Me neither but its cool to watch somebody who has it down.I hate the slip stroke.
One of the big reasons I only use wrapless cues is because they DON'T slip even if I use a loose grip.
Me neither but its cool to watch somebody who has it down.I hate the slip stroke.
One of the big reasons I only use wrapless cues is because they DON'T slip even if I use a loose grip.
Best as I can explain it, while in your stance and holding the cue at about mid wrap or even up closer toward the shaft, on your last pause at the cue ball, you very loosely slide or slip your butt hand backward toward the end of your stick while not moving your stick backward.
In other words the cue tip stays at the CB while your hand slides backward to the end of the butt, then regains a slightly tighter grip on the cue and on your forward stroke you go through the cue ball. :scratchhead:
I read it and I don't know if I explained it well. :shrug:
Here's a video of Mosconi done in 1980. As you watch it you will be able to pick up his slip stroke, even hear his hand sliding on the linen as he slips back on the grip. At 3:20, even though this camera angle is from his backside, you can see has hand slip back on the cue and you can definitely hear it slip over the linen wrap. At 4:40 is an overhead view where you can see this stroke and at 5:20 is a good view from the front side where you can clearly see his slip stroke as well as hear his hand slip back on the wrap of the cue:
http://vimeo.com/4957545
Great clip. Can clearly see(and hear),as you pointed out, the slipping-action. Saw Willie do a demo around this same time. He gets out of a cab, takes off his coat, racks 14 w/a break-ball and casually runs 100. Unreal.Not only can you see it, you can actually hear it too. lol
First let me say, that's a great clip -- I'd never seen it before. At certain points you can see the grace with which Willie played the game and if you can see that, and imagine him sustaining that for an hour, you'll get a feel for what it was like to watch him for a full exhibition match, circa late 1960's when I saw him. (I believe I read that he was part of a dance act in his very young days and maybe that is what is showing up.)
But in all honesty, I see little evidence of a no-kidding slip stroke. What I do see are minor adjustment, or at best a very tiny slip stroke for one or two shots. True slip stroke players used it on every shot, so I'm still sticking to my story: Willie Mosconi did not use a slip stroke.
Lou Figueroa
My best guess is that it was an alternative way to generate force in the stroke on the slower cloth, as opposed to the cloth we have today.
Keep guessing guys soon you will come up with the reason for it.
Best as I can explain it, while in your stance and holding the cue at about mid wrap or even up closer toward the shaft, on your last pause at the cue ball, you very loosely slide or slip your butt hand backward toward the end of your stick while not moving your stick backward.
In other words the cue tip stays at the CB while your hand slides backward to the end of the butt, then regains a slightly tighter grip on the cue and on your forward stroke you go through the cue ball. :scratchhead:
I read it and I don't know if I explained it well. :shrug:
https://youtu.be/sb6CKYqTC98?t=14Keep guessing guys soon you will come up with the reason for it.
https://youtu.be/sb6CKYqTC98?t=14
Or you can stop guessing and ask the man who once toured with Mosconi as his sparring partner. Also came from PA. And copied Mosconi's stroke.
This thread is over six years old but it does cause me to ask a question. Why was the slip stroke more popular among top players 50 years ago than today?
https://youtu.be/sb6CKYqTC98?t=14
Or you can stop guessing and ask the man who once toured with Mosconi as his sparring partner. Also came from PA. And copied Mosconi's stroke.
Though obviously a good player with a good straight stroke... Not a slip stroke.
Dale
He has. Here's a better shot.
https://youtu.be/sb6CKYqTC98?t=55
I've known him since 1994.
We've talked about his stroke.
He almost literally throws his cue when power drawing.
He has a slip stroke AND stroke slip.
Wayne patterned his stroke after Willie. That he told me himself.
Practice stroke with the forearm a little forward..
Slips it back in the final payoff stroke.
And on hard shots, lets the cue go.
Interestingly enough, he did not teach that stroke.
He's retired from playing now . But, he was running to the hundred in his 70's.
He played in the World Straight Pool Tournament at Stardust Hotel back in the days. Showed us his scrapbook .