Final from scott/dennis

The way I saw the match, Dennis won with some superb pocketing skills. But, I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the dozen skidding balls that Frost shot had gone in?
I noticed Scott hit the object balls with more speed than Dennis and on those shots even the commentators were saying the ball skidded.
Imagine a dozen times Scott would have continued his run, but instead Dennis was given a golden opportunity to score.
Not counting the 3 end rail banks that rolled in towards the middle of the table that Frost shot, I see a 12 game potential difference. 12 games Frost would have won. That would have set back Dennis's score 12 games to 28 and added Frost's to 40.
Many will probably disagree with me, but I still think Scott Frost is the better player.
 
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In some big matches I have watched Scott play, I have never heard Scott's opponents complain about skidding, roll outs, etc. I always hear Scott complaining. And secondly if there were adverse conditions at play because of equipment, they affect both players. Good players adjust.

And yes many will disagree with you that Scott is the better player.
 
I think that better players are better because they adjust better................among other things.

Keith
 
In some big matches I have watched Scott play, I have never heard Scott's opponents complain about skidding, roll outs, etc. I always hear Scott complaining. And secondly if there were adverse conditions at play because of equipment, they affect both players. Good players adjust.

And yes many will disagree with you that Scott is the better player.

Took the words out of my mouth. Part of the game is adjusting to the conditions re: balls, cloth, rails, pockets and table rolls. Some players do this better than others. The Filipinos have to be good at this as conditions vary widely from room to room and day to day.
 
The way I saw the match, Dennis won with some superb pocketing skills. But, I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the dozen skidding balls that Frost shot had gone in?
I noticed Scott hit the object balls with more speed than Dennis and on those shots even the commentators were saying the ball skidded.
Imagine a dozen times Scott would have continued his run, but instead Dennis was given a golden opportunity to score.
Not counting the 3 end rail banks that rolled in towards the middle of the table that Frost shot, I see a 12 game potential difference. 12 games Frost would have won. That would have set back Dennis's score 12 games to 28 and added Frost's to 40.
Many will probably disagree with me, but I still think Scott Frost is the better player.
Well if what you said is correct, don't you think Dennis would just sit and watch? Of course he will up his game. But because Scott is playing poorly then Dennis would just continue what he is doing.
 
The way I saw the match, Dennis won with some superb pocketing skills. But, I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the dozen skidding balls that Frost shot had gone in?
I noticed Scott hit the object balls with more speed than Dennis and on those shots even the commentators were saying the ball skidded.
Imagine a dozen times Scott would have continued his run, but instead Dennis was given a golden opportunity to score.
Not counting the 3 end rail banks that rolled in towards the middle of the table that Frost shot, I see a 12 game potential difference. 12 games Frost would have won. That would have set back Dennis's score 12 games to 28 and added Frost's to 40.
Many will probably disagree with me, but I still think Scott Frost is the better player.

Dennis has a better cue ball control.
He pockets better.
He banks much better. How many times did he win a 7-7 game with a bank after a safety battle? 3 to 4 rails even. Banks Scott probably did not even know was possible.
How many times was Scott going to run-out only to be off shape on the next ball? Happened a lot.
As far as the skids, I think it had to more with Scott's stroke or how he hits the cue ball. I think he drags the cue ball too much.
Dennis has that short punch stroke.
That being said, that set of balls are infamous for skids. The measle cue ball also plays heavy. They follow easily but is tougher to draw.
 
Took the words out of my mouth. Part of the game is adjusting to the conditions re: balls, cloth, rails, pockets and table rolls. Some players do this better than others. The Filipinos have to be good at this as conditions vary widely from room to room and day to day.
Scott should try playing one-pocket in a room with roosters up in the rafters. :eek::D

Btw, the table played slower after the first night.
And that was when Dennis took over.
 
The way I saw the match, Dennis won with some superb pocketing skills. But, I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the dozen skidding balls that Frost shot had gone in?
I noticed Scott hit the object balls with more speed than Dennis and on those shots even the commentators were saying the ball skidded.
Imagine a dozen times Scott would have continued his run, but instead Dennis was given a golden opportunity to score.
Not counting the 3 end rail banks that rolled in towards the middle of the table that Frost shot, I see a 12 game potential difference. 12 games Frost would have won. That would have set back Dennis's score 12 games to 28 and added Frost's to 40.
Many will probably disagree with me, but I still think Scott Frost is the better player.

Sorry but that is what a race to 40 is all about. If you think after that many games the issue is with the equipment or conditions then that is flat out wrong. If Scott as having issues then he needs to adjust for them.

If the race was shorter then maybe you have a case, but it was 4 days and 40 games, and he lost by 11. That is a pretty big gap.
 
Sorry but that is what a race to 40 is all about. If you think after that many games the issue is with the equipment or conditions then that is flat out wrong. If Scott as having issues then he needs to adjust for them.

If the race was shorter then maybe you have a case, but it was 4 days and 40 games, and he lost by 11. That is a pretty big gap.

*69 games
Jason
 
I agree with most.

Scott had PLENTY of opportunity to win, Dennis missed some shots and Scott didnt take advantage. Scott missed too, and Dennis took advantage, but that wasnt the reason he won.

Dennis shot alot of shots that I thought were the wrong shot, but when he made it, he seems like a genius.

Secondly, I heard some comments that Dennis shot like Efren. He did not. Efren locks people up with cueball control, Dennis made some incredible shots, that Efren would have NEVER attempted because they were the wrong shot.

Commentary on the last night was the best of all the nights, BTW. I dont know who the hell they were, but they did a fine job on the last night.

Ken
 
What I saw was an A$$ kicking of the highest order. I don't care what the equipment is, Dennis is the better player of these two, period. I also don't think that Dennis took the "wrong" shot often. He looked like a genius because he played the shot that was right for someone with his skill set, namely uncanny ball pocketing skills and tight cue ball control.

They play again, I pick Dennis...again. In fact, I'm not so sure that Alex has to like playing Dennis onehole right now...
 
Hesitate to comment but.... here goes. Neither player played to his maximum ability. Way too many errors on both sides. Got sick of the stream commentators excusing Scott's errors. The missed shots. Missed opportunities. It was the rails, the cloth, the balls, the cue ball, the humidity, his temperment ad nausium. Scott was defeated by another great player playing more consistant pool. Period. JMHO.

Lyn
 
If Scott lost because he got all the bad rolls I'm sure Scott and his backers will put up another 100k and play another set.
 
If Scott lost because he got all the bad rolls I'm sure Scott and his backers will put up another 100k and play another set.

Maybe they can play at the Hard Times here instead.
And use Centennial balls on a Gold Crown table.
 
The way I saw the match, Dennis won with some superb pocketing skills. But, I wonder if the outcome would have been different if the dozen skidding balls that Frost shot had gone in?
I noticed Scott hit the object balls with more speed than Dennis and on those shots even the commentators were saying the ball skidded.
Imagine a dozen times Scott would have continued his run, but instead Dennis was given a golden opportunity to score.
Not counting the 3 end rail banks that rolled in towards the middle of the table that Frost shot, I see a 12 game potential difference. 12 games Frost would have won. That would have set back Dennis's score 12 games to 28 and added Frost's to 40.
Many will probably disagree with me, but I still think Scott Frost is the better player.

Im sure if any piece of the frost corporation agreed with you, dennis and his crew would politely oblige.
 
I got a feeling aramith cant be too happy about soonsoring the match when the commentators did nothing but bash how terrible the balls were.
 
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