Ditto................O.S.
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Ditto................O.S.
There were many sets that were 11-0 with Mr. 400 being one of the recipients. If I was tah guess, there were probably 4-5 sets than went that way. The bleeding was so bad that, yah had too walk away. Even in the DO/Neils match DO gave up/rolled over, don't see that very often (but they ALL have been down that road). Of all the games out there, this is the only one that I see the PUBLIC getting hooked on. Every day while there, I talked with this one security woman/Nancy who also worked at the airport/customs. She had NEVER watched pool before, but was totally intrigued and enjoyed the quietness and the sounds of our game. These are the people that will promote our game, not pool players wanting longer races, that's a proven dead ender.
A count shows about 25 11-0's, not 4 or 5.
Observant point of view....BUT....the Buddy Hall era thinking groomed many (that grew up/playing races to 11) into this principal.
The final race change/length ''mode/thinking'' is "PURE'' pool player/gambler/ego/winner gonna eat better, getting beat by a bad roll is not ''fair" to the player or the game.
An interesting point, and I say this having played MANY races to 11. When the total game score reaches 7, or 11 the game most always shifts. If it doesn't then your course is set. Ironically 7 and 11 are great dice numbers.
It's truly, the ONLY say that the players of the game of the past, ''have say''. in the moment. Winner breaks, 9 on the Briz wins and dbl elim. races to 11. That's a format that gets the best of em. The best Always rise up. Iranas ran an 8 pack, but unable to make to the final 16. Says something.....
Toasty/Souquet...... are the men to ''emulate''. All game, men that personify what a true pro pool player "is".
Points are well taken, Bill. Agreed about Hohmann and Souquet, two guys I'm proud to call friends. To nobody's surprise, both attended the US Open final to support their countryman.
We've been playing Races to Eleven in major 9-Ball tournaments for a million years. It's a good race, long enough to have some play to it and short enough to get done in less than two hours. The big change was going to Texas Express, where all balls stay down and you get BIH as opposed to spotting balls and shooting from behind the line. But hey, that's progress.
I happened to like all four semi-finalists. They were young, clean cut and dressed the part. None of them wasted any time getting down to business either. Four damn good pool players fighting for the title, just the way it should be. All good imo.
I happened to like all four semi-finalists. They were young, clean cut and dressed the part. None of them wasted any time getting down to business either. Four damn good pool players fighting for the title, just the way it should be. All good imo.
Cuttin' your teeth
That number is waaaay too much, it's telling me something else is in play. Sounds like allot of players wanted to mingle, had the money and took a vacation. In the Varner/Sigel/My days it was Maybe1-4 per event. I'm sure many wanted to be in the moment which is cool, and.... in the future this might not occur again, but NOW....it's still the Open.
That number is waaaay too much, it's telling me something else is in play. Sounds like allot of players wanted to mingle, had the money and took a vacation. In the Varner/Sigel/My days it was Maybe1-4 per event. I'm sure many wanted to be in the moment which is cool, and.... in the future this might not occur again, but NOW....it's still the Open.
Bill, several of these were forfeits. How many I'm not sure, but at least eight for the four missing players who were no shows at the Open.
Thx, I thought that number seemed waaaaaaay too high. Saying there were that many (25 11-0's) would of been ''felt'' in the room.
The forfeits (8) had "FF" on them. My count (about 25) excluded those.
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There was only one in the final sixteen, when Wu laid a bomb on Wang Can 11-0. Can did not make a single ball in the match for an Accu-Stats rating of .000! I cannot remember a tournament match (Race to Eleven) like this ever happening before. Definitely not in the final stages like this one was.
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In the 2001 US Open 9-ball final, if memory serves, it was Deuel 11 Immonen 0. Some say that this was this match that led to the banning of the soft break. Mika barely got to shoot.
I'm not a big Mika fan, but that match was hard for me to watch. I really felt bad for him and I do think that it was the final nail in the coffin for the soft break. Which is good, because it's boring as h... to watch. I admire Deuel for coming up with such a killer strategy, but as a spectator it kills the game. This years US open was way more exciting.
The forfeits were specially marked on the CueScore results page with FF. One forfeit by Alharbi may have been marked as 11-0 -- I believe he was a complete no-show. The other no shows were Baabad, Harper and Spalding. There was one separate forfeit by White (to Chohan, but see below). White played and lost his second match.
In the round of 256 there were 16 matches listed as 11-0, including Alharbi (that I think may have been a forfeit) and a surprising Warren Kiamko 11-0 loss. Warren beat his next opponent 11-1.
In the Winners Round 1 there were two 11-0 scores including John Schmidt's first loss. In the Losers Round 1 there were four 11-0s. There were two skunks in the Losers 3rd round -- John Schmidt and Tony Chohan. I wonder if there is story there.
There was one final skunk in the Quarter Finals when Wang Can did not make one ball.
That's a total of 25 11-0 scores according to CueScore in the whole tournament plus 8 forfeited matches.
The Wu/Wang zero was the only one after the Loser Round 3. The other 24 zeros were:
16 in Round 1
2 in Winner Round 1 (including Haitao d. Schmidt)
4 in Loser Round 1
2 in Loser Round 3 (Rizzi d. Chohan and Heuwagen d. Schmidt)
The Chohan and Schmidt zeros in Loser Round 3 are strange. Did they show up? They both played and won in Loser Round 2.
Right, but the only 11-0 whitewash I could think of in the really late stages of a major was that Deuel/Immonen final, one that set the game back in the eyes of many.
I would also question those last two. I see no way that score could actually happen if they showed up to play either of these guys.
Lol they were some serious money being bet abroad thru 3rd parties I know as a fact, not on these but who knows ,,,,,,,,...
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Wait, John Schmidt "played" 3 matches, and 2 of them he got blanked? And he just ran a million balls? Did he really show up to those matches? I bet on him, and now feel salty if he forfeited them.