Define "Trapping" - Gambling Term

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I see this word "trapping" thrown around a lot and I'm wondering how you guys personally define it. Unless my definition is wrong, it seems to be getting used incorrectly a lot.

My definition of Trapping: Developing an elaborate plan to get someone to play in a game they can't win.

Example: Two unknown guys come into the pool hall (backer & player). The player makes a game with one of the locals. At the end of the session the backer offers to play and gets a spot because he doesn't look like he can play. To everyone's surprise, the backer is the best player in the room and ends up busting the local.
 
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Here's a trap I almost fell into:

Me: Hi, Jimmy. Do you know anyone who would like to play some nine ball?
Jimmy: Joe over there might like to play.
Me: Hi Joe, I'm Bob. Would you like to play some nine ball?
Joe: Nine ball is a young man's game. (He was really old, like maybe 50.) I'll try you some one pocket.
Me: No thanks, I don't know how to play that.

I thought that Jimmy was my friend. Joe was Joe Procita who held the high run record in tournament competition for about 60 years (182 on a 5x10 table).
 
I see this word "trapping" thrown around a lot and I'm wondering how you guys personally define it. Unless my definition is wrong, it seems to be getting used incorrectly a lot.

My definition of Trapping: Developing an elaborate plan to get someone to play in a game they can't win.

Example: Two unknown guys come into the pool hall (backer & player). The player makes a game with one of the locals. At the end of the session the backer offers to play and gets a spot because he doesn't look like he can play. To everyone's surprise, the backer is the best player in the room and ends up busting the local.

Close enough. The term is associated with animals getting caught in a trap. There's all kinds of "traps" in a poolroom (see some of the above posts), any of which can cost you money if you fall into them. They can take many forms and are all part of getting a "poolroom education," which can hold you in good stead later in life. I wasn't as smart as Bob Jewett and fell victim more than once in my formative years. :rolleyes:
 
Problem is, sometimes you run into a player willing to chew his own arm or leg off, and they still escape with the $$$ and sometimes the "bait $$$" too.
Jason
 
here's a trap i almost fell into:

Me: Hi, jimmy. Do you know anyone who would like to play some nine ball?
Jimmy: Joe over there might like to play.
Me: Hi joe, i'm bob. Would you like to play some nine ball?
Joe: Nine ball is a young man's game. (he was really old, like maybe 50.) i'll try you some one pocket.
Me: No thanks, i don't know how to play that.

I thought that jimmy was my friend. Joe was joe procita who held the high run record in tournament competition for about 60 years (182 on a 5x10 table).

wtf......... !
 
I see this word "trapping" thrown around a lot and I'm wondering how you guys personally define it. Unless my definition is wrong, it seems to be getting used incorrectly a lot.

My definition of Trapping: Developing an elaborate plan to get someone to play in a game they can't win.

Example: Two unknown guys come into the pool hall (backer & player). The player makes a game with one of the locals. At the end of the session the backer offers to play and gets a spot because he doesn't look like he can play. To everyone's surprise, the backer is the best player in the room and ends up busting the local.


Enticing another player to play a match they have absolutely no chance of winning.

Lou Figueroa
not all trappers
wear fur caps :-)
 
The one I didn't step into:

Musta been 20+ years ago at Chris's here in Chicago... I walk in, get a tray of balls and head for a table. Guy bunting 'em around on the table next to mine says "wanna play some cheap?". I politely declined, saying I was there to practice.

The guy (who probably didn't think I'd recognize him)? Cliff Joyner.

pj
chgo
 
The one I didn't step into:

Musta been 20+ years ago at Chris's here in Chicago... I walk in, get a tray of balls and head for a table. Guy bunting 'em around on the table next to mine says "wanna play some cheap?". I politely declined, saying I was there to practice.

The guy (who probably didn't think I'd recognize him)? Cliff Joyner.

pj
chgo

You didnt have to play Cliff for him to put the bite on you. :eek:
Jason
 
its called double steering when a friend steers you into a game he says is good but knows isnt and usually is getting a piece of what you lose.

it is the lowest form of treachery in the poolroom from a piece of crap. and worse than setting up a dump game to take off side action.
 
wasn't trapping but some folks sure thought so!

Some were accidentally trapped watching me banging balls playing my friends that played pool but weren't pool players. When the stranger stalled while raising the bet from a beer or three dollars a game to twenty or fifty before letting their own game out I didn't feel very bad about it. Didn't feel bad at all to be honest!

A stranger came into a bar I was in one day. My local watering hole, for better or worse strangers were my meat and none of the local players or beer drinkers were going to play a stranger until they saw how things went with me. The stranger wanted to hit some balls so we walked over to one of the two old valleys in the place.

He introduced himself with a front and back name and stuck out a hand. Kinda odd to use both names but I shook and said "Hu". Enough of a handle and all I used for many years. Even my rare tournaments I sign in as Hu. We started play, barbox eight ball. The first three games he cleared the traffic for me and then stalled mightily. I was getting pissed that he thought he had to suck me in and the fourth game I turned the tables. With two or three of his balls pretty much sitting in a hole and the eight ball the same I dogged my last ball while putting it carefully out the way after rattling the pocket. You could talk Ray Charles through this runout and he is dead and blind.

He bent over the first shot and I cut him a look that said, "OK jackass, let's see you get out of running this!" As I looked his way he looked up and intercepted the look. He ran the easy out, I racked and he bent over to break. Then he straightened up. He called me over. "I am a road player out of Vegas, my name is Danny Medina. Let's cut the crap and play pool!" We did, and the coins were going through the coin-op mechanism so fast it was starting to get hot! Danny was a warrior in those days and didn't have the stomach for a trap after he set it, maybe too he realized I didn't care.

Another guy came in pretending to be a salesman, complete with paperwork to sit at the bar and work on the first night. I noticed him watching my play a little too closely, he noticed I was aware and moved behind a screen. He could still see me and this went on for three nights before he decided he would pass and just talk a bit. Small bar, we had nodded and said hello a few times already. Always wondered if this was Tom Ferry but he hid his illness until the last minute when he had one foot in the grave and while we were on friendly internet terms it seemed classless and unimportant anyway to ask at that time. He introduced himself as Tom Ferriday, said he didn't play but watched pool all over the country. I didn't pay much attention to the name at the time since I didn't buy the second claim for a minute. Only later did I wonder who scouted me that carefully.

Hu
 
I see this word "trapping" thrown around a lot and I'm wondering how you guys personally define it. Unless my definition is wrong, it seems to be getting used incorrectly a lot.

My definition of Trapping: Developing an elaborate plan to get someone to play in a game they can't win.

Example: Two unknown guys come into the pool hall (backer & player). The player makes a game with one of the locals. At the end of the session the backer offers to play and gets a spot because he doesn't look like he can play. To everyone's surprise, the backer is the best player in the room and ends up busting the local.

Doesn't have to be an elaborate plan. Frequently it is just using a person's personality against him. The hardest part is you need to be a high level player with an excellent chance of winning for it to work. A "C" player can't just walk in off the street and trap anybody and most "A" players are known locally. Gambling addict with a bad temper - just a matter of time before he gets trapped.
 
Many guys trap themselves. If you're asking for a game in a new room, you can't really expect that you are going to get matched up with a weak player.

Only one time I was traveling and brought just my playing cue with me. I was challenged to play, but only for the table time. I won and the guy looked quite surprised actually. But I figured that anyone asking a stranger to play for anything in a pool room is probably at least an A player.

If you're not at least an A player in a new room, you have a really good chance of trapping yourself IMO.
 
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