Try this again, my PLANS for straightening out Professional Pool.the
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No matter where you're at, it's 5 o'clock somewhere:thumbup:
If i fail, it won't be because i failed to try, or because i screwed up the success of this program by robbing it blind like it has been done before. But if i do happen to fail, I'll retire to fishing and live off my glue sales because no matter what, the glue is going to sell. At a 100 gallons a week, i can live very comfortable for the rest of my life, but i need to sell a 1,000 gallons a week to support the birth of this endeavor, and the world already uses way more glue than that in this industry world wide.
All Pro events will always be played on 9ft tables period. And the reason I've stated before about the MC and our seemingly inability to win is in my opinion based on the fact that pool players that mainly love to gamble have a different starting warm up than the Elite tournament Players do, as they're at focusing on the short race to win, whereas the gambler is still waiting to warm up. In track, it's the runner that is the fastest out of the starting block that for the most part that wins all the races.
How many pool rooms in America can support a pro event? That's just tables. I imagine most can't support much room for fans. Probably cuts a lot of cost in renting a hall and tables. Does anyone know the logistics of every pool hall in America? How would someone sell holding a tournament to a room owner? I mean pros can play on any table right? Doesn't have to have to be Diamonds with new cloth and balls. Save a lot of money. Or find someone that would provide free tables for free advertisement.
WTG Glen
I like the way you are thinking.
I don't see any major flaw in your pro-pool-plan.I love the idea for a massive pool cathedral/event center.I think a lot can be done for pro pool but also the amateur game can and I think should become the worlds game.If a table can be perfectly standardized (with a test system to insure it meets specs) then a computer program can be created to project an exact table layout anywhere in the world.
Going back to the coin-op table,I played at one of the casinos with the 9ft coin-ops and at one in Federal Way with 7' Diamonds.One prob with this is the room owner ends up removing the balls from the table to prevent theft.Another is that the Diamond Smart Table can be hard for the bar manager/staff to maintain(stuck balls,light,wrong cue ball,spots on the balls...)I think the smart table was genius but would like to see a lower cost 7-footer that plays like the smart table and has a gravity ball return or drop pockets.
Keep up the good work dude,I wish you luck.
I like the way you are thinking.
I don't see any major flaw in your pro-pool-plan.I love the idea for a massive pool cathedral/event center.I think a lot can be done for pro pool but also the amateur game can and I think should become the worlds game.If a table can be perfectly standardized (with a test system to insure it meets specs) then a computer program can be created to project an exact table layout anywhere in the world.
Going back to the coin-op table,I played at one of the casinos with the 9ft coin-ops and at one in Federal Way with 7' Diamonds.One prob with this is the room owner ends up removing the balls from the table to prevent theft.Another is that the Diamond Smart Table can be hard for the bar manager/staff to maintain(stuck balls,light,wrong cue ball,spots on the balls...)I think the smart table was genius but would like to see a lower cost 7-footer that plays like the smart table and has a gravity ball return or drop pockets.
Keep up the good work dude,I wish you luck.
There is no way to run a world class tournament in a pool hall anywhere for the simple fact that they're just not set up for it. The MAIN purpose of having one single event center is to build a working, refined, perfected stage for broadcasts live to the world through the internet on Pay-per-view. It's kind of like boxing i guess, though boxing events can be set up anywhere, there's no place like Madison Square Gardens to host a boxing match. But, pool rooms around the world DO have an important role to play, and that role is to host match up event's between all the other top listed PROS as they compete against each other for the right to be the number 1 contender and the chance to take on the reining world champion! And I'll explain how that works and how a REAL Pro Tour can take place.
You want a Pro Tour?.....YOU WANT A REAL PRO TOUR? Ok, then I'll explain just EXACTLY how you get a Pro Tour out of Quarterly event play offs, as they have nothing to xo with a Pro Tour, their purpose is to create a number 1 contender to challenge the reining world champion cor his title, AND to enforce skill level testing for entry into the Pro Ranks.
