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with elements from the world series of poker

$10,000 entry fee and $1,000,000 winner takes all

featuring the thing that makes for action
matching up

it doesn't matter who the best player is,its how you match up with your fellow players

where else will you ever get a chance to win a $1,000,000

featuring some smaller action satellite games locally so you can take $1000
and win your invitation to the show

win your local qualifier
and proceed to the show

only one winner,but wow

you think I can get 100 players with $10,000

it happens with poker,it happens with slot machines

but are pool players willing to actually match up

the best player may or may not win,but the best gambler might
or some lucky stiff might make it big

how many of you guys would enter a state qualifier to win your entry fee
with the shot,not the guarantee of winning a cool million?

don't bother to read or reply if you don't have the gamble

this is not to promote the existing tour,
truth be told I could care less about those prima donnas

you pay your own expenses and you takes your shot

any interest?
 
deanoc said:
any interest?
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First, It's Johnston City, not Johson City. It's in Illinois.

Then, there is some evidence, below. Also, you'd better be able to know some names. You'd better be able to know Luther Lassiter, and a lesser named Keith. It's a contest for you to know Keith's last name.

Study those tables. For those times, they were incredible tight pockets. And get this, white pockets. Some years, they were Brunswicks, other years, they were Gandys. Some of you would have caught that.

All the best,
WW
 

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deanoc said:
with elements from the world series of poker

$10,000 entry fee and $1,000,000 winner takes all

featuring the thing that makes for action
matching up

it doesn't matter who the best player is,its how you match up with your fellow players

where else will you ever get a chance to win a $1,000,000

featuring some smaller action satellite games locally so you can take $1000
and win your invitation to the show

win your local qualifier
and proceed to the show

only one winner,but wow

you think I can get 100 players with $10,000

it happens with poker,it happens with slot machines

but are pool players willing to actually match up

the best player may or may not win,but the best gambler might
or some lucky stiff might make it big

how many of you guys would enter a state qualifier to win your entry fee
with the shot,not the guarantee of winning a cool million?

don't bother to read or reply if you don't have the gamble

this is not to promote the existing tour,
truth be told I could care less about those prima donnas

you pay your own expenses and you takes your shot

any interest?
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Dean -- Your idea is different from Allen Hopkins' idea back in 2008, but I thought you should know about his idea in case you don't.

Allen set out to hold an annual Million Dollar Shootout. The entry fee was $5,000. He hoped to attract the world's best as well as "average" players, who might win their way in through satellite events, qualifiers, or (a later thought) even a Million Dollar Pool League to fund entrants into the Shootout. He had in mind what was going on with poker.

They ended up with 12 entrants. It was a nice little tournament, and the winner (Corey Deuel) got $20,000. No subsequent events have been held.
 
deanoc said:
... But are pool players willing to actually match up? ...
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If they can get a lock, sure. Your event will have to find some way to force players to match up. Maybe a $100/hour ante that's forfeited if they don't get into a match in four hours.

But unless there is added money I'll bet against finding more than 10 players for the event. Add a million and you might fill the field, providing you have a challenge structure set up.
 
i think there are several poker players
who are not so afraid of gambling

if not
perhaps i am out of touch with the pool community
 
Marty Kaman Omaha Fats always talked about Johnson City.
That was back in the sixties, and it sounds like there was a ton of action
Marty used to play us one handed for fifty cents a game
 
With Winner Take All, the odds aren't 100 to 1... it's waaaaaaay worse then that for a lot of these players if certain others enter. You get a lot of the lesser caliber players in other tournaments like the US Open because there is a tiered prize structure and they have a chance to win something.

What would the format be? Let's say 9ball or 10ball... Let's say you make it a longer tournament style race like the Open going to 11. Let's also say you make it double elimination. You are NOT gonna get many players willing to pony up 10k on 2 races to 11 or anything even remotely similar to that, not to mention having to win/play 7 or more matches to only get paid for coming in first.

And don't think the final 2 won't put on a show and just chop it up.
 
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the players are not playing even
they will match up

each game should be pretty even
this format is for gamblers not just great players

we can see some poker players with dippy size spots
putting great players out and vice versa

imagine a bunch of gamblers each with 10,000
walking into a room where everybody had the same amount to start

it continues until only 1 guy has it all

if that doesn't excite you
forget this one and take up bowling

this is not for the pros or the leagues players

you can even bet on the side with each other

there will be a penalty for not getting in action to speed things up

most games short races to reduce nut hugging

in a race to 3 anybody can win

the guys with 10,000 don't need advice
if they have the money
they know how to bet it
 
deanoc said:
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the players are not playing even
they will match up

each game should be pretty even
this format is for gamblers not just great players

we can see some poker players with dippy size spots
putting great players out and vice versa

imagine a bunch of gamblers each with 10,000
walking into a room where everybody had the same amount to start

it continues until only 1 guy has it all

if that doesn't excite you
forget this one and take up bowling

this is not for the pros or the leagues players

you can even bet on the side with each other

there will be a penalty for not getting in action to speed things up

most games short races to reduce nut hugging

in a race to 3 anybody can win

the guys with 10,000 don't need advice
if they have the money
they know how to bet it
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Sure the idea excites me... much like eating chocolate cake off of a playboy model does... but also much like that it will never happen.

