Diamonds "Blue" 7' are ping pong machines!

iusedtoberich

iusedtoberich

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I played about 15 hours in two states PA and NJ on 8 different Diamond 7' tables on Friday and Saturday. Some were Red, some were Blue.

THEY WERE ALL PING PONG MACHINES! I can't believe people like them! The red and blue were about the same to me.

Every other table in the world, from GC, to Olhausen, to Chinese GC knockoffs, to even freaking banger furniture tables, the ball reacts off the rail about the same. But the Diamond table is a freaking pin ball machine.

How this table became the standard is beyond me.

Unbelievable.

End rant.
 
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iusedtoberich said:
I played about 15 hours in two states PA and NJ on 8 different Diamond 7' tables on Friday and Saturday. Some were Red, some were Blue.

THEY WERE ALL PING PONG MACHINES! I can't believe people like them! The red and blue were about the same to me.

Every other table in the world, from GC, to Olhausen, to Chinese GC knockoffs, to even freaking banger furniture tables, the ball reacts off the rail about the same. But the Diamond table is a freaking pin ball machine.

How this table became the standard is beyond me.

Unbelievable.

End rant.
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Sounds like you had a rough weekend .
 
If it was your first time, they are incredibly springy it seems. Takes a little adjustment, and a lot of babying. It's been talked about on here a few million times I believe :thumbup:.
 
-ha ha, yes, I meant pinball. Brain fart.

-No, definitely not my first time on a Diamond. I probably only play on them a few hours per year, but have been for 20 years or more. The rest of the time is on Gold Crowns or random banger furniture tables. But, every single time I play on one I say the same thing to myself- Pinball machine!

-Yes, I'm aware of the million threads about this very topic, having participated in many of them. Since the experience was fresh in my mind, I felt obligated to start another of the same new thread:D:D:D

-My weekend was actually a ton of fun:)
 
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I play on Diamond big tables although there are a bunch of Diamond 7ftrs on the other side of the room. I am just getting used to the speed on the big track...I am a bit afraid of having to alter my game if I play on the small tables.
Glad you had fun playing!
 
My inhouse teams pls on valleys all year long and on e a year we have tri cups held at a venue with 7' diamonds. The first thing I tell all my players is hit half as as you think you need to. Yea those rail's are springy compared to any other table.
 
lorider said:
...snip...The first thing I tell all my players is hit half as as you think you need to. Yea those rail's are springy compared to any other table.
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This is the key "any other table".

Whether playing on a GC, a knockoff, a Valley, Olhaousen, Gandy, random furniture home table, they all bounce about the same. Its only Diamond tables that seem to bounce twice as much. Its ridiculous. Every other manufacturer is close, and Diamond is off in right field. How this became the standard is beyond me. How this was allowed by Diamond to leave the factory in the early days is beyond me. How this was accepted by pro-players is beyond me.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I played about 15 hours in two states PA and NJ on 8 different Diamond 7' tables on Friday and Saturday. Some were Red, some were Blue.



THEY WERE ALL PING PONG MACHINES! I can't believe people like them! The red and blue were about the same to me.



Every other table in the world, from GC, to Olhausen, to Chinese GC knockoffs, to even freaking banger furniture tables, the ball reacts off the rail about the same. But the Diamond table is a freaking pin ball machine.



How this table became the standard is beyond me.



Unbelievable.



End rant.
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Yeah I can’t stand their bar boxes either.....and my gripe has always been the rails. Like I need to use a super soft cue and stroke egh just perturbes me


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Do you think part of it is that the diamond 7 footers all have Simonis 860 and we are used to much slower cloth on the valleys? Not saying that the rails aren’t different, but I think that the faster cloth also contributes to the different feel. Unless, of course, you’ve been playing somewhere that puts Simonis on their Valleys.
 
I don't like Diamonds till they are worn in a bit. At the BCA/USAPL event in Vegas about half the tables were good with speed, half were too boingy. Seems some were newer than others, cloth wear was different on them. I would take a good GC over a Diamond, but for a 7 footer, it takes a very well setup Valley to match a Diamond and those are very rare.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I played about 15 hours in two states PA and NJ on 8 different Diamond 7' tables on Friday and Saturday. Some were Red, some were Blue.

THEY WERE ALL PING PONG MACHINES! I can't believe people like them! The red and blue were about the same to me.

Every other table in the world, from GC, to Olhausen, to Chinese GC knockoffs, to even freaking banger furniture tables, the ball reacts off the rail about the same. But the Diamond table is a freaking pin ball machine.

How this table became the standard is beyond me.

Unbelievable.

End rant.
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I always tell my opponent:

We are both playing on same table, with same balls, rack etc ... etc.

Sometimes, even with the same type cuestick and chalk.

Bottom line:

Best player wins no matter what if race is long enough.

Having said all that, it was an adjustment I had to make after a ~25 year vacation from pool.

Now I love them.

Rake
 
I played in yet a third room last night that had 3 Diamond bar boxes this time. 2 Reds, 1 Blue. It was in PA.

I first had a match on the Blue. Immediately, I noticed it played much better. Much less bounce in the rails than the BLUE from the prior night in NJ. My second match was on the Red in this room. This one was the same as the prior night pinball machine.

So now, I played on 10 Diamond BB in 2 states in the past 3 nights.

Room 1 in NJ had 7 BB (I played a tournament here, and played all night on every single table). 3 were red, 4 were blue. All seven played exactly the same to me and like a pinball machine.

Room 2 in PA had one red. It played like a pinball machine.

Room 3 in PA had 1 Blue, 2 Reds. The blue played way better than the blues in NJ. The one Red played like pinball machine. The second red I did not try.
 
mikemosconi said:
Agree- I do NOT like Diamonds - give me a GC any day of the week.
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I totally agree. When I bought my 9 foot table I had the choice of anything I wanted including a Diamond table. I chose to go with the Brunswick Gold Crown 4 as I liked the way it played so much better than the Diamond. Don't get me wrong the Diamond's are a very nice product but it just wasn't for me.

Kevin
 
iusedtoberich said:
I played in yet a third room last night that had 3 Diamond bar boxes this time. 2 Reds, 1 Blue. It was in PA.

I first had a match on the Blue. Immediately, I noticed it played much better. Much less bounce in the rails than the BLUE from the prior night in NJ. My second match was on the Red in this room. This one was the same as the prior night pinball machine.

So now, I played on 10 Diamond BB in 2 states in the past 3 nights.

Room 1 in NJ had 7 BB (I played a tournament here, and played all night on every single table). 3 were red, 4 were blue. All seven played exactly the same to me and like a pinball machine.

Room 2 in PA had one red. It played like a pinball machine.

Room 3 in PA had 1 Blue, 2 Reds. The blue played way better than the blues in NJ. The one Red played like pinball machine. The second red I did not try.
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Funny, it's been my experience that no 2 GCs play the same, as they all play different....maybe it has something to do with how each room cleans and takes care of their equipment! All tables can change in how they play from one location to the next, as well as who works on them! If you feel so strongly about Diamond putting out such a bad product, why don't you offer your services to them and design a better playing table, shouldn't be a problem for someone as knowledgeable as you are!
 
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