Ok, you ready??? First of all, there's only 12 weeks in a quarter, and I'm only using 1 of those weeks to broadcast my quarterly playoff event on PPV, and that's only to decide who the number 1 contender is, Soooo, I'm only paying the Pro's once every 3 months, right? Well, how about if some of these pool rooms around the country realized if they wanted to host a Pro Tour stop at their pool room on the second week of the next quarterly, in other words 2 weeks after my quarterly was finished. And lets say the pool rooms were all willing to get into a bidding war with any OTHER pool room wanting the event in their location, then another pool room got in on the action as well, at least THREE MONTHS IN ADVANCE OF THE TOURNAMENT WEEKEND THEY WERE BIDDING ON TO HOST so that within 2 weeks the top 16 Pro's would be in action again,.....only, wait for it.....wait....wait...ok, here it is, i don't care what 8 tables its being played on, i don't care what the pocket size is, all i care about is that ALL 8 ARE MATCHING tables, i don't even care if they're bar tables, BUT what i do care about is the rules, and that the top 16 are getting paid!!! And to make it a little more interesting, JOE PUBLIC will be able to buy an entry fee into the Pro Tour stop so there will be 16 players tickets sold by way of raffel, that's right...bid on a ticket to see if as a non Pro player, you'll be able to buy your way into the Pro Tour stop, at a minimum price of $100. All buy in players will be seeded against 1 of the 16 Pros in their first match, the rest is up to them as to how far they get. Now to fund the Pro's in this event, based on the PPV numbers my program would add up to $1,000 per Pro player. If one of the top 16 Pro's is unable to attend this event, then his spot will be offered to the next highest scoring player on the list, ranked nbr 17, and so on down the list. So, the tournament prize money will be the total of the 16 invited players entry fees, the Pro player added money, and the money the money the pool room owner bid to buy the location Oro Tour stop. Player pay out will be 1/3 of the prize fund for 1st, 1/6th for 2nd place, 1/6th split for 3-4, 1/6th split for 5-8 and the final 1/6th to 9-16 equally, so as an example the players pot was $30,000, take that and divide that by 6 and you get a total of $5,000 a round for player pay, 16-9 pays $625 per player, 8-5 pays $1,250 per player, 4-3 pays $2,500 per player, 2nd pays $2,500 and 1st pays double, $5,000. Then, the next Pro Tour stop is 12 weeks away and where ever the bid was won. And 32-17 is not paid. And all players must have a skill level test on file to be eligible to bid on, or buy an entry into the Pro Tour stops.
Seems like I heard Greg Sullivan in a recent interview saying that he thinks all the pro tournaments will eventually be played on 10-foot tables?
And for the Pro Tour stop, I'll have the list of the top 200+ Pro's in the world, so making sure there's always 16 Pros in the tour stop won't be an issue.
Would there be a fund for travel and lodging???
Could or would there be a travel fund for these 16 players?
Jaden
Could or would there be a travel fund for these 16 players?
Jaden
That's why they have sponsors.
I'm up in the air about that, would be a better thought after the PPV has been in use for a little while, otherwise if a Pro don't want to travel, there'll more than likely be a Pro somewhere arounf the Tour that could step up and play.
20 or 25 years ago MMA was held in low regard and most people did not seem to want it.
Now, even little old ladies watch it.
I wish you all the success in the world
I think a lot of people would watch PPV matches and instructionals between men and women, maybe even juniors.
If history repeats itself, your biggest challenge will be from the players themselves.
They will never be content to watch the thing grow without trying to manipulate it, realistically, that's what they do best.
Now, even little old ladies watch it.
I wish you all the success in the world
I think a lot of people would watch PPV matches and instructionals between men and women, maybe even juniors.
If history repeats itself, your biggest challenge will be from the players themselves.
They will never be content to watch the thing grow without trying to manipulate it, realistically, that's what they do best.
IMO the future success of professional pool might just be centered around events that feature men and women competing against each other. Unlike other sports, that would be possible with pool and create more interest in the competition. If I were to be able to start a tour, I might opt for the top sixteen women against sixteen top male players. The first round matches would all be men vs. women. I know that in the beginning the men would dominate, although I'm sure there would be some upsets. When the day came that women were reaching the final four, the excitement level would heat up. Who would be the first women to win one of these events? It would happen, of that I'm sure. Karen Corr has already has already won the very tough Joss Tour!
...not to mention the string of young talented Asian women players. I think that's a great idea, and might even strengthen the model for tour spot qualifiers all over the world! That's one thing that Trudeau had correct...have international qualifiers, as well as domestic. Go for it Glen! :grin:
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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