So everyone has to keep matching up? Do they have to bet the 10k everytime? Let's say Johnny Betthemhigh wins his first match and he now has 20k, does he have to bet the 20k on his next match or did he just win a second barrel thanks to his first match?

...and if it's not for the pros or the league players, then who is it for? A bunch of random millionaires and poker players? Why the hell would I want to watch a bunch of non-pool players play pool?

I mean, you are gonna need some type of structure to the event. How do you ideally see this going down?

I don't know, it would be cool and pool history, but if Hopkins couldn't come close at 5k then how is anyone else gonna do it at 10k?
 
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Take "Texas Hold'em" out of the poker world, what would it be today, poker?

What's this shooting pool game going to be?
 
Dan_B said:
Take "Texas Hold'em" out of the poker world, what would it be today, poker?

What's this shooting pool game going to be?


Yes, the only reason there are card tournaments is because everyone thinks they are a hold em expert.
of course there is still some skill involved but that 7th card means that luck overcomes skill all day long.
Go back to 5 or 6 card stud and there will be less than 50 people in a tournament once all the suckers that think they can play, and actually are just card magnets, go broke.
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I think it is a great idea, especially if some can get there via a 1000.00 satellite, of course you will have to have a way to stop collusion also.
That will be the first thought, any real hustler gets, when they read this post.
Even if you get all the contestants from satelites , it doesn't matter as long as the million is there.
One way to make the match ups, might be to place the possible match ups on az billiards and have the members vote on the spot.
Or a panel elected by the members of the most knowledgeable {honest?} game makers from here to figure out a fair game.
They would propose a game between 2 players and they either play, or forfeit x amount of money for not playing!
The hard one would be unknowns, like poker players who also played pool, there are probably some really good lemon players out there, that almost no one knows their true skill level , so you would have to have a way to adjust a players skill factor during the tournament based on performance.
Actually , lets just assume that if this happens , everybody in it will be a lemon player, so that negates having to figure them out at all, {run what you brung!}
I'm thinking I would play a sattelite, and I am probably the worst player on here.
I'm old and crippled, and can't remember if I look at the object ball, or the cue ball last, half the time.
I hope you can pull this off, it sounds like a lot of fun.
 
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Too bad there is no rating system that has used data from thousands of matches of thousands of players.

That would really be something.
 
Okay let's get this straight

Everyone is there and player A says to player B, " you got 9 to 7, get your
no playing ass up here". Say player A wins, B is out of the tournament,
player A is in. Now does player A wait for all other players to match up
and play. That would be 49 matches if there are 100 players, right ?.
What if Shane is there and offers Whoppi the last two. She doesn't want
it. So who is not matching up, and who decides they are not matching up ?
I don't understand, but I am very easily confused. Now for the good news.
I like this idea, and with it being my old buddy Deanoc's deal. I am giving
him first option at staking me. What I don't understand can be explained
to me later, or not at all, it doesn't matter. I will win it, I promise. Have I
ever let you down before. But in the unlikely event I don't win it will a great
learning experience for both of us.
jack
 
jackpot said:
Everyone is there and player A says to player B, " you got 9 to 7, get your
no playing ass up here". Say player A wins, B is out of the tournament,
player A is in. Now does player A wait for all other players to match up
and play. That would be 49 matches if there are 100 players, right ?.
What if Shane is there and offers Whoppi the last two. She doesn't want
it. So who is not matching up, and who decides they are not matching up ?
I don't understand, but I am very easily confused. Now for the good news.
I like this idea, and with it being my old buddy Deanoc's deal. I am giving
him first option at staking me. What I don't understand can be explained
to me later, or not at all, it doesn't matter. I will win it, I promise. Have I
ever let you down before. But in the unlikely event I don't win it will a great
learning experience for both of us.
jack
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You know what? I like how you think and I am gonna let dean stake me too..

Fuggit, I am in.
 
Just updating head count,
from what I can tell,
so far,
there are;
1 with the idea, with no pictures, illustrations or video

1 anticipated, expected stake-horse, gambler

3 players

8 that will be posting on Azb in the “All In Classic Tournament” thread, wanting
updates, giving color, advice and opinions on the reports coming in with many
planning red-eye road trip travel plans to catch the finals.

Having some sort of open floor broker/exchange, like a commodities exchange would
be a game in itself, matching up player "puts" bids under a clock NFL draft style.

I still think with the limited fan base using the elimination format kills the grand finale effect, excitement.

There is a way to do this though...
 
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