. Aim twice the distance from OB center and OB cut line. (Double the distance aiming)

That's my version of CTE... or if infringing on someone else... my version of center to edge.. working from OB center toward the OB edge.

Using the CB center is useless if aiming the CB beyond the 30 degree outside edge of the OB. Then I'll work from either of the CB edges.

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I do this on almost every shot less than 30 degrees. ... (Double the distance aiming)
You may know this, but you can do the same thing for cuts over 30 degrees by measuring with the CB/OB edges instead of their centers.

Here's a pic I've posted before showing that.

pj
chgo

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You may know this, but you can do the same thing for cuts over 30 degrees by measuring with the CB/OB edges instead of their centers.

Here's a pic I've posted before showing that.

pj
chgo

pj... I do use the edges when needed. Of course CB side spin will change aim points.
Having these exact references also help in making those adjustments. Diagram...:thumbup2:
 
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