Me and Earl are working on 14" leg extensions, so we'll never have to use a bridge, but will still have one foot on the floor.
Novel use of bridge or rules violation?
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Prob be easier to just get a 3rd foot. Drop it like its hot.
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Another way of using the bridge... http://youtube.com/watch?v=iHffyitzQfA
Ronato Alcano uses his shoulder.
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Another way of using the bridge... http://youtube.com/watch?v=iHffyitzQfA
Ronato Alcano uses his shoulder.
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That is illegal use of equipment as well. I am posting 1.3 of WPA rules as a whole to avoid any misunderstanding:
1.3 Player’s Use of Equipment
The equipment must meet existing WPA equipment specifications. In general, players are not
permitted to introduce novel equipment into the game. The following uses, among others, are
considered normal. If the player is uncertain about a particular use of equipment, he should
discuss it with the tournament management prior to the start of play. The equipment must be
used only for the purpose or in the manner that the equipment was intended. (See 6.17
Unsportsmanlike Conduct.)
(a) Cue Stick – The player is permitted to switch between cue sticks during the match, such as
break, jump and normal cues. He may use either a built-in extender or an add-on extender to
increase the length of the stick.
(b) Chalk – The player may apply chalk to his tip to prevent miscues, and may use his own
chalk, provided its color is compatible with the cloth.
(c) Mechanical Bridges – The player may use up to two mechanical bridges to support the cue
stick during the shot. The configuration of the bridges is up to the player. He may use his own
bridge if it is similar to standard bridges.
(d) Gloves – The player may use gloves to improve the grip and/or bridge hand function.
(e) Powder – A player is allowed to use powder in a reasonable amount as determined by the
referee.
While innovative I would think it illegal based on a plain text interpretation of the World Standardized Rules. That being said almost no event, league, etc plays with anything resembling standardized rules so I guess it's whatevs until someone calls you on it then it's up to the local tournament director. I would think it would be definitely illegal under the CSI rules that someone posted.
Perfectly legal, he used the bridge to support the cue during the shot
But it could be argued that he used the bridge to support his body and therefore his arm and therefore his hand. Inadvertently but never ye mind.
Not exactly, it was the opposite - his body supported the bridge which is not violation of any rule :wink: But good try :grin:
Not trying. The bridge leaning on him and being held by one hand gives his body support if his body is leaning into it. Try it out yourself and remove your hand and the bridge and see if your body stays in that position.
EPBF=WPA - same rules
Read my post again, I dont see why I should write again what I just wrote. Or maybe you should work on your text comprehension skills..
Marek, Your curt response has been noted. Thank you for the clarification.
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Kyren Wilson did that in snooker match some time ago as well. No foul called. Barry Stark (snooker coach) had a video clip on this as well.
Should be legal, IMO.
https://theoldgreenbaize.com/2017/0...use-of-the-spider-gets-snooker-world-talking/
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Should be legal, IMO.
https://theoldgreenbaize.com/2017/0...use-of-the-spider-gets-snooker-world-talking/
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Again, even though it was allowed, it is not legal. A bridge is used to extend your hand, not to support it. Thus equipment was not used as intended, and a foul. Or at least should have been told you can't do that.
If this is OK, how about stacking chalk under your hand? Or grabbing a ball out of a pocket and using that for hand support? Or your case?
It's not legal use of the bridge, there is no argument that will make it so since showing that someone did use it and was allowed to just shows that the rules were not understood or followed. It's like allowing bank robberies because people have robbed banks before and were not caught.
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The BCAPL rules strictly forbids this.
BCAPL RULE 1-3.1
You may not use equipment or accessory items in a manner other than their intended use.
BCAPL RULE 1-3.1.e
You may not shoot while using any item to support or elevate your bridge hand.
There is no doubt that elevating your bridge hand in this manner is a foul. One might argue that if a player rested their cue on a bridge's shaft that it would be legal. It is a bridge after all, and a bridge is designed to elevate the cue. However, just as it is illegal to shoot a ball with the butt of your cue (yes it is), it is illegal to use a bridge to support a cue with any part of the bridge other than the head.
A different analogy would be going 5 MPH over on the freeway. Is it unlawful? Yes. Will you get called on it if observed by an official? Maybe, maybe not.
A glove elevates a player's bridge hand.
If the official was following the law, then yes you would. Rules of a game are not flexible. You don't get a pass if you scratch if you have nice boobs and smile at the ref.
That’s a far saner analogy.
You may be taking this a bit too seriously. Rules of a game have just as much flexibility as the rules of the road. None. Doesn’t mean you don’t get away with one every now and then.
Getting away with something does not mean the same thing as it being OK. Just because you got away with it, does not mean what you did was right.
So if you use a bridge like this, and get away with it, the only thing that happened was that someone let you get away with a foul or illegal shot. It does not make what you did legal by the rules.
The point is that even if people have seen this type of thing being done, is not a precedent that it is OK to do.
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Pretty sure everyone understands that. My point is that while it’s illegal, it’s not a big deal. Based on the wording in the OP, I could put together a decent argument for it being within the rules. I’d never call my opponent for that. What’s your opinion on the point made a few posts back about a glove elevating a bridge hand?