15 Ball (Rotation) or 9 and 10 Ball Changes Needed

Ok folks, somebody help me out. I'm a little confused. On this hand, we have people who want tougher games, tighter pockets, tables changed, rules toughened. On the other hand, we have people who want the pros to put together packages, DON'T want to see tricked up tables, and an attitude of"if you make the games harder, you can't draw the casual player." As everyone has an opinion, what is best for the sport? With the exception of one pocket, I can't think of any of the games I don't love to watch or play. I really believe that if we could get people to participate, they also would fall in love with the game. Just my opinion, but making the games harder does not impress me as the way to do it. Lets appreciate the skills the players have, and let each person play the games that challenge them.
 
Revert back to how 8 ball was originally played where the one ball and 9 ball had to be pocketed in a side pocket.

Rotation 8 ball.

Play last pocket 9 ball.

How about 1 pocket 8 ball and if that gets too easy make it one pocket 8 ball rotation where you have to pocket the balls in order.

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branpureza said:
Did it? Seemed like quite a few responses right after.



Also I think Justin assumed Mr. Bond was replying to him directly when he was just speaking in general terms.



I'm pretty sure Mr. Bond is well aware that he can't beat Justin Bergman at pool.
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Nice to know that you understand what Mr. Bond meant & speak for him so freely. Also it did get quiet, in relation to Mr.Bond, well until you so magnanimously stepped forward to interpret what was meant & speak for him. Whatever Dude.
 
Bank it said:
Nice to know that you understand what Mr. Bond meant & speak for him so freely. Also it did get quiet, in relation to Mr.Bond, well until you so magnanimously stepped forward to interpret what was meant & speak for him. Whatever Dude.
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Aw don't get butt hurt about it man. Calm down.
 
There is only 1 person posting in this thread that should be talking about harder games/tables and that is JB. Most of the rest of you cannot get out with ball in hand on the 5 ball.

I'd like to see at a minimum for the PROs 10' tables and really a 12' table with normal pokets (4.25 - 4.5) would be AWESOME!!!
Jason
 
jasonlaus said:
There is only 1 person posting in this thread that should be talking about harder games/tables and that is JB. Most of the rest of you cannot get out with ball in hand on the 5 ball.

I'd like to see at a minimum for the PROs 10' tables and really a 12' table with normal pokets (4.25 - 4.5) would be AWESOME!!!
Jason
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So why are you then following it up with your table recommendations,,


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Justin Bergman said:
What do you mean by if you think it's easy come to Chicago? If I come to Chicago you will play me rotation? If so, when?
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Justin I was talking about the game "61" not being easy

If you wanna play some 61 come on up to Red Shooz and I'll relieve you of some of that pesky cash :cool:

I should have specified that some of us don't play it as a rotation game. Ever play " Chicago"?
 
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The games broke, everything is soooo easy, cloth is too fast/slow, balls are the wrong color, 9 on the spot, break box, blah, blah, blah. Play pool and quit crying.

If its so easy how did we get slaughtered at MC
Jason
 
I don't agree with your statement

jasonlaus said:
The games broke, everything is soooo easy, cloth is too fast/slow, balls are the wrong color, 9 on the spot, break box, blah, blah, blah. Play pool and quit crying.

If its so easy how did we get slaughtered at MC
Jason
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I don't agree with your statement.
 
jasonlaus said:
The games broke, everything is soooo easy, cloth is too fast/slow, balls are the wrong color, 9 on the spot, break box, blah, blah, blah. Play pool and quit crying.

If its so easy how did we get slaughtered at MC
Jason
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Because it's "easier " for thier players , now that was easy




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TheBook said:
Revert back to how 8 ball was originally played where the one ball and 9 ball had to be pocketed in a side pocket.
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Well, actually, when 8 ball was introduced by Brunswick around 1925, it was played with reds and yellows and a black and there were no numbers. The 8-ball version that specifies balls in the side pockets is "one and fifteen" and my experience in playing it doesn't lead me to believe that it would be an improvement for the top players.

The problem with 8 ball at the top level as I see it is that there are too many run-outs. The breaker runs out or his opponent runs out from his first shot. 21-ball (ten reds, ten yellows and a black) might be interesting.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Well, actually, when 8 ball was introduced by Brunswick around 1925, it was played with reds and yellows and a black and there were no numbers. The 8-ball version that specifies balls in the side pockets is "one and fifteen" and my experience in playing it doesn't lead me to believe that it would be an improvement for the top players.

The problem with 8 ball at the top level as I see it is that there are too many run-outs. The breaker runs out or his opponent runs out from his first shot. 21-ball (ten reds, ten yellows and a black) might be interesting.
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I had an idea for a version of 8 ball where each player is designated a pocket at random AFTER the break.

Each player must make all of their balls in their designated pocket.
 
BeiberLvr said:
I had an idea for a version of 8 ball where each player is designated a pocket at random AFTER the break.

Each player must make all of their balls in their designated pocket.
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And if one gets a corner and one gets a side, one of them has a problem.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Well, actually, when 8 ball was introduced by Brunswick around 1925, it was played with reds and yellows and a black and there were no numbers. The 8-ball version that specifies balls in the side pockets is "one and fifteen" and my experience in playing it doesn't lead me to believe that it would be an improvement for the top players.

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Thanks for the history. I got my info from the rule book that came with a table back in 60's but never seen anyone play it that way and I think it was because of the coin op.

Don't they use red and yellow ball sets it England for 8 ball?